>> Molly: SENATE MAJORITY
LEADER MITCH MCCONNELL
PROMISING SOELGTS COORDINATION
WITH THE WHITE HOUSE ON
IMPEACHMENT PROCEEDINGS.
LISA MURCOWSKI SAID SHE IS
DISTURBED BY THAT STRATEGY.
NOW I'M JOINED BY THE AUTHOR,
THE REAL STORY OF TRUMP'S
PRESIDENCY.
THANK YOU FOR JOINING ME.
I KNOW YOU ARE AN HISTORIAN.
WE'LL LOOK AHEAD A LITTLE BIT
HERE AS WE'RE WAITING THE SEE
WHEN THE TRIAL WOULD HAPPEN,
JANUARY, FEBRUARY?
THAT CAN MEAN A LOT FOR 2020.
WE SHALL SEE.
STICKING TO SENATOR MURCOWSKI
TO KICK THINGS OFF.
WHAT SHE HAS COMPLAINED ABOUT
IN THIS IS ESSENTIALLY THE
AFFECTING OF THE PROCESS.
SHE IS CONCERNED THIS WILL
FURTHER CONFUSE THE PROCESS.
YOUR THOUGHTS ON HER OPINION,
POTENTIALLY AFFECTING THE
PROCESS REPUBLICANS WOULD LIKE
TO SEE.
COULD SHE THROW A WRENCH IN
MCCONNELL'S PLAN FOR A QUICK
TRIAL?
>> WELL, I THINK THIS IS
SENATOR MURCOWSKI SIGNALING WHO
SHE IS.
SHE IS AN ESTABLISHMENT
REPUBLICAN.
DON'T FORGET US.
THE POWERFUL LOBBIES HAVE TO
MAKE SURE SHE IS STILL THERE IN
PLACE AND SHE IS.
BUT I DON'T THINK IT IS GOING
ANYWHERE.
IT IS CERTAINLY NOT OUTRAGEOUS
FOR SENATOR MCCONNELL TO PRESS
THIS AS A REPUBLICAN BECAUSE
THE IMPEACHMENT WAS 100% --
100% DEMOCRATIC.
THEY DIDN'T TAKE A BREATH.
TWO YEARS OF RUSSIAN COLLUSION,
TWO MONTHS OF BRIBERY, NEVER
TOOK A BREATH AND SAID WE WERE
WRONG ABOUT THAT, TOO.
THEY GO RIGHT INTO THIS
IMPEACHMENT ON OBSTRUCTION OF
CONGRESS WHICH SHOULD BE PRETTY
EASY TO PROVE.
WHAT ARE THE REPUBLICANS GOING
TO DO?
IF THEY DIDN'T UNITE BEHIND THE
PRESIDENT THERE WOULD BE A LOT
OF REPUBLICANS ANGRY.
>> Molly: HE SAID HE PREDICTS
THE PARTISAN OUTCOME.
YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT
SENATOR MU KOWSKI, NOT AFRAID
TO BUCK THE SISTER.
SHE VOTED AGAINST THE KAVANAUGH
NOMINATION.
AMONG A SMALL GROUP OF SENATORS
THAT PREVENTED THE REPEAL OF
OBAMACARE.
THE WRANGLING THAT WILL GO ON
BETWEEN DEMOCRATS AND
REPUBLICANS IS ABOUT THE RULES.
AND DEMOCRATS WANT TO SEE
WITNESSES.
THEY WANT TO SEE DOCUMENTS.
MCCONNELL WANTS TO GET IT OVER
WITH QUICKLY.
SENATOR LINDSEY GRAHAM HAS
CALLED IT A DEAD CAT.
SO COULD SHE OR OTHER ALLIES,
SENATOR SUSAN COLLINS, MITT
ROMNEY, COULD THEY THROW A
WRENCH IN THINGS AS FAR AS THE
LENGTH OF THIS TRIAL?
WITNESSES, DOCUMENTS?
>> MOLLY, YOU ARE ON TO
SOMETHING THERE.
IT COULD VERY WELL HAPPEN.
WHAT WE DON'T KNOW IS WHETHER
THAT WOULD BE TO THEIR
ADVANTAGE OR NOT.
IN FACT, THERE ARE MANY PEOPLE
WHO ARGUE IT WOULD BE TO THEIR
DISADVANTAGE.
THAT THEY DON'T WANT TO LINGER
OR DON'T WANT TO HAVE JOE BIDEN
FORCED TO COME AND TESTIFY AND
HUNTER BIDEN.
THEY DON'T WANT IT TO GO ON.
IT COULD BACKFIRE.
SO FAR NOT WORKING THE WAY THE
DEMOCRATS WANT.
THE NUMBERS SHOW THAT.
AS FAR AS RUSSIAN COLLUSION I
HAVE TO TELL YOU IN MY BOOK
THERE IS A GREAT STORY IN THERE.
THE TRUMP KIDS ARE TRAVELING
ALL OVER THE WORLD, HEADS OF
STATE ARE PULLING THEM ASIDE IN
2017 AND THEY'RE SAYING PLEASE
TELL YOUR FATHER HOW SORRY WE
ARE ABOUT THIS RUSSIAN
COLLUSION NONSENSE.
SO THERE YOU GO.
IF YOU ARE THE PRESIDENT OF
CHINA OR PRESIDENT OF FRANCE,
YOU CAN'T WAIT TWO YEARS FOR
THE MUELLER REPORT.
YOU HAVE YOUR OWN SECRET
SERVICE.
120 INTELLIGENCE SERVICES IN
THE WORLD.
EVERYONE OF THEM CHECKED IT OUT.
THEY KNEW WITHIN 24 HOURS IT
WAS A BOGUS STORY.
THE FUTURE OF THEIR COUNTRY
DEPENDED ON KNOWING THAT.
THIS IS KIND OF LINGERED ON A
LITTLE TOO LONG.
>> Molly: THE PRESIDENT HAS
RAISED SOME OF THOSE POINTS
TALKING ABOUT UNFAIRNESS OVER
THE COURSE OF ALL OF THIS.
AS WE LOOK TOWARD THESE
ARTICLES OF IMPEACHMENT BEING
HELD HERE WE'RE SEEING THEM IN
JANUARY OR LEAK INTO FEBRUARY?
IF YOU COULD LOOK AT A SENATE
TRIAL GOING ON.
THE DEMOCRATS ARE BATTLING IT
OUT IN IOWA AND NEW HAMPSHIRE.
WHAT IS THAT GOING TO LOOK LIKE?
>> YEAH, AND FOR THE
PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN.
RIGHT NOW IF I WERE ADVISING
THE DEMOCRATS I WOULD SAY
YOU'VE GOT TO GET A CANDIDATE.
YOU'VE GOT TO GET SOME TALKING
POINTS THAT ARE UNIFORM.
YOU CAN'T ONE DAY BE FOR THE
CONSTITUTION AND THE NEXT DAY
WANT TO GUT THE CONSTITUTION.
YOU'VE GOT TO AT LEAST GET A
BRAND, GET A SLOGAN, GET
SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN UNIFY
BEHIND.
STAND FOR SOMETHING OTHER THAN
JUST HATING DONALD TRUMP.
HATE WON'T WIN THE ELECTION.
SOMETHING ELSE IS NEEDED.
>> Molly: WE THANK YOU SO MUCH.
FUN TO READ YOUR NEXT BOOK.