the
from one I will let's get this conversation started with my first
question on the bus
this is a this is a good one will teller speak tonight
yeah the
what what's the origins of
a not speaking to what where where did that started where did that come from
for me it was it was a rebellion against magic patter which always seemed to me
silly or insulting in some way you know who would be
a you know here I have a rabbit
well thats generally obvious to the spectator or
it would be something like you know a thirteen-year-old kid saying
I am I am two hundred years old
and and traveled through time to entertain you here
I was actually a line that I had in my me in my act when I was about 13
a and I realized later how embarrassing that was
and so is certain is that and then um
I became interested in the idea lying without speaking
a the in a presenting presenting ideas presenting
and actions in such a way that the audience themselves had to lie to
themselves about what they were
and then that effort did that for a while I began to discover that it was a
really good discipline tactic
you know if I would play way we play a rough circumstance
if I tried to shout people down i mean just look at me you know your
overwhelmingly
up but if I came in and undercut that
and just put you know some bright lights on me and turned all the rest the lights
off and it creepy stuff
a people and people attended to it and then finally in the last few years I
realize that it's an amazingly
intimate way to communicate with a group of people because if you don't have the
comfort
up conversation you have this this moment where you have to really look at
someone and they have to look back at you
and that's tremendous feeling of intimacy time about this
this broadway show on what what can we expect in
in this that been 15 years since you're there when what
what what can we expect more you know we tried to do in this is kinda you know
we're getting week at all
and we we've been on Vegas now for
you know over twenty years within the same theater we're now the
longest-running
headliners in Vegas history handjob
how that have know of
it seems like all I have to really do in life is not want to do something I have
great deal of success
of I don't want to really go to broadway didn't really go to Vegas to remove your
magic doing fine
arm but I'll
so for this show you know in Vegas most
up all performers in Vegas they the
they get a show together somewhere else
usually in in Vegas nowadays is the the New Yorker Montreal
and they get a show together and they get a great deal of success for that
show
the name move it to Vegas and it just stays there I
there's no very little economic pressure
to change shows in Vegas because the audience is changing to a collector
touring
without moving so people keep the show's identical for
twenty years in Vegas are we did not go to Vegas for that reason so we're always
some writing new stuff because we work together
in order to write together I mean I I i don't have
is much interest in the performing as I do in the in the writing and sweet
we try to put new stuff in all the type but this time coming back to broadway
and having been forty years working together and having a been so long as
we've been on broadway
up we decide to really put together a a
kinda the the ultimate Penn and Teller show not a greatest hits
not the most popular stuff the stuff that
kinda swarm together just kinda right so this is we're trying to do
with the show the definitive Penn and Teller show so that if we
if we die in the plane crash in the way back we've kinda
wrapped it up very very nicely for the TV movie
have all I'm hoping for that it is not on lifetime
but all he wanted was for his biography not to be a lifetime please
what one dying wish she begged us all
so much about magic has to do with Sourav
the macabre and and cheating
death when a 14- or 15-year-old boy
I'll or girl becomes obsessed
with the with them a call a bit scary stuff in
a you put rubber cement on their face in they can look like they're horrible burn
victims
a how shallow and ignorant of humanity do you have to be
to think that that person is celebrating death the person is celebrating life are
by
by acting out exploring and faking
arm def suffering in pain
you are firming life you're saying a healthy
fourteen-year-old and this has not happened to me
all horror movies all scary movies are
affirmation of life would people come to our show
we're trying to make the visual and the intellectual
crash as violently as possible
that is the purpose up all art but certainly magic and probably the purpose
of all life
are you friends offstage do you do you hang out
after snow I'm meanwhile
not much I mean we probably go out socially
twice a year maybe you see a movie years
kinda but you know it's a it just turns out it's been 40 years
it turns out that the respect is more durable than affection
arm and would tell I first met there was no sort of cuddly
friendship that happened was always very very the
intellectual trying to do good stuff so consequently I did I think when
McCartney
fell in love and Goulburn Solomon fell in love certainly Martin Lewis fell in
love
the first time things or good yeah
it's heartbreaking are we've only cared about the show
we've always wanted
do the show the best we could now that being said
when my Mike children were born are teller
was you know the first one into to meet them and when our parents died
we were the first ones each other's talk to women over the years
you know my daughter Moxie you somewhere here was very concerned cuz you want to
make sure that
you know teller was my BFF and
that had to be clear to her and she's right teller is mean over those years
we have become very close friends we don't socialize much because we care
about is the show
yeah and also if you're if you're very good friends with somebody
you may be afraid to fight with them mom and
I don't believe it's worth having a a creative partner
if the creative partner agrees with you I meet you you really must
find someone who is going to take you someplace where you you are not going to
go
%um me might not even be willing to go but who can who can
struggle and get to the better idea instead of just the one that's very easy
to
to accommodate your the
no