POSSIBLE DANGERS TO WATCH FOUR MONDAY ON LOCAL 4 NEWS TODAY AND STREAMING ON LOCAL 4 PLUS. YEAH.
CATCH UP WITH, IN FACT, FAR TOO
CONSEQUENTIAL TO BE CONSIDERED
ODDS AND ENDS. SO LET’S EDIT
THAT LET ME BRING IN NOLAN
FINLEY OF THE DETROIT NEWS AND
STEPHEN HENDERSON OF WD ET IN
DETROIT TODAY TO SORT IT OUT.
GUYS I WANT TO START WITH THE
MONEY PARTY IN LANSING. THERE’S
A LOT OF MONEY LAYING AROUND IN
THE CAPITAL. JUST SO HAPPENS TO
BE AN ELECTION YEAR, SO IT SEEMS
LIKE A GOOD TIME. TO GIVE MORE
OF IT BACK. A LOT OF PEOPLE
STILL ENJOYING THE FACT THAT
THEY GOT THEIR REBATES ON THEIR
CAR INSURANCE CHECKS. BUT NOLAN
WHAT’S BETTER POLICY REBATE AS
THE GOVERNOR IS TALKING ABOUT OR
TAX CUTS AS REPUBLICANS IN THE
LEGISLATURE TALKING ABOUT WELL,
I ALWAYS PREFER TAX CUTS DE’VEON
THINK MORE BENEFIT TO HOUSEHOLDS
TO BUSINESSES. WHATEVER. YOU
KNOW WHAT YOU’RE YOUR NEW TAX
BURDEN IS GOING TO BE SO YOU
KNOW, I PREFER THAT TO REPAY
WHICH JUST FLUSHES THROUGH THE
ECONOMY AND HAS GONE COULD
ACTUALLY CONTRIBUTE TO INFLATION
. BUT WHAT WE SAY IN TODAY’S
EDITORIAL IS WE SHOULD MAYBE
SLOW DOWN AND LOOK AHEAD HERE.
WE SEE SOME REAL ECONOMIC STORM
CLOUDS IS EVERYONE DOES ON THE
HORIZON, AND WE TALKED TO, YOU
KNOW, THE ANDERSON ECONOMIC
GROUP. IT SAYS THAT NOTES WE’VE
HAD FOUR QUARTERS OF DECLINING
REAL EARNINGS IN THE STATE,
BLOOMBERG SAYS. NOW THERE’S A
30% CHANCE. OF A RECESSION, AND
AS WE KNOW IT’S A WHOLE LOT
EASIER TO CUT TAXES WHEN TIMES
ARE FLUSH THAN IT IS TO RAISE
TAXES WHEN THE STATE IS BROKE.
SO EITHER A LITTLE PRUDENCE HERE
IN DISCUSSING TAX REBATES, AND
THAT’S NOT USUALLY WHERE I AM I
LOVE A TAX CUT EVEN A TAX REBATE
, BUT THIS YOU KNOW IT MIGHT BE
WORTH LOOKING OUT AHEAD AND
SAYING OKAY, IF WE DO THIS NOW
ARE WE GOING TO WISH WE HAD THAT
MONEY SET ASIDE A YEAR OR TWO
FROM NOW, STEPHEN, I THE THERE
ARE SOME WHO BELIEVE THAT PEOPLE
DO NEED MORE IMMEDIATE RELIEF
BECAUSE OF WHAT’S GOING ON WITH
THE PRICE OF EVERYTHING,
ESPECIALLY GASOLINE RIGHT NOW,
BUT THERE’S NO ONE HAVE A POINT
THAT WE NEED TO BE THINKING
ABOUT THE LONG TERM STORM THAT’S
GATHERING ON THE HORIZON. YEAH
SO YOU’LL HAVE TO GIVE ME A
SECOND TO PICK MY JAW UP OFF THE
GROUND TURNS, NOLAN SAY THAT
HE’S NOT IN FAVOR OF A TAX CUT
HERE, UM, ARGUED SOMETHING. UM
SO YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT IS
PART OF WHAT ARGUES FOR A
REBATE. IF YOU’RE GOING TO DO
ANYTHING RIGHT THAT THAT YOU
DON’T CHANGE THE FUNDAMENTAL TAX
STRUCTURE, BUT YOU GIVE PEOPLE
SOME SORT OF TEMPORARY RELIEF
BECAUSE THINGS ARE PRETTY BLEAK
RIGHT NOW, UH, I DON’T THINK
THERE’S ANYTHING WRONG WITH THAT
LOGIC, BUT BUT I JUST OBJECT TO
THE WHOLE IDEA OF DOING THIS IN
AN ELECTION SEASON. I MEAN, I
THINK IF YOU REALLY WANT TO TALK
ABOUT TAX STRUCTURE THERE ARE A
LOT OF THINGS WE NEED TO FIX IN
TERMS OF TAXES IN MICHIGAN. WHY
NOT WAIT UNTIL AFTER THE
ELECTION? LET’S GET TO SEE WHO’S
GOING TO BE GOVERNOR. LET’S GET
TO SEE WHAT THE NEW LEGISLATURE
LOOKS LIKE AND THEN REALLY,
ACTUALLY SIT DOWN AND TALK ABOUT
IT. THIS IS ABOUT PANDERING FOR
VOTES ON BOTH SIDES OF THE
AISLE, WHICH DOESN’T OFTEN LEAD
TO TWO GOOD POLICY TO PICK UP MY
JAW. YOU SOUND A LITTLE BIT LIKE
MITCH MCCONNELL. LET’S NOT DO
ANYTHING UNTIL AFTER THE
ELECTION HERE. THAT’S DIFFERENT
. UNDERSTAND UNDERSTAND? UM, I
GOT A COUPLE OF THINGS I WANT TO
BECAUSE WE COULD SPEND A LONG
TIME ON THIS. I WANT TO MOVE ON
TO SOME OTHER THINGS. WE’RE ALL
GOING TO BE UP AT MACKINAW HERE
THE WEEK AFTER LABOR DAY. NOLAN
I THINK WE’RE ALL LOOKING
FORWARD TO THIS GUBERNATORIAL
DEBATE, AND IT’S KIND OF TURNED
INTO A BIT OF A MESS. RYAN KELLY
WAS IN THEN OUT, THEN IN AND NOW
BACK OUT AGAIN, I GUESS OVER
EITHER THE HAVING TO SHOW THAT
HE’S HAD THE VACCINE OR A
NEGATIVE COVID TEST. WHAT DO YOU
WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THIS
SORT OF ENTIRE ENVIRONMENT? BUT
I DON’T THINK IT’S A GREAT LOSS
CONCERNS ME MORE. AND I’VE
EXPRESSED THIS IS THAT I THOUGHT
TUNER DICK DIXON SHOULD BE ON
THAT ON THAT STAGE. I KNOW THE
POLLING DOESN’T YEAH, LOOK IS
FAVORABLE FOR HER, BUT SHE’S THE
ONLY WOMAN CANDIDATE ON THE GOP
SIDE. SHE HAS PICKED UP SOME
IMPORTANT ENDORSEMENTS FROM, UH,
YOU KNOW, FROM OFFICIALS FROM
FROM CONGRESS, PEOPLE WHAT HAVE
YOU SHE’S RUNNING A MORE
VIGOROUS CAMPAIGN, PERHAPS THEN
THAT SOME OF THE OTHERS, UH, I’D
LIKE TO SEE HER UP THERE AND SEE
HOW SHE CONTRAST BECAUSE IF YOU
LOOK WHAT’S HAPPENING WITH THE
SIGNATURES, WE COULD LOSE A
COUPLE OF THESE GUYS WHO ARE ON
THE STAGE, PERHAPS EVEN BY THE
TIME MACKINAW ROLLS AROUND. IT’S
VERY TRUE, STEPHEN. I SYMPATHIZE
WITH THE CHAMBER. ANYBODY TRYING
TO HOST THIS IF, AS WE’VE SEEN
BEFORE, 10 CANDIDATE DEBATES
DON’T REALLY LEAVE YOU WITH A
WHOLE LOT. THIS IS A TRICKY
THING TO TRY AND CREATE A LITTLE
BIT OF, UH, SOMETHING THAT THAT
PASSES AS EFFECTIVE AND HELPS
PEOPLE SORT OF WINNOW THE FIELD.
YEAH WELL, NO. ONE AND I HAVE
HAD MODERATE THOSE DEBATES, AND
IT’S NOT ANY FUN AT ALL. AND I
DON’T THINK PEOPLE LEARN
ANYTHING WHEN YOU HAVE THAT MANY
PEOPLE ON THE STAGE, THERE’S
GOTTA BE A BETTER WAY TO DO THIS
. I’M NOT SURE WHAT THAT IS, BUT
BUT THIS IS WHAT WE’RE STUCK
WITH. AND LOOK THE THIS IS THE
CHAMBERS CONFERENCE. THIS ISN’T
A PUBLIC EVENT. IT’S A IT’S A
MEMBER EVENT YOU PAY TO GO. THE
CHAMBER GETS TO SET THE RULES.
AND IF YOU DON’T WANT TO FOLLOW
THE RULES, THEN YOU YOU WON’T BE
THERE. AND I DON’T THINK THE
RULES ARE UNREASONABLE AT ALL.
ESPECIALLY GIVEN THE NUMBERS
27,000 NEW COVID CASES LAST WEEK
IN MICHIGAN, COME ON, SHOULD WE
ALL BE UP THERE? JUST ACTING
LIKE THE PANDEMIC DIDN’T HAPPEN.
THAT DOESN’T MAKE SENSE AT ALL.
ONLY GOTTA STAY. GO AHEAD. THANK
YOU. THEY DID SAY THEY’RE
HOLDING IT OUTSIDE. AND SO THE
VACCINATION RULES WON’T APPLY. I
THINK HE’S JUST GRANDSTANDING.
YEAH. HE SAID. HE SAID THAT YOU
KNOW, SOMEWHERE HE HAS TO PUT
HIS FOOT DOWN. BUT THAT WAS
AFTER HE HAD SAID THAT HE WAS
YOU MAY BE RIGHT. HE DECIDED HE
COULD MAKE MORE HEBEI NOT GOING
THAT HE COULD. IF HE DID, GUYS
I’VE ONLY GOT ABOUT 45 SECONDS
LEFT HERE, BUT I WANT TO LET YOU
BOTH WEIGH IN. WE JUST WATCHED A
COUPLE OF A BIG ELECTIONS TAKE
PLACE THIS PAST WEEK, WE WATCHED
THE FIGHT BREAK OUT WITH DONALD
TRUMP AND JOCELYN BENSON. WHAT
DID WE LEARN THIS PAST WEEK
ABOUT DONALD TRUMP’S IMPACT
MOVING FORWARD TO THE MIDTERMS?
NOLAN YOU FIRST. WELL I MEAN,
IT’S CLEAR HE’S STILL HAS
INFLUENCE ON THE PARTY, AND YOU
SAW THAT IN OHIO, UH AND YOU’RE
SEEING IT NOW IN PENNSYLVANIA
WITH, UH, AS SORT OF LOCKED IN A
TIGHT RACE. HE STILL HAS
INFLUENCE, BUT IT’S BEEN IT’S
PENCE SOMEWHAT SPOTTED. IT
HASN’T BEEN UNIVERSAL. STEPHEN
JUMP IN THERE REAL QUICK.
PROMOTIONS I MEAN, THIS IS ALL
GEARING UP FOR TWO YEARS FROM
NOW, AND THE QUESTION ABOUT HOW
STRONG WILL BE IN THE REPUBLICAN
PRIMARY. THERE IS A GREAT
INTERNAL STRUGGLE GOING ON IN
THE PARTY RIGHT NOW, I THINK
MORE AND MORE PEOPLE ARE
REALIZING THAT HE IS TOXIC AND
THAT HE WILL LEAD THE PARTY OFF
THE CLIFF, BUT THEY AREN’T ABLE
TO CONVINCE VOTERS OF THAT AND
THAT THAT REMAINS THE CHALLENGE.
ALRIGHT GUYS, I GOT TO GET TO A
BREAK. WE’VE GOT TO LEAVE IT
THERE. BUT I WILL SEE YOU BOTH
ON MACKINAW THANKS VERY MUCH FOR
THE TIME TODAY AND THAT DOES IT