AND RUSSIAN VIOLENCE.
REPORTING ON THE INHUMANITY,
THE BRUTALITY AND THE HORROR
THAT HAS PLAYING OUT ACROSS THE
COUNTRY JOINING US NOW IS
ISABELLE KHURSHUDYAN, A
WASHINGTON POST FOREIGN
CORRESPONDENT WHO'S BEEN
REPORTING FROM UKRAINE FOR THE
PAST TWO AND A HALF MONTHS.
ISABELLE, IT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU
AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR JOINING
US.
WE JUST QUOTED FROM YOUR
REPORTING ON THE BOMBING OF THE
HOSPITAL IN MYKOLAIV.
I NEEDED TO TELL US MORE ABOUT
THIS, TELL US ABOUT THE
PATIENTS AND THE MEDICAL STAFF
AND HOW THEY'RE ABLE TO COPE IN
THIS TYPE OF ENVIRONMENT WHICH
IS UNFORTUNATELY AS YOU WERE
REPORTING BECOMING COMMON
ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
>> YEAH, YOU IT'S REALLY
STRIKES ME NOW WHEN YOU GO TO
THE SITE OF SOME OF THESE
BOMBINGS AND ATTACKS IS.
JUST RIGHT AWAY, PEOPLE HAVE
THIS KIND OF YOU KNOW NUMBNESS
AS THEY JUST START TO CLEAN UP
THE SCENE.
WHEN WE GOT THERE, PEOPLE
VOLUNTEERS AND HOSPITAL STAFF
ARE JUST WEEPING OF GLASS.
I MEAN, SWEEPING UP AREAS THAT
HAD BEEN THEIR OFFICES, THEIR
WARDS, THINGS OF THAT SORT.
SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, THEY WERE,
THERE'S KIND OF THESE ATTACKS
HAPPEN, THEY EXPECT HIM AT THIS
POINT.
AND RIGHT AWAY, THEY START TO
CLEANUP.
THAT HOSPITAL GOT LUCKY THAT
EVERYONE WAS EVACUATED IN TIME.
AND NO ONE WAS SERIOUSLY
INJURED.
BUT ONE WOMAN, SHE'D COME TO
THE HOSPITAL WITH HEART
CONDITION.
EVEN SAID TO HER, I CAN'T
IMAGINE THIS WAS GOOD FOR YOUR
HEART.
THE STRESS OF THIS.
AND SHE SAID, I'M TOO SCARED TO
STAY HERE AT THE HOSPITAL, I'D
RATHER GO HOME.
AND THAT'S WHERE THAT BECOMES
REALLY HEARTBREAKING IS THAT
EVEN A HOSPITAL BECOMES UNSAFE.
IT'S A PLACE THAT UKRAINIANS
NOW EXPECT TO BE TARGETED.
AND THEY'RE AFRAID TO BE THERE,
EVEN IF IT'S, THEY NEED TO BE
THERE FOR THEIR HEALTH.
>> THERE'S SOMETHING IN YOUR
REPORTING WAS VERY SIMILAR TO
WHAT RICHARD ENGEL HAD FROM
BUCHA.
YOU REPORT ON THE EXPERIENCES
OF UKRAINIAN RESIDENTS LIVING
IN THE VILLAGES AROUND
MYKOLAIV.
WHERE RUSSIANS, WERE, AND EVEN
ASKING THEM WHERE THE NAZIS
LIVE.
AND I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THIS
IS SOMETHING THEY'RE REALLY
TRYING TO GET OUT OR WHETHER
THIS IS PART OF THE PROPAGANDA
THAT THE SOLDIERS WERE GIVEN
WHEN THEY INVADED UKRAINE.
BUT THEY'RE GOING AROUND AND
LOOKING FOR NAZIS, THEY SAY.
>> YEAH, EVERYONE WE TALKED TO
SAID, THE RUSSIANS WERE ASKING,
WHERE ARE THE NAZIS, WHERE ARE
THE --
WHICH WAS A GROUP THAT WAS
UKRAINIAN ACTUAL GROUP THAT WAS
FORMED IN WORLD WAR II.
THEY WERE LOOKING FOR PEOPLE
DRESSED IN BLACK.
IN A LOT OF RESIDENTS THAT WE
TALKED TO IN THESE AREAS, THESE
ARE SMALL TOWNS AND VILLAGES,
AN HOUR NORTH OF NIKOLAI OF.
THERE WERE OCCUPIED FOR ABOUT
TEN DAYS.
THOSE PEOPLE KIND OF LOOKED AT
THEM, AND THE RUSSIAN SOLDIERS
AND SAID, WE HAVE NO PEOPLE
LIKE THAT HERE.
WE DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE
TALKING ABOUT.
AND THEIR IMPRESSION WAS THAT,
THOSE SOLDIERS HAVE BEEN KIND
OF ALMOST BRAINWASHED BY THIS
KREMLIN FALSE PROPAGANDA THAT'S
BEEN USED TO JUSTIFY THIS
UNPROVOKED WAR.
>> THE RUSSIAN TROOPS ARE
TRYING TO MAKE THEIR WAY WEST,
ALONG SOUTHERN UKRAINE.
MYKOLAIV HAS BEEN A POINT AT
WHICH THEY'VE BEEN STOPPED.
THEY WERE PLANNING TO OTHERWISE
BE IN ODESSA, THE BEAUTIFUL
PORT CITY OF ODESSA.
THE BIGGEST POUR IN THE COUNTRY
ON THE BLACK SEA.
YOU HAVE SPENT A LOT OF TIME
REPORTING ON ODESSA.
IT'S WHERE YOUR PARENTS WERE
BORN.
TELL US WHAT IT'S LIKE, WOULD
IT WAS LIKE TO BE THERE AND HOW
THAT PORT CITY IS DOING RIGHT
NOW.
EVERYBODY THERE IS EXPECTING
THAT THE WORST IS STILL YET TO
COME.
>> YEAH, ODESSA IS, FOR THE
MOST PART LIKE THERE HAS
RETURNED TO NORMAL FOR
NORMAL-ISH I GUESS AS NORMAL
THINGS CAN GET IN A WAR.
THERE ARE, YOU KNOW, STILL
MILITARY CHECKPOINTS AND A
HEAVY MILITARY PRESENCE.
BUT EVEN THE ZOO IS OPEN
NOWADAYS.
SALONS ARE OPEN, RESTAURANTS
ARE OPEN.
BUT AT THE SAME TIME, PEOPLE
KNOW THAT THAT SURPRISED FOR
RUSSIA.
THERE WERE AIRSTRIKES RECENTLY
IN THE FUEL DEPOTS THERE.
I THINK, PEOPLE ARE NERVOUS, I
THINK THEY ARE KIND OF SCARED
AS THIS WAR APPEARS TO BE
SHIFTING EAST AND SOUTH.
AND NOW WE'RE SEEING MYKOLAIV
COME UNDER MUCH HEAVIER
ATTACKS.
I THINK THERE IS KIND OF A PUSH
THAT PEOPLE MYKOLAIV ARE
STARTING TO FEEL WHERE WE'RE
SEEING MORE CLUSTER MUNITIONS,
MORE ATTACKS IN BROAD DAYLIGHT
THAT SEEM TO BE KIND OF
PURPOSELY TARGETING CIVILIANS.
AND SO, THOSE PEOPLE EVACUATING
TO ODESSA.
AND YOU KNOW, AS YOU MENTIONED,
I HAVE FAMILY THERE, MY FAMILY
IS FROM THERE, MIGRANTS AND HAS
THEIR.
AND I'M OF THE MORNING OF THOSE
AIRSTRIKES.
ON THE FUEL DEPOTS, MIGRATE
AUNT WAS LIKE, MAYBE YOU SHOULD
LEAVE.
THAT'S NOT REALLY HOW MY JOB,
WORKS MY JOB IS TO STAY AND
DOCUMENT WHAT HAPPENS.
BUT, IT'S A WEIRD FEELING THERE,
BECAUSE ON THE SURFACE LOOKS
VERY NORMAL BUT PEOPLE ARE
GETTING NERVOUS AS KIND OF IT
SEEMS THAT AREA IS GOING TO
COME INTO PLAY SOON.
>> IT IS, IT'S NOT JUST VERY
HARD, IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO PUT
YOUR FEELINGS ASIDE AS A
JOURNALIST WE ARE COVERING THE
STORY LIKE THIS.
WHEN YOU HAVE YOUR HEART AND IT
BECAUSE YOU'RE HURT YOUR
FAMILIES ACTUALLY THERE, THAT
IS A CHALLENGE AND WE THANK YOU