i know that there will be many people
who are relieved
and uh perhaps quite a few who will also
be disappointed
and i want you to know how sad i am
to be giving up
the best job in the world
that them's the brakes there's got to be
an absolute breakdown of trust around
that cabin at the table i mean there was
a farcical situation i saw with um one
of his new cabinet
ministers who was out in the channel for
your news yesterday saying he has a
spectacular lack of judgment and he has
to go and today he's sitting around the
cabinet table
yeah
he's he's going because of his own
ineptitude uh he's
no relationship with the truth it's his
personality that eventually caused his
downfall where with me it was uh you
know it was europe it was electoral
becoming electoral liability and all
that the same with thatcher and other uh
prime ministers so from that point of
view the prospect of he's sitting around
the cabinet table with ministers who
have no confidence in it most of whom
have no confidence in them until october
is uh it's it's it's pretty horrifying
in ways now it depends on what happens
within the 1922 uh group and we know
that next week but uh
i wouldn't trust him you wouldn't see
him for the summer in number
10 downing street well would you trust
him to go fiona like there isn't a very
clear exit strategy at this point i know
it's all you know happened within the
last 24 hours but there are some
question whether he will go and go
easily look we don't know what stunts he
might put in the intervening period i i
disagree on the the notion that people
can't sit down and do business i mean
the leader of finagle and the kenny
now later went on the six one news um
about
14 years ago and said that he didn't
believe that and kenny was the person to
lead the country
uh you know he was quite strong in that
he went back in the front branch the
following week and he served as a
minister under him for five years i
think you know politicians have a great
ability to to park those personal views
and get and realize that i think the
things
the reason they have no confidence in
him that he's incapable of telling the
truth that's one of the reasons
it was his capacity to lead the party
and more importantly to win the next
general election yeah but an
incapability of telling the truth is
almost something that we've gone to
expect from most modern politicians at
the moment
no it is i'm looking at you in a
one-to-one that's not a valid comment
when you look at the likes of trump and
you look at the likes of johnson right
you're taking the extremes that's the
book no but the thing is they had the
two most people
no absolutely and a lot of my friends
work in politics i'm not having a pop
up of politicians what i'm saying is
that the general public
attitude towards politicians at the
moment is that we're not really
surprised when they lie when people
voted for johnson when they got behind
him they knew a bit like trump and it's
there's a very lazy and easy comparison
to make between the two but you weren't
voting for your parish priest or your or
your spiritual pastor you were voting
for somebody who was going to get the
job done and you were home
and you were holding on hold on
you were holding your nose look i don't
i don't care if i have a doctor i don't
care what their bedside manners like i
don't care about their integrity i just
want to make sure that they can do the
job kathleen it would be helpful
i do think you need to have integrity to
be in politics and that was one of the
things that struck me not only does he
seem very arrogant but i think he really
lacks all integrity and even
just the embarrassment for his own party
the way he's like you know just kind of
really slowly uh
backing out you know he just hasn't even
done the right and honorable thing come
out say he's go and you know give a
proper timeline it's all sort of kind of
smoke and mirrors with them so i don't i
don't agree with i don't agree with the
statement either people have have come
to accept or expect that you know
there's a lack of integrity or lack of
honesty with politicians but i do think
personalities like johnson and trump
because he was mentioned they do damage
politics and the whole political scene
and it's part of the reason i feel as
well sometimes you don't get engagement
maybe from younger people in certain
sections of society because it's like
this oh look a little bit expensive
and when people like you know when when
you do something and you're wrong i
think you have to be able to come out
and say that stand over it and step down
depending on what the situation is i
think that has been has been lost when
you see personalities like that i mean
how many different allegations and he's
still hanging in there back in here
his legacy just doesn't want to wonder
what boris's legacy is going to be did
he get brexit done and how do you think
ultimately will he be remembered here in
ireland
well he'd be remembered here in ireland
as as the person who jeopardized our
long
sought after peace process and that's
the danger now is that his legacy still
continues there he will continue to
advance that notion that the northern
ireland protocol should be should be
broken up we're already seeing today
that some of the hard line brings the
tears saying they will want to know
where individual candidates for the
leadership stand on issues like northern
earned for example the the former
northern ireland secretary teresa villar
is one of the worst people to hold that
office ever in the history of the state
but she was saying today i want to know
so you're going to have a block within
the conservatives who who are going to
be ensuring that their whoever is is
making it into that final too is going
to have to be crystal clear where they
stand on breaks
you