IMPORTANT PIECE OF LITERATURE.
WE OUGHT TO DO IT AGAIN.
>> SO, JONATHAN, TO QUOTE LYNDON
JOHNSON ON ANOTHER MATTER, THESE
ARE THE STAKES.
AND IM GOING TO PLAY FOR YOU
WHAT SENATOR MURKOWSKI,
REPUBLICAN OF ALASKA SAID TO HER
FELLOW REPUBLICAN SENATORS IN
EFFECT ABOUT THE NEED FOR THIS
COMMISSION.
WELL DISCUSS ON THE OTHER SIDE.
>> THIS WAS AN ATTACK ON OUR
CAPITOL.
DESIGNED TO STOP -- TO STOP A
PROCESS THAT HAS BEEN IN PLAY
FOR A CENTURY PLUS.
SO WE JUST CANT PRETEND THAT
NOTHING BAD HAPPENED OR THAT
PEOPLE JUST GOT TOO EXCITABLE.
SOMETHING BAD HAPPENED, AND ITS
IMPORTANT TO LAY THAT OUT.
>> SO, ON SOCIAL MEDIA TONIGHT,
JONATHAN, A GOOD MANY DEMOCRATS
WERE SAYING TO THE SENATOR, SO
SWITCH PARTIES.
COME ON OVER AND JOIN THE HOME
TEAM, JOIN THE TEAM OF REASON.
JONATHAN, THE QUESTION FOR YOU
IS, HOW DO REPUBLICANS LISTEN TO
THAT AND JUSTIFY THEIR "NO"
VOTE?
>> THEY HAVENT JUSTIFIED IT
VERY EFFECTIVELY, BRIAN.
THAT MUCH IS CLEAR.
THEY HAVE TO THIS DAY WEDDED
THEMSELVES TO FORMER PRESIDENT
TRUMP, AND THE BIG LIE THAT HE
WAS OF COURSE, HE CLAIMS,
ELECTED IN LAST NOVEMBER AND
THAT THE ELECTION WAS STOLEN
FROM HIM.
NONE OF THAT IS TRUE.
OF COURSE IT WAS THAT FORMER
PRESIDENT AND HIS WORDS THAT
INCITED THE VIOLENCE ON CAPITOL
HILL ON JANUARY 6th.
THERE ARE A FEW REPUBLICANS WHO
VOTED TO SAY -- INDICATED THEY
WILL VOTE TO GET TO THE BOTTOM
OF THIS.
COLLINS, MURKOWSKI, ROMNEY, SAID
THEY DO WANT TO HAVE THIS
JANUARY 6th COMMISSIONAL BUT
WHEN LEADER McCONNELL IS
ACTIVELY TRYING TO QUASH IT,
TELLING MEMBERS IT WILL BE A
PERSONAL FAVOR TO HIM TO DO SO,
IT DOESNT STAND A CHANCE.
RON JANIS, YOULL REMEMBER HIM
AS THE SENATOR WHO SAID HED BE
FAR MORE AFRAID IF THEY HAD BEEN
BLACK LIVES MATTER PROTESTERS
RATHER THAN THE TRUMP FANS WHO
STORMED THE CAPITOL, KILLED
MULTIPLE PEOPLE AND TRIED TO
HANG THE VICE PRESIDENT.
HE IS ENGAGING IN STALL TACTICS
IN THE SENATE RIGHT NOW,
APPROACHING MIDNIGHT, DELAYING
VOTES ON A NUMBER OF MATTERS --
CHINA, A CHINA BILL AND ENDLESS
FRONTIERS BILL AND EVEN GETTING
TO THE JANUARY COMMISSION VOTE
BECAUSE HE WANTS THERE TO BE
DISCUSSION ABOUT PRESIDENT
TRUMPS FORMER BORDER WALL,
WHICH HE WAS A PRIZE CAMPAIGN
PROMISE THAT NOT MUCH CAME OF
IT.
SO THATS WHERE THEY ARE.
THE REPUBLICAN PARTY RIGHT NOW
IS STILL FOR THE VAST MAJORITY
OF THEM, DOING FORMER PRESIDENT
TRUMPS BIDDING.
THEY WANT TO PUT JANUARY 6th
BEHIND THEM AS QUICKLY AS
POSSIBLE.
THEYRE FOCUSED ON THE 2022
MIDTERMS AND NOT GETTING TO THE
BOTTOM OF ONE OF THE DARKEST
DAYS IN AMERICAN HISTORY.
>> CAROL, LETS TALK ABOUT
SOMEONE YOU COVERED FOR YEARS
AND THATS FEDERAL JUDGE AMY
BERMAN JACKSON.
SHE WROTE AN OPINION THIS WEEK
ON WHY SHE WAS GOING TO KEEP IN
DETENTION ONE OF THE 1/6
DEFENDANTS, THE ACCUSED
INSURRECTIONISTS, AND SHE THREW
THIS IN -- THE STEADY DRUM BEAT
THAT INSPIRED THE DEFENDANT TO
TAKE UP ARMS HAS NOT FADED AWAY.
SIX MONTHS LATER THE CUNNARD IS
BEING -- AND NOT TO MENTION IN
THE NEAR DAILY FULL MY NATIONS
OF THE FORMER PRESIDENT.
CAROL, HOW BIG IS IT TO READ A
SECTION THAT SPEAKS ENGLISH
WRITTEN BY NOT JUST A MEMBER OF
THE FEDERAL BENCH, A SUPREMELY
FORMIDABLE MEMBER OF THE FEDERAL
BENCH?
>> IM ALWAYS IMPRESSED BY JUDGE
JACKSONS USE OF THE DICTIONARY,
AND IT COMES OUT OF HER MOUTH
VERY EASILY COMPARED TO MINE.
BUT TO GET FULMINATIONS AND
CUNARD INTO ONE PLEADING IS
PRETTY GOOD.
SHE IS DEAD RIGHT, BRIAN.
THE CONTINUATION OF THE BIG LIE,
YOU KNOW, ITS SO DEMONSTRABLY
FALSE.
THIS IS NOT THE ONLY DEFENDANT
WHO HAS BEEN HELD BECAUSE OF THE
POTENTIAL RISKS OF THEM DOING
HARD TO PEOPLE IN THE FUTURE
BECAUSE THEY STILL BELIEVE THESE
CLAIMS, THESE CLAIMS ARE STILL
BEING STOKED.
AND THEYRE BEING STOKED BY, AS
SHE SAID, THE FORMER PRESIDENT,
A REALLY POWERFUL PERSON WITH A
LARGE MEGA PHONE.
EVEN THOUGH HE NO LONGER HAS
TWITTER, A LOFT POWER.
SADLY, A LARGE NUMBER OF
AMERICANS STILL BELIEVE THIS TO BE THE CASE.
BE THE CASE.
I THINK THAT RIGHT NOW SOME
BELIEVE THE ELECTION WAS STOLEN
AND, THEY MAY HAVE TO RESORT THE
TAKING MATTERS INTO THEIR OWN
HANDS TO SOLVE THIS PROBLEM, THE
THEFT OF OUR DEMOCRACY.
ITS QUITE THE OPPOSITE, BUT
UNFORTUNATELY THERES A LARGE
GROUP OF LAWMAKERS WHO ARE,
AGAIN, CONTINUING TO REPEAT THIS
AND IT REMINDS ME -- IM SORRY
TO GO BACK TO AN OLD SAW, BUT IT
REALLY REMINDS ME OF WHEN THE
BUSH ADMINISTRATION WAS PUSHING
THE CLAIM -- IT SEEMS ANTIQUE
NOW -- THAT SADDAM HUSSEIN WAS
GUILTY OF FOMENTING TERRORISM
AND TWO OUT OF THREE AMERICANS
HE HAD SOMETHING TO DO WITH THE