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- Well, hi there folks,
I'm Bob Schrupp, physical therapist-
- Brad Heineck, physical therapist.
- Together we are the most famous physical therapists
on the internet.
- In our opinion of course, Bob.
- We got an interesting topic today.
We're going to show you how to fall and get up,
when you have a prosthesis.
- Yeah, this is excellent information,
but I didn't realize that we would actually
do a video on this, but--
- Why not? - ... very relevant.
So, we're going to have to trip somebody.
- That's just how it works.
- But we do have someone with a prosthesis,
who's been with it for 12 years,
and he's an expert, he knows --
- Well he is expert on falling.
According to him, he's fallen a lot.
So, I hope he's got strong bones.
- Let's carry on, Bob. - All right.
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Remind me, Brad, what were we going to talk about again?
- Well, we're going to talk --
Whoa! - Oh! Holy moly.
Oh, are you okay?
- I'm absolutely okay.
- That was at 63 years old. My God.
With an above-the-knee amputee.
But Randy has actually said this happens.
- It happens usually once a day.
- So you know how to fall without hurting yourself.
- Give him the center seat Brad.
- Oh, I'm sorry. Yeah.
Come out over. Have a seat.
- Thank you.
- Please join us.
- Oh, that was impressive.
- The biggest thing is, don't flop.
- Sure. - Roll.
- Sure. Gotcha.
- Typically roll to your good side, right?
Because you can't control this prosthetic side,
and it doesn't bend certain ways.
Right? It does not bend this way, like your normal knee.
It only bends this way.
- So, you're saying the good side, you know, if it was
either side, it's always a side with the good leg.
- Right. - Right.
Okay, that makes sense.
- When you feel it start to go...
- Non-involved leg, Brad. - Yes. I'm sorry.
It's not good leg, bad leg. It's not a bad leg.
It's a good leg too.
(they laugh)
- The thing is, as you have a prosthetic leg, like I do,
you learn to sense when you're going to fall.
Right? - Sure.
- It's just quick, automatic, and you go, I better roll,
because there's been a number of times
when I've tried to save myself from falling,
and that can be catastrophic.
You can mess your back up.
If you toque your limb,
this little bit of residual limb in here, if you torque that
you're going to be down for a couple days.
You can really do some damage.
So, you want to keep this thing in free space
where there's not a lot of torque on it,
and take the hit with your good side.
- Before we go any further,
you're pretty high level for an amputee,
especially above the knee, I'm assuming, compared to...
- There's like, four levels of of activity,
and I'm probably at six or seven.
- I'm just saying that in case there's people on here
that are just getting in to this,
and they're not going to be at six,
they're going to be at one or two,
their goal or their level of activity.
They probably won't fall as much as you, I'm assuming.
- Probably not.
- But they still...
- They have to be more careful, probably.
They're probably going to use more of a gait aid
than you do, I mean, you don't use any at all.
- You don't use a cane, or...
- When I'm in the mountains, or in the canyons,
or going through thick cover, hunting,
I can use my walking sticks.
- Sure.
- And that takes a lot of the falling out of the equation.
But, I don't always have my walking sticks
when I'm doing those dumb things.
- Sure.
- And so your toe catches on stuff all the time.
If there's anything like a half an inch taller?
Like, if you're walking down the sidewalk,
and one part of the sidewalk up a half an inch
and you don't see it,
and hike your hip over it type of thing.
If you see it, you can adjust for it.
But if you don't see it,
what it does is it stops your toe. And when...
- You keep going.
- And as your momentum is taking you,
you're on this prosthetic,
all your weight's on this prosthetic,
and as you bring it over to bring it forward,
- It stops. - It stops.
And as great as this knee is, is it's a fancy hinge,
what it does is it locks.
It locks the hydraulics when it hits something like that.
It locks the hydraulics so that you can
throw it to the side and put weight on it.
If the hydraulics were open there'd be nothing to catch you.
- Sure - Sure.
It's got sensors in there that --
- It's got 13 sensors, and a microprocessor, and gyroscope,
and all kinds of stuff.
- Were you self-taught on how to fall,
or did someone help you work through it?
Or, I mean, you have an engineering background.
- Yeah. I have an engineering background.
I don't know if it was self-taught,
it was maybe self-survival. And you just learn
that you don't try and save yourself on your bad side.
You save it on your good side.
- If you had blanket advice to someone
with an above-knee prosthesis, what would you say to them?
What are the steps you'd take?
- Stay in shape. - Stay in shape.
- Stay in shape.
There's a wide spectrum of amputees, all over the place.
But, what I tell some amputees that,
they've seen some of the things I've done,
and they ask me, "Well, how do you do that?"
Well, number one, you've got to set yourself a goal.
It's discouraging to lose your leg,
and it takes a lot of courage to learn to walk again.
And if you don't set yourself a goal,
you're not going to be the best you can be.
Staying in shape is part of that.
If all you can do is walk to the mailbox, do that.
- Sure. - Okay.
What about the neighbor's mailbox, next week?
What about the post office that's seven blocks away?
- Reasonable goals.
- Just start small, and once you get to those goals,
a couple of things happen:
One, you realize, "Hey, I'm getting better."
Number two, I need to set another goal.
So let's keep living. - Right.
That's my motto, is get busy living.
- Sure. Right.
Typically in a day,
every morning when I wake up,
I look over at the wall and there's my leg.
And so I go through that mental gymnastics of,
"Oh, that's right. I don't have a right leg."
Well, I don't have time for that.
- Sure.
- Let's get busy living, put your leg on.
And then I typically forget about my leg unless I fall.
- Sure. And just so you know,
this has been 12 years since you've had your amputee
and that still happens every day.
- Most, every day, cause I do dumb stuff, you know,
I'm not your average smart person.
(they laugh)
- So, as you start to fall,
what's your first thought process? I'm going to roll?
- Roll. Yep. - Okay.
- I need to take the hit.
- And it's going to be, roll to your left side.
- To my left side. Yep. - Sure.
- And hopefully there's nothing sharp.
- Sure. - Sure.
- Yeah, I want to take as much of the hit --
- And this is automatically stiffening up
as you start to roll.
- Right. And, and maybe you noticed when I fell,
this leg was just flying through the air,
and that's just part of the roll.
- Any tips for getting up once you're down?
- Make sure you're okay before you take off.
Yeah, don't even try to get up.
That's a good point. That's a good point.
- Check out your arms and your legs.
Make sure there's no unusual pain.
- What did I impale myself on?
And it is a shock.
It's a mental shock that I think it just happens naturally.
When you take that shock, you go,
"What just happened? Am I okay?"
And then just do your crabwalk to get up. Reverse crabwalk.
I don't know if that's technical or what,
but that's what I do.
- Oh, you're you're talking about.
- Yep. You roll over.
Roll over. Yep.
Now I'm teaching the famous internet guy.
- So, if this is the amputee leg --
- [Randy] No, other one. - The other one is.
- [Randy] The other one.
Okay, keep your right leg stiff. Don't don't bend it.
Now get up. Just, yep.
- And then, so that will be locked in.
- [Randy] That's that's exactly how you do it.
- Okay. And if there is any furniture...
- [Bob] I was going to say,
you'd probably want to go to a furniture.
- [Randy] I don't. - Sure.
- [Randy] I just do a basic push up.
- So this leg needs to be in good condition.
- It does. - Right.
- Again, he's in that, probably, top one percentile here,
I think, that we're talking about.
- The other thing that you have to deal with,
if it's in public, do you get embarrassed or,
- Not anymore. - joke about it?
I'm no longer shy.
My biggest concern is hurting somebody else.
- Sure. - Sure.
- Right? When that leg comes flying over,
you know, you could knock somebody into next week.
- Right. He warned us that that might happen.
- Yeah, right. We were ready. - Yeah.
- Well, very impressive.
You do it quite well and you're in just excellent condition.
Do you work out?
- No, I don't work out one lick.
- Don't you really?
- But, I cut wood, I haul wood.
- That's working out. - I stack wood.
I work on my own vehicles.
I just replaced my son's deck this last weekend.
You know, you go to the lumber yard, you gotta get 30,
16-foot x 5/4, pressure-treated boards.
- Ooh, and they're heavy.
- And where's your son at? - Right?
- Oh, he had to work. - Oh darn.
(they laugh) Okay, Dad.
- And you're cutting with a chainsaw?
- Yeah. - Really?
- Yes. - Are you dropping trees, too?
- Yep. Dropping trees. - Wow.
- And I don't split with those fancy splitters.
I use a maul.
- Oh, really? - Old school.
- I have a lot of people say, "Well you could buy this,
or you could do that, or you could do this."
And I go, "Yeah but, I need to stay in shape."
- Sure. Anybody could do it that way.
- Yeah. - Yeah.
So, when I get up during the day,
I don't necessarily do things the hard way,
but I do them to stay in shape.
- Sure. - Sure.
Wow, well, that's an inspiration. I mean it really is.
- We're going to do another video.
Don't give it all away. - Oh, it's a segue, Bob.
It's a segue.
- Check out the final video that we'll have on with Randy,
and it's called,
You Will No Longer Have Any Excuses After You Meet This Guy,
or See This Guy.
- That's right.
We're going to continue our ladder up into success.
- There we go. - Very good.
- What's that? - Aw, come on, come on.
(Randy laughs)
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