final day of thihi S sreme court.
Judy: Let't's look deeper at thehe
climate change R ring.
Many E eironmental advocates
acknowledged todod the decision
in the EPA case is a aignificant
blow in the gogornment's efforts
to L lit greenhouse gases ininhe
near term.
Asase said, West Virginia a N
the casesefter a legal battle
over thehelean power plan.
First,t,et's hear from ththbiden
administration.
Mimiael Regan is the EPA
administrarar.
He joins me from new O oeans.
Administrator, thankk you very
much F F joining us.
Hohomuch of a setback is it for
your efforts to O gulate
greeeeouse gases?
>> Thank you for having me.
I am deeply disappointed in the
suprpre court's decision todod,
actually very frususated.
The decision doesesonstrain what
we do, but let me Bebe clear, it
doese't take us out of F E game.
Stillllill be able to
regulala climate pololtion and
we willlse allhe tools in our
toolboboto do so.
The cononraint we are seeing
today prevents as country
from making proroess as quickly
as we need to preview C mate
action presents an opportunini
for T ts country to assure
obal competitiveness,,ower
St for families S D protect
ople's health andnd well-being,
especially those who have
suffered from the burden N
action for F F too long.
Sosoes, today'sctions a
disappointntg action, it's
devastating ininany ways, as the
presidents said, butt
doesn't take us out of the G GE.
We will continue too have -- use
evevy tool we have to keeeepace
with thehelimate crisis.
Judy: Every option N T there
frfr now on is a little more
cumbersomemend more expensive
for the governmenen
from thahastandpoint, how much
of a setback isst?
>> We prideurselves in keeping
pace with the growing ecocomy
and techchlogical advances.
This doesn't cocotrain the
innovation that we couou S S
from theheower sector itstsf,
the constrtrnts are on how we
provide thehe rulul of the road
for long-term investmemes, but
lel's be clear, the susueme
court hahaalso C cstrained what
theower sector would likiko
do in terms of long-g-rm
investments and the utililition
of tececologies and programs
that could be E re expenenve and
more flexible E R the industry
itself.
So it is a a setback, a a we will
continue to evaluate thoroughly
what the supreme court actctlly
has said todod.
But let't's be clear, the
consnsaint does not take epepout
ofofhe game,nd we E ll
contntue to use everyryool in
our toolbox,ecause it I is under
our legal authorory a a it is
our obligation to protott
communities, a a provide
certainty and transpspency for
ththenergy sector to growwhe
cleaner R ergy economy.
Judy: Can you give E a C cple
of examples ofofhe kind of tools
you believe you S sll can use to
regulate this?
>>>> 1 1 we will cocoinue to look
at is the authority that wawa in
questiti with the supreme courtrt
again, thahatool is still
avavlable.
We''ve just lost some
flexexility, but we also havav a
suititof regulations that arar
facing the powerer sectoto
sosos we couple the regulation
of climate pololtion with the
regugution of health-based
pollution, were providing the
power sector W wh a very clear
pipiure of what regululions
they're facininso that they Canan
make the rigig investment
decisisis and W ware hoping that
when they look at the regulalaon
of waste and discharges inin
water,r,limate pollution, they
willllee that it is not wortrt
ininsting in the past, and they
wiwi continue to do what they
are doing now, which H invnvt
in thehe future.
>> Let me ask you U sobout the
cocose of what the C crt has
ruled, now that you're loooong
at a majajity conservative
court, how much dodo that
concncn you in terms of ststs
the EPA may Y ke in theuture
that are most likelylyo be
challenged either by the S STEs,
by state attorneys G geral, or
ototrs who O oose these efforts
by the government to imposos
regulationon
>> It really forces us S
contemplate how weweove forward
as Q qckly as possible,
cognizing that some
flexibililies have been taken
from us.
So it does inn pay -- impede thehe
progress, , tt does not
prevent ususrom continuing to
make progress.
We havavto be vigigant in terms
of focusing on climate C cnge
llution.
Wewe will also H he to continue to
dohat the presisint has asked
us to do, whicic is papaner with
every single cabinetetgency and
verage all the actions as a
whole of government.t.
We'veveot some opportunititi
ead ofs.
This is aetback, deeply
didippointing and frustrarang to
a certain N tent, but again, we
will use every T tl in the
totobox that we haveewo set and
implement enviroroental
stananrds that meet ourur
ligation to protect alaleople
in all comomnities from
environmental harm.
Judy: Mr. Adminisisator, where
about to talk with the
administratotoof the state of
west virgininiwhich was
instrumental I bringing the
case to the supreme cocot.
At would you say to himim as
mething you H he he and others
who brought thihicase would be
willing to look at as a way of
the government to makeke sure that
these plans are operatiti as
well as possibib?
I wouldlday that the E rkets
have alrlrdy spoken, and when
you look at the regulatatn that
was S question,n,hat never took
place, that theheupreme court
evaluated, the G gls of that
regulationonere met and E eeeded
years and years ago.
So thehe is proof that the
market is already movinin in this
direction, andnd it's our
obligation isshe government to
be able too provide some
certainty so T Ty can make
longer-term investmentnt
we will continue to O rk hard to
provide that certataty, so thaha
thpower sector can contitie to
make lononterm investments inn
clean enerer economy.