Kids in Satsang with Mooji
Tiruvannamalai 7th January 2010
[music]
God is everywhere
[Questioner 1] How did God come?
[Mooji] How did God come.
If you say, 'God comes', maybe you must have seen God.
You say, 'How did he come?' Meaning he came.
He comes. So you see God?
[Q.1] No.
[M.] So how do you know he came or not?
[Q.1] No.
[Mooji] You can say this God is everywhere, actually.
But the reason why we don't see the God
is we're thinking God is something else.
Then you don't see Him.
[Q.1] I know God is everywhere because my mother told me.
[M.] You know that God is everywhere because Mum told you.
Believe Mum. [laughter]
If you know that there is nothing else but God.
If you understood this, that everything is That.
Everything is what we call God.
Even this is God. And the touching of this is God.
You are God. I am God. All of these beings, they're God.
The air is God. The space is God. The light, the fan, everything is God.
Even your ability to think, even to ask the question.
God is asking this question.
[silence, laughter]
[Q.1] If we're God, how does God get...
If God doesn't die, how do we get to die?
[Mooji] Aah! Good question.
Actually, we don't really die. Our bodies die. Actually, we don't die.
If you think you are the body, then the body will die.
We see here, India's a good place to see dead bodies.
You'll see the bodies.
Meaning that there's dead body, not a dead person.
There's dead body, there's no dead person.
It's just our way of thinking.
We think there's a dead person in the dead body.
In a dead body, there's not a dead person. There's just dead body.
There's not a person dead in the body. [laughter] There's a body.
The body's dead. The person-idea is gone.
What you really are, then, it says, 'OK, I'll leave this body now'.
It goes. Comes out. So you don't die, actually.
I'm sorry...
[Mooji] Good morning.
[Q.2] My question is that sometimes, with my Mum, I fight so much.
And when I fight, after the fighting, I get sad of her.
I want to give her a kiss, a hug, and sometimes I speak to myself,
'What I'm doing, it's not good to fight with my Mum'.
That's my question.
[Mooji] But is it a habit? Do you fight a lot?
[Q.2] Well, sometimes yes, because I've been naughty sometimes.
[M.] And you know when you're naughty? [Q.2] Yes.
[M.] And then she tells you off a little? [Q.2] Yes.
[M.] And then at this point, when she tells you off,
'This is not right, what you're doing',
is that when your naughtiness starts?
What happens? Is that when you start to fight? [Q.] Yes.
[M.] Because why are you fighting, if she's right about it?
[Q.2] Because sometimes I don't want to clean my teeth.
[M.] You don't want to? [Q.2] Clean my teeth.
[Mooji] You fight about that?
[Q.2] Yeah. Sometimes I want to go with my friends to play.
[Mooji] You want to go and play.
[Q.2] Yeah. And she doesn't let me.
[Mooji] But you better listen to your Mum now. [laughter]
If you feel she's a bit unreasonable, you can say,
'Mum, it feels a bit unreasonable. Please, could you explain?'
You can do this.
Maybe what she explains might satisfy you, and you think, 'OK, fine'.
But if you are clear you're fighting because something is troubling you
and it's not really what you are fighting about,
the thing she is saying, maybe it's something past.
Or is it just in that moment it's very quick, there's no time to think,
you find yourself fighting. Is it like this?
You already said you want to stop it.
[Q.2] Yes, but, I want to stop it but I can't. I can't do it.
[M.] You can't stop it? [Q.2] No.
[M.] But after, you feel badly about it? [Q.2] Umm-hmm.
[M.] When you feel badly about it,
do you go and say, 'Look, I'm sorry'. [Q.2] Yes.
[M.] It's OK then. [Q.2] Sometimes I wait until she says Sorry to me.
[M.] Aah! [laughter] We're all doing that. [laughter]
But if you can yourself say it first,
because I know sometimes it doesn't feel easy,
especially if you're holding onto something,
and a little bit of pride is in it,
and you feel if you admit you're in the wrong, or that you're sorry...
sometimes you see that maybe the fight
is really about nothing, it's silly.
Then first you go and say, 'Look, I'm sorry that I spoke like this'.
But it must genuine.
If you're really sorry, you say 'Sorry'.
If you don't feel sorry, don't say it.
It's good. If you feel sorry, say it.
If you don't feel sorry, don't say 'Sorry'.
Say, 'I still feel unhappy but I can't say I'm sorry. I don't know why.'
Things like this, it's a good point to then take the chance
to get to know each other better and be more close.
Just expressing what you're saying:
'I feel badly that I upset you, and I'm also upset,
but somehow I can't say 'Sorry' and I don't know why'.
This is honest.
It's not that you say, 'I'm sorry.' You're being honest.
You say, 'I don't know why I'm feeling like this
but I'm not feeling I'm wrong.
I don't feel to apologise, but I'm sorry that we fight.'
[Q.2] But sometimes I say 'Sorry' to my Mum and she doesn't accept it.
She says, 'Sorry is nothing. You don't say with your heart.'
[M.] Aah! She's right.
If you say it with your heart, meaning at least you're genuine,
you don't just say, 'Sorry! I'm sorry!'
She says, 'I don't accept your sorry. You're not sorry at all.'
And then you go, 'I'm s-o-r-r-y!'
And she says, 'I don't accept that also.
You're not coming from your heart.'
You can go to her and say, 'Look, Mum, I'm sorry about this'.
Then she will know when you're genuine
and you also will know when you're genuine.
And it's finished, and you both feel much better.
[Q.2] But she still doesn't understand me.
I say sorry with my heart, and she goes away.
She doesn't stay. She doesn't say, 'I appreciate you're sorry.'
[M.] I'll have a talk with her, OK? [laughter]
[M.] OK? [Q.2] Thank you, Mooji.
It's better to love than be 'right'... but don't pretend