Can I get a high five?
I made her laugh!
I got too excited there.
Cuckoo!
And, I'm Arron Burriss,
and welcome to Job Hoppers!
Have you ever thought about changing jobs?
But not sure if you like the new one versus the one you're at right now,
Well, you're at the right place!
Because I'm going to be interviewing a lot of people
who do a lot of different jobs, to find out what's out there
and what you might like.
Hello Georgia,
Land of the Peaches. Shout out to Marietta,
One of the largest suburbs here in Atlanta.
And down these steps over here is Ariel's house.
She is an instructional designer.
And, I guess that means she's going to be teaching us stuff about design.
You know what? Let's go find out.
Hello?
Hi, Ariel. -Yes!
I’m Aaron,
nice to meet you. - Nice to meet you.
All right, so what are we doing today?
Well, right now we're running late,
so I need your help.
Yeah.
If you would sit with them, I'm going to serve them breakfast really quick.
Hi, I'm Aaron.
Oh, that's a firm handshake.
Oh, hey, how's it going?
- I’m Jovan Nice to meet you.
What is on the plan for today?
We are.. First -
We're going to drop them off at school.
Okay. - Sound good?
Yes.
And then we're going to work.
Are we working at school?
- No. We're going to go home, and then work.
You got to work with me.
You guys want me to go to school with you?
I definitely just go to school with you if you want.
Okay.
So what do you need me to do? I'm here to make your life easier.
They need socks and shoes.
- Okay, let's go. Let's go!
You wanna wear these?
There we go.
Come on. Go! Race, race, race, race, race.
All right.
Do these light up?
- I’ve got a sweater too.
Oh, a sweater! Do you want to-
You want one of these? I'm tall, so I can grab it.
All right, team, let's go.
- Let’s head out!
Did you know your mom used to be a teacher?
What did you teach in high school?
Broadcast journalism.
My students were for 9th through 12th grade,
and I would teach them in different levels how to start their own news show.
And we would broadcast to the school.
We had a weekly variety show.
How do you, like, get the cheerios
out of car seats?
Oh, I'm so excited to see your school.
Oh, are we here?
- We are.
We made it!
Bye!
All right,
where to next?
We are off to work.
Off to work.
Okay, we are doing great.
Let's go to work.
Where do we work?
We're going this way, to our home office. - This way?
Yep. - Alright, cool.
Oh, you guys actually work together, but not together.
You're like, two and a half, three feet away from each other.
Yeah. - That must be nice.
Yeah. Most of the times - It’s pretty cool.
He says I talk too much.
Is that true? - Sometimes.
I wouldn't answer that.
So, you work for CPR?
CPR by Assurant.
And what is it that you do again?
I am an instructional designer.
Meaning that you teach design?
No, not exactly.
So, instructional design is a person
who is a designer, and helps design learning platforms.
So, a part of my job is designing the platform that teaches our employees.
Oh.
If there is a new phone or a new update,
we have to teach our employees how to utilize the software.
It might be repairing these phones.
Oh, so you design the course that they're teaching?
Yes.
You help teach the people who help teach people.
Yes.
Okay! That's great. That makes sense.
So what you do now has a lot to do with UX design.
Absolutely.
Ah, and UX is user experience.
Yep, that's it.
See? I know stuff.
Do you guys put like people's like psychology into it, and like color theory
and all that? - Absolutely.
Yes. It's funny that you mentioned that. Color theory is huge.
When you use certain colors, they bring about certain moods.
So blue is calming,
- Oh.. red is high energy,
it brings alert.
So like a stop sign.
Yes, exactly. That's it. - Oh!
Does that work with wives, and girlfriends
and significant others too?
You know, haven't tried it.
So if I paint our whole house blue... our whole house is blue!
Is she using color theory on me?
These are our different design principles
that I use to make sure that I'm keeping the user in mind.
We want to make sure we guide the viewer's eyes.
That definitely uses color theory.
We make sure to keep things consistent.
We don't want to use something that may confuse a person.
So you don't want to distract them.
- Exactly. Okay.
Can you give me a breakdown of your day to day schedule?
Sure.
So usually I start my day with meetings, and then after that, I'll block
some time, maybe a couple of hours.
Right now I'm working on a huge project for cell phones.
Right after that, I will usually take some time for myself.
So that might be lunch, grabbing a coffee or taking a walk.
Which reminds me, I have another meeting right before lunch.
- Oh, really? Yeah.
So you said that you like anime?
Yeah, man I love anime. - Oh, me too.
All right, so I'm headed for lunch.
Lunch?
Hold on!
So what is your idea for lunch?
So, I actually know a really cool taco truck.
Alright! Let's go.
Like, how hot are we talking?
Level ten hot. - Level ten?
Level ten hot.
Hmm, it’s good! - I think you're sweating a little bit.
A little bit?
Okay, so while I process this heat,
you started off as a teacher? - Yes.
And now you're here today. How did that happen?
I had my son.
I was looking for a better work life balance.
I found out about these Google certificate programs,
- Cool!
and the one that jumped out to me the most was the UX design courses.
- You doing okay? I am so good.
- Do you mind if I get a napkin?
It's not because of the hot sauce,
it's just the heat
Right, right.
So once you got your certificate, how many jobs did you apply for,
and how many jobs did you not get until you got the one you got?
I applied for over 100.
Over 100? - Job roles.
Part of the reason that it was difficult for me
at first was that I wasn't quite sure which lane I wanted to go in.
So, user experience is not just design,
it could be interaction, motion graphics,
content development, or instructional design like I do now.
Where would you say you see yourself in three years?
I think I could see myself running my own team, and I love to help
younger UX designers grow in their careers too.
I think I could definitely see myself mentoring.
I think you could too.
I mean, as many things as you handle, I definitely see that as being
a possibility for you.
I've always wanted to get into birdwatching.
Chirp Chirp!
So you make it a point to come out here every day?
- Yeah, I do.
I think it's really important for me, especially being in front of a computer
all the time, to disconnect a little bit.
You guys ever climb trees?
I don't.
- What?
I've never climbed a tree in my entire life.
- Should we change that today?
Come on, let's find a tree here.
Ah!
- Is that a vine?
Stop it!
I think I'm really close to understanding everything.
- Okay.
But, I think I need something like visual, something tangible to really get
like a good grasp on it.
Okay, well, I definitely can help you.
- Okay.
But, it's got to be something that you care about.
Camping!
Okay, sure.
So, the first thing we need to do is figure out exactly what we need.
Um, a tent!
- All right, let's start a list.
Okay, first thing is tent.
Okay? - And then we need...
Oh, we need a fire.
- Sure.
For sure. And with a fire, you need s'mores.
- Okay. Now, let's break this down just a little bit more.
You have a tent? - Yes.
What do you need to make that tent happen?
Um, supplies to make the tent. - Right.
All right, so then, now we have a list. - Yes.
And we turn this list into what's called a wireframe.
We're getting started with just basic squares and lines.
Okay.
What shape do you think our tent should be?
Um, triangle.
All right.
What color should it be?
Red. Because you said red sticks out.
- Yes. So red.
Okay. And what else do we need? We need
a hammock.
- A hammock.
So I say we put the cooler next to the fire
like we can make it like a little kitchen area.
- Okay.
Yeah. - The kitchen.
Yes, I like this.
It's all coming to place. - Yes.
So, this would be the start or foundation for any web app or website.
Yeah, but instead we're doing a campsite.
- Campsite.
All right, so let's bring this to life.
VO: Ariel and Aron's Instructional Campsite.
VO: Tent Instructions:
VO: Step One - Place the tarp underneath the tent.
VO: Step Two - Place the tent on top of the tarp.
VO: Step Three - Place yourself inside the tent.
VO: Firepit:
VO: A firepit is essential for keeping oneself warm
VO: and imbuing good cheer.
VO: Food Prep Area:
VO: Step One - Eating is essential to survival.
VO: Step Two - After laying down your picnic blanket, unpack your dinnerware and food.
VO: Leisure area:
VO: Relaxation is mandatory.
VO: Pinatas are optional.
We did it!
Website turned campsite, and it's all thanks to your wireframe.
Thank you so much.
Of course.
So, any advice you'd give someone who wants to get into your field?
I would tell anyone that's looking to be a UX designer
that all you have is all you need.
Your background and experiences make you the perfect person to help others.
Oh, you're such a sweet person. Honestly,
thank you so much for having me.
Your home’s great. Your family's great.
You're great.
- Thank you. You're an amazing teacher.
- Thanks. I'm very sleepy.
And I’m gonna go to bed.
Good night.
I guess I never really thought about the layout of apps.
How you actually have to spend a lot of time figuring out where to put things
for a good user experience.
Like how to tell a story, how people absorb information.
You know, I think I'd be good at that.
I’m just gonna...
Okay, we’re good.
Hey, Ariel?
Will you read me a good night story?
Hello?