IT’S A BET HE MIGHT BE WILLING
TO TAKE.
PUTIN’S WORST NIGHTMARE COME TO
FRUITION.
NATO IS STILL HERE AND IT’S
MUSCLED UP AND MOTIVATED.
WHAT IS VLADIMIR PUTIN WORRIED
ABOUT?
WHAT WILL HE DO.
LET’S ASK FORMER SECRETARY OF
STATE MIKE POMPEO.
WHAT ABOUT THE NEW NEWS THAT’S
HAPPENED.
IT LOOKS LIKE COME JUNE SWEDEN
AND FINLAND WILL ASK FOR
ADMISSION.
SHOULD WE SAY WELCOME?
>> WE CERTAINLY SHOULD.
IT’S THE CASE VLADIMIR PUTIN CAN
SEE NATO IS REAL, IT’S SERIOUS.
IT DOESN’T PRESENT AN OFFENSIVE
THREAT TO HIM.
HIS CLAIM THAT IT PRESENTS RISK
TO THE RUSSIAN PEOPLE IS
SILLINESS.
SWEDEN PRESENTS NO RISK TO THE
RUSSIAN PEOPLE.
I THINK THEY CAN SEE BEING IN
THE MUSHY MIDDLE AS UKRAINE WAS
WHERE IT WASN’T CLEAR IF THE
GUARANTEES THAT WERE MADE IN THE
BUDAPEST MEMORANDUM, IF THEY
WOULD BE REAL OR NOT.
MY LAST THOUGHT IS, IT’S GREAT
TO SEE NATO WAKING UP.
I PRAY THESE EUROPEAN COUNTRIES
GET REAL RELIGION AND IT’S NOT
JUST FOR MOMENT.
THEY ARE COMMITTED TO SPENDING
2% OF THEIR GDP AND THAT’S NOT
ENOUGH.
GERMANS, FRANCE AND ALL THE
OTHERS NEED TO GET TO THEIR
COMMITMENTS AS WELL.
BRIAN: AND GET OFF RUSSIAN GAS.
DO YOU THINK THEY WILL HAVE A
DIFFERENT FOCUS AFTER THE
CARNAGE WE ARE SEEING AND WHAT
THE RUSSIANS ARE CAPABLE OF AND
NOT CAPABLE OF?
>> I HOPE SO.
THEIR POLITICAL LEADERS HAVE
FAILED THEM.
YOUR POINT ABOUT ENERGY IS
PRECISELY RIGHT.
WE WARNED THEM IN 2017 THAT
BUILDING THAT PIPELINE AND
DEPENDING ON RUSSIAN GAGS WOULD
COME BACK TO HAUNT THEM AND IT
HAS. I AM HOPING AFTER THIS MOMENT
I AM HOPING AFTER THIS MOMENT
PASSIONS THAT THEY WILL GO BACK
AND DECIDE IT’S NOT WORTH IT.
WE’LL COUNT ON AMERICA TO COME
IN.
THEY MADE PROMISES TO THEIR
FELLOW NATO MEMBER STATES.
I FEAR WHEN THIS MOMENT PASSES
THEY WILL GO BACK TO WHERE THEY
HAVE BEEN THE PAST 25 YEARS.
BRIAN: THEY ARE LIVING THROUGH
THIS NOW, THEY ARE SEEING
INNOCENT PEOPLE BEING KILLED AND
TORTURED.
MY HOPE IS THEY WON’T GO BACK IT
TO, THEIR PEOPLE WON’T LET THEM.
YOU SAID THIS ABOUT OUR MAIN THREAT ALONG WITH RUSSIA.
THREAT ALONG WITH RUSSIA.
>> THE PARTNER IN RUSSIA’S
AGGRESSION, XI JINPING IS OUR
GREATEST CHALLENGE CIA HAS EVER
FACED.
BRIAN: DO YOU AGREE, MORE
PROFOUND THAN THE SOVIET UNION
IN THE 60s AND 70s.
>> ABSOLUTELY.
I’M HEARTENED TO HEAR THE
DIRECTOR SAY THAT.
XI IS WATCHING THIS.
MY GUESS IS NOT ONLY IS HE A
SILENT PARTNER WITH RUSSIA.
AND IF WE PROVIDE THE UKRAINIANS
WITH THE ARMAMENTS THEY NEED.
XI WILL BE SUPPORTING RUSSIA.
IT MAY BE THAT XI JINPING MADE
HIS BED AND HE CAN’T LET PUTIN
FAIL AND WON’T.
BRIAN: DO YOU THINK CHINA IS
LIKELY TO ATTACK TAIWAN?
>> I DON’T THINK THIS CHANGES
XI’S INTENTIONS.
I WILL WANT TO DELAY AND MAKE
SURE HIS GENERALS WEREN’T FLYING
HIM.
HIS WORDS TO HE UNIFY TAIWAN
AREN’T GOING TO CHANGE.
HE MAY WAIT JUST A LITTLE BIT.
BUT WE SHOULD NOT FORGET FOR ONE
MOMENT.
THE CHINESE COMMUNIST PARTY
PRESENTS THE GREATEST SINGLE THE
EXTERNAL THREAT TO THE UNITED
STATES OF AMERICA.
HE MADE THE COMMITMENT THAT HE
WILL REUNIFY HIS NATION BY
DRAWING TAIWAN BACK IN.
HE WON’T WALK AWAY FROM THAT
BECAUSE PUTIN HAD A DIFFICULT
TIME SECURING KYIV.
BRIAN: I BELIEVE WE SHOULD DO IT
WITH UNIFORMED SOLDIERS.
HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT THAT?
>> WE SHOULD ARM THEM TO THE
TEETH AND THE MOMENT IS UPON US.
HARD TO GET MIG 29s IN AFTER
THE WAR STARTED.
THE SAME WAY IT WOULD BE
DIFFICULT TO CREATE ARMAMENT
SHIPMENTS AND RESUPPLY ROUTES
ONCE XI HAS ALREADY TAKEN
ACTION.
DURING THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION
I SIGNED OFF ON THE SALE OF
F-1s AND ANTI-AIR CRAFT
EQUIPMENT.
WE SHOULD MAKE THE CLEAR THAT
OUR ALLIES IN THE REGION AND
SOUTH KOREA, AUSTRALIA, THAT
THEY ARE DOING IT AS WELL.
THIS HAS TO BE A COLLECTIVE
EFFORT.
XI’S INTENTIONS ARE FAR BIGGER
THAN JUST TAIWAN.
WE NEED TO MAKE SURE ALL THE
LIBERAL DEMOCRACIES ARE PREPARED
TO DEFEND THEIR OWN SOVEREIGNTY
AS WELL.
BRIAN: YOU HAVE YOUR FAMILY AT