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there are any it what did there was
it personal undone carries your take on this whole plant
this company this there this five-year old who just killed his two-year-old
sister with his
cricket my first gone these companies that are manufacturing and selling guns
marketing them expose i have a very much
b_b_ guns although b_b_ guns do kill kids as well
uh... but
good twenty-two snow which
her right quite lethal
to children as children's
slash li tell there's been seventy four seventy five children killed
uh... with gun accidents since uh... since nato
and on a inherited here's where the gun industry is
when guns are made they're made to last
three lifetimes note was if you were to go back and get your great-great
great granddad he's forty five caliber it would still fire today
uh... it's if so what the industry has to do is they have to figure out other
ways to sell guns in one way they do is by designing new guns you know but in
different colors of the guns no design expendable product i kept it in a
cigarette exactly's matter fact indians but good analysis there was a cat there
was a uh... uh... accompany one time to make tractors willy maybe tractor
so so
so well
the tractor never wore out in the company went esnips
because they can sell more tractor i see i had planned obsolescence but if you
have planned obsolescence and a gun
and that gun starts you know after uh... you know the very active
fired do twenty thousand rounds out at his side
just blowing up in your hand or something you get a real serious problem
you out well what was so the the art is a to expand the market it because of the
design of the gun
they have to go after children is but just like the cigarette industry
did i mean we handled the case against the cigarette industry
and the effort uh... they by the time we actually finish that case
the um...
if the industry had devoted thirty five percent of their advertising budget
to fourteen to twenty year olds
and that's the same thing here the idea is to get children come through with me
comfortable with a gun
two were becomes part of kind of their lifestyle
and date matter fact the same advertising the the same madison avenue
ideas about how to do that
are being used
both with the gun industry and with the tobacco industry so
it's the same people calling the same shots uh... there they've got as far as
is you know now they have
you can buy your child as shooting arrange inside the house and put
set up inside your house
to where they can take their b_b_ gun and shoot b_b_ guns inside their house
note no discussion about the fact that the bb gun has a muzzle velocity that's
even more than a twenty-two no discussion about the fact that this
twenty-two fitness twenty gun called the chipmunk has exactly the same caliber
that assassins used
to kill people
so i mean the the but the industry is shameless about this uh... you know when
they're confronted
they come out and say now we have no designed that day that three or four job
press releases just in the last month
we have no designed to start selling more guns two children but then you look
at her conduct it's overwhelming that that's where they're headed
so
what do we do about this
well i mean you do the same thing you can get you always do with that is
something that is is is horrendous is this
and that is you've raised hell about it because obviously we have a congress
that will not help in cell the only thing to do is is to continue what you
and i do every day
and then hope that the people listening to the program take what they see here
indeed tweet it out
or they'd go on face book and they talk about that on face book the only way
you'd you newcomb please this is from a groundswell
uh... if i would think back about one of the
who didn't real truly meaningful things that president obama has said
uh... in the last several years he says
that you don't change washington from the inside you change it from outside
dot
and and he's living is living proof of that he doesn't change anything
from the inside and so it's up to us
to change it from the outset yeah its movement politics that has always
produce every significant change no politician has really ever done anything
in america without
all our people pushing a really really hard time
well says that the other things on your radar that you'd like to kick around her
well i mean there's so much there there's there's so much happening i have
of the story that
uh... you know that this this kidnapping story talaga been watching the media
here today uh... with the way that kidnapping stories taking place
and they're missing the whole idea of how all this came about they're missing
the idea
of the police work that was actually done in cleveland and help the fed ic
that police work was
yeah annual yo must ask yourself the further i look at these facts the
further you take a look at these facts
he almost arts saying this double standard
in the way that the police work was done on one side of the tracks as opposed to
well how is settled on the other side of the tracks
and i think what what gave me
the the most uh... interest in really looking at that was when i saw of the
cleveland police officers with their arms around the mothers that had had to
suffer this for it
in nine ten eleven years
and then we find out just basic things we find out that the
the child of the
kidnapper
was actually a best friend of one of the children there was kidnapped
and there's no uh... you you can take a look at the rio etc at the history and
you find that there was no effort to even talk
to the child of the kidnapper although
well that shot of the kidnapper was the last person to be with the child
who was kidnapped
it's stuff is
basic is that a new look at this and i happen to be surrounded by some of the
best investigators in in in the world many of whom you've you met when you
were in in our los vegas program may work for me
and we talked about this and concluded that it this has to be the worst
police work
that we've seen in in recent history what if i if i could take a step further
back in ninety four and then i was ranting about this just in some links
i'll be very brief
back in ninety four bill clinton let's put a hundred thousand cops on the
street like beat cops and than any sort of the program called the cockpit crew
community outreach uh... police the this something whatever estee lauder any
service cops program and funded it handed visits likability had become a
billion dollar program
the last two years the republicans have funded at zero rahi funds for here in
d_c_ for any administration for this program
and cut this thing back to dc to nipple oc grants that are very very small ends
but he we had a hundred-thousand itial beat cops on the street
when you've got
community policing where he had people in town where were you know the name of
the cop was walking down the street every day and you get to know these
people like you know your mailman
then
the police in the community have a relationship a sympatico that i think
that she works
and instead what the republicans are doing is they're trying to cut the
number of cops because these are unionized people dot for bed
man instead
pump up the amount of money
then they're gung ho for pumping up money that goes to the big weapons
manufacturers so that the cops and more high-tech toys
this this story to me uh... you know of course the uh... cope corporate media
handles the story with the same way they do a story like this rather than talking
about
what does it mean culturally what is it mean from a social standpoint in the way
that we analyze what occurred here
they they would give the salacious aspect of it uh... that that the
demagogue issues the
of this role kinds of issues residence inn
what really happened here why is it
that this police work was so
why is it that had this happen just
fifteen miles down the road ten miles down the road
it would have looked completely different and i was a more affluent area
they would have interviewed the child out of the kidnapper yes it's it's
textbook tom if you order
calling of your friends have been in the investigation business for any length of
time
they will tell you at least begin by talking to that
the person who last salt the child
they didint even do that here
i think this is a tragedy in so many in so many ways but that's one if we
ignored is in the media
it'll be a huge tragedy
so that the failure of the
just basic kind of police work one along
uh... i hate you know i'm still i'm still blood
i answer group
and
i think that the
community policing rather than more mutant ninja turtles in swat teams
is also part of the solution that you have somebody if there were if it was
really part of the people involved walking
that they would have noticed something with this house long ago in my paper
might have a tiny basically what happened