NEIL: MIKE GLAD TO KNOW IF YOU
THE PRIOR SEGMENT TO HEAR WHAT
BEN STEIN WAS SAYING ABOUT ALL
OF THIS THAT WE MIGHT BE GETTING
THE SHORTER END OF THE STICK AND
WE SHOULDN'T BE MEETING WITH THE
NORTH KOREANS AND IT'S PROBABLY
A GOOD THING TO TALK BUT NOTHING
WILL BECOME OF IT IN THE NORTH
KOREANS PROFILE THAT IS BEING
RAISED AND NOT OUR OWN.
WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THAT?
>> I THINK THERE'S SOME TRUTH TO
THAT.
CLEARLY THIS IS A WIN-WIN FOR
KIM JONG-UN.
NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS AT THE
SUMMIT TODAY KIM JONG-UN COMES
OUT A WINNER.
NORTH KOREA'S AND INTERNATIONAL
ISOLATION.
HE HAS PICTURES OF HIM IN
PRESIDENT TRUMP APPEARING VERY
COMFORTABLE WITH EACH OTHER
SPLASHED ALL OVER THE WORLD
PRESS.
HE HAS GOTTEN TO SIT DOWN WITH
U.S. PRESIDENT THAT ALL NORTH
KOREAN LEADERS HAVE WANTED SO
THERE'S NO QUESTION THAT HE
LOOKS AS STATESMEN LIKE A LEADER
IS WE HAVE EVER SEEN OUT OF
NORTH KOREA.
ON THE OTHER HAND FROM THE TRUMP
ADMINISTRATION'S PERSPECTIVE
THEY ARE MAKING THE ARGUMENT
THAT THEY ARE THE ONES WHO HAVE
BROKEN THE IMPASSE OF GETTING
THE NORTH KOREANS TO SERIOUSLY
NOW SIT DOWN AND TALK.
AT THE VARIOUS HIGHEST LEVEL
ABOUT DENUCLEARIZATION.
THEY SAY IT'S DIFFERENT THAN WE
HAVE SEEN THE PASS AND THE POINT
THAT THEY HAVE WHICH IS THE
POINT I WOULD CONTINUE TO STRESS
IS YOU CAN'T GO BACK ON WHATEVER
AGREEMENT THEY MAKE WITH THE
NORTH KOREANS WITHOUT IT HAVING
DIRECTLY HAVING IT DIRECTLY
LINKED TO KIM JONG-UN.
THEY ARE SAYING THIS IS
DIFFERENT BECAUSE WE HAVE KIM AT
THE TABLE AND OF COURSE KIM
WALKS AWAY LOOKING LIKE A NORMAL
LEADER UNDER OTHER
CIRCUMSTANCES.
NEIL: OBVIOUSLY KIM JONG OWENS
THATCHER WOULD BE RAISED AND WE
ARE GETTING A LIVE IMAGE FROM
THE LUNCHEON.
LET'S LISTEN IN.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
NEIL: THAT WAS A LITTLE WHILE
AGO BUT THAT WAS COMING FROM HIS
LUNCHEON AND I RUDELY
INTERRUPTED YOU BUT IT LOOKS
LIKE A CONTINUOUS FRIENDLY TONE
WE WERE SEEING PRIOR.
YOU CHARACTERIZE IT FOR ME
BECAUSE IN ANY FORM WHEN THESE
TWO ARE TOGETHER IT'S OBVIOUSLY
THE LESSER-KNOWN NORTH KOREAN
LEADER WHOSE STATUS IS ELEVATED
IN THAT CAMP HE HELPED THAT WHAT
DO YOU MAKE OF THAT?
>> WELL I THINK WHAT IS MOST
SURPRISING TO ME NEIL IS YOU
HAVE WHAT SEEMS TO BE A VERY
COMFORTABLE PRESIDENT TRUMP IN A
VERY COMFORTABLE KIM JONG-UN
MEETING.
GIVEN THE FACT THAT THEY STAKES
OF THIS ARE PRETTY HIGH FOR BOTH
OF THEM, THIS WAS A RUSHED
MEETING.
THE FACT THAT THEY SEEM SO AT
EASE WITH EACH OTHER IS REALLY
REVEALS AS BOTH OF THEM ARE
CONFIDENT COMING INTO THIS
MEETING.
A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT THEY
QUESTION WHY THIS KIM JONG-UN TO
AGREE TO THIS MEETING ALL OF A
SUDDEN THE?
IS THE AFRAID THE MADMAN THEORY
WILL SUDDENLY GO TOO FAR AND HE
ACTUALLY ATTACKS AND THAT MAY
WELL BE BUT I THINK HE'S ALSO
CONFIDENT.
HE HAS THIS THING THAT HIS
FATHER AND GRANDFATHER NEVER HAD
TWITCHES HIS NUCLEAR CAPABILITY
TO STABILIZE THE NORTH KOREAN
ECONOMY.
HE'S GOTTEN RID OF POLITICAL
OPPOSITION OR POTENTIAL
POLITICAL OPPOSITION IS HALF
BROTHER AND UNCLE.
HE'S CONFIDENT COMING INTO THIS
AND YOU SEE IT IN THE BODY
LANGUAGE BETWEEN THE TWO.
WE HAVE A PICTURE RELEASED TO
THE TWO OF THEM UNDER THE
VERANDA.
I SUSPECTED THE TWO WOULD SHAKE
HANDS AND LOOK SERIOUS AND WALK
INTO THE ROOM AND THAT'S ABOUT
ALL WE GET.
INSTEAD YOU HAVE PICTURES THAT
MAKE IT LOOK AS THOUGH THIS IS
THEIR SECOND, THIRD OR FOURTH
MEETING AND AGAIN I THINK THIS
GOES TO THE IDEA THAT OATH OF
THEM FEEL CONFIDENT THEY ARE
COMING TO THE TABLE WITH THE
UPPER HAND.
THE QUESTION OF COURSE BECOMES
WHAT ARE THE BRASS TACKS WHEN
THEY GET DOWN TO THAT?
WHAT TYPE OF PROMISES WILL THEY
MAKE TO EACH OTHER AND WILL
THERE BE CONCESSIONS ON THE PART
OF KIM TO SHOW THAT HE IS REALLY
OPENING UP AND CAN BE TRUSTED IN
THE CASE OF DONALD TRUMP DOES HE
GET LOOPED INTO A PROCESS THAT