>>> WERE BACK, NOW, WITH ROSE McGOWAN.
McGOWAN.
I HAVE TO ASK YOU ABOUT GEORGINA
CHAPMAN, WHO EMERGED IN A
"VANITY FAIR" ARTICLE SUGGESTING
SHE WAS SHOCKED BY ALL OF THIS.
AND EVEN, WEVE SEEN WHATS THE NAME OF THE ACTRESS WHO WORE HER
GOWN TO THE OSCARS.
>> SCARLETT JOHANSSON. >> WHAT DID YOU MAKE OF THAT?
>> I THOUGHT IT WAS AN UGLY
GOWN.
GOWN.
>> WHAT DID YOU MAKE OF
GEORGINAS SUGGESTION THAT SHE
DIDNT KNOW?
IT WAS "VOGUE."
>> ITS A TOUGH SITUATION TO BE A WOMAN AND CALL OUT ANOTHERBE
A WOMAN AND CALL OUT ANOTHER WOMAN.
WOMAN.
BUT I WAS SAT BETWEEN THEM,
BETWEEN HARVEY WEINSTEIN AND
GEORGINA CHAPMAN AT CANNES SEVEN OR EIGHT YEARS AGO. CANNES SEVEN
OR EIGHT YEARS AGO. I WAS PURPOSELY SAT THERE.
IT WAS VERY AWKWARD. SHE WOULDNT LOOK AT MY FACE.
THATS ALL IM GOING TO SAY
ABOUT THAT.
ABOUT THAT. >> WHAT DO YOU THINK IN TERMS OF
PROPORTION
PROPORTIONALTY?
THATS SOMETHING I WANTED TO
TALK TO YOU ABOUT.
MY BELIEF IS THERES ROOM FOR
THAT IN THE #METOO MOVEMENT,
THAT YOU CAN SEPARATE THE HARVEYS FROM A BEN AFFLECK.
AND I KNOW SOME PEOPLE HAVE
GOTTEN IN TROUBLE FOR TRYING TO
MAKE THAT POINT INARTICULATELY.
BUT DO YOU BELIEVE THERES ROOM
FOR PORTIONALTY IN THE REQUEST
#METOO MOVEMENT.
#METOO MOVEMENT. >> BEN AFFLECK MIGHT JUST BE A
SCHMUCK.
SCHMUCK.
>> POSSIBLE. POSSIBLE.LE.
POSSIBLE. >> BUT DO I THINK HES A
PREDATOR?
PREDATOR?
NO.
THERES PEOPLE THAT HAVE SOME
GLITCH IN THEIR -- THERES
SOMETHING WRONG.
BEN, YOU KNOW, HES JUST BEN.
I DO THINK --
>> SOME GUYS ARE GUILTY OF
BOARISH BEHAVIOR, AND MOVE ON TO
BETTER TIMES.
>> I THINK WE CAN -- AND "BRAVE" IS ABOUT THIS, US GETTING BETTER
AS A SPECIES BY 10%.
THATS MY MOVEMENT,
CONSCIOUSNESS RAISING.
CONSCIOUSNESS RAISING. I WANTED TO SEE, ONE, IF I COULD
MAKE TIME GO FASTER.
IF I COULD GET US TO THIS POINT
QUICKER THAN WE WOULD.
I WANTED TO WAIT NTANOTHER 20
YEARS.
YEARS.
>> BUT AT GREAT EXPENSE TO YOU. >> CORRECT.REAT EXPENSE TO YOU.
>> CORRECT. >> DO YOU HAVE ANY FUTURE IN
HOLLYWOOD?
HOLLYWOOD? >> NO.
>> NO. THEY DONT HAVE A FUTURE WITH
ME, EITHER.
ME, EITHER. I HAVE A SAY, TOO.
>> THEY HAVENT EMBRACED YOU.
>> I DONT LIKE THEM.
I KNOW THEM.
PEOPLE ACT AS IF IM SAYING
THINGS ABOUT PEOPLE THAT I DONT
KNOW.
KNOW.
I WAS THERE.
THEY MIGHT HAVE TREATED ME VERY BADLY AND IGNORED ME.ED ME VERY
BADLY AND IGNORED ME. BUT I WAS SITTING NEXT TO THESE
PEOPLE.
PEOPLE.
I WAS IN HOLLYWOOD SINCE I WAS 15.AS IN HOLLYWOOD SINCE I WAS
15.
I KNOW THESE PEOPLE LIKE THE
BACK OF MY HAND.
SO, WHEN I SEE THEIR LIES AND I
HEAR THEIR COMPLICITY AND I HEAR
THEM COVERING FOR EACH OTHER, I THINK, YOU KNOW, THE GODDESS, I
THINK, YOU KNOW, THE GODDESS WAY OF PROTECTING ME THAT I
WASNT MENTIONED AT THE GOLDEN
GLOBES.
GLOBES.
ITS AN ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM BUT
A BIG ELEPHANT.
>> HARVEY WEINSTEIN WAS ON CAMERA WHEN THIS BROKE SAYING,
FORGIVENESS, GUYS?
FORGIVENESS, GUYS? HOW ABOUT FORGIVENESS?
COULD YOU FORGIVE HIM?
>> I DONT WANT TO.
BECAUSE ITS NOT ABOUT ME.
IM A REPRESENTATIVE FOR ALL OF
US WHO HAVE BEEN HURT.
I WANT TO FORGIVE THE WORLD FOR
HURTING PEOPLE.
HURTING PEOPLE.
AND HES A PART OF THAT.
I THINK THERES SO MANY OTHERS
THAT I NEED TO FORGIVE EVEN
BEFORE HIM. BUT I DONT.
ITS A VERY COMPLEX ISSUE, THAT
ONE.
ONE.
AND MAYBE ILL GET THERE SOMEDAY.E ILL GET THERE
SOMEDAY.
>> MAYBE IT WILL BE THE NEXT
REAL STEP IN SETTING YOURSELF FREE.STEP IN SETTING YOURSELF
FREE.
>> AND SETTING MYSELF FREE. ITS ALL A PROCESS.ELF FREE.
ITS ALL A PROCESS. WERE GOING THROUGH THIS
TOGETHER.
TOGETHER.
>> THATS RIGHT.
>> WERE ALL LEARNING. THIS IS HAPPENING IN REAL-TIME.
I CAN SAY THIS --
THE MAN WHO PINNED ME DOWN HAD
HANDCUFFS ON HIM TODAY.
[ APPLAUSE ]
>> THE BOOK IS CALLED "BRAVE."
ITS CALLED "BRAVE."
AND YOU ARE.
MUCH LOVE TO YOU. DONT FORGET, "CITIZEN ROSE" HER
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