>> Stephen: WELCOME BACK, EVERYBODY.
MY NEXT GUEST TOOK SECOND PLACE IN LAST WEEK'S NEW HAMPSHIRE
PRIMARY, DESPITE HAVING BEEN ENDORSED BY THE "NEW YORK
TIMES."
PLEASE WELCOME GOVERNOR OF OHIO, JOHN KASICH.
( APPLAUSE ) ♪ ♪ ♪
>> Stephen: CONGRATULATIONS ON COMING IN SECOND PLACE IN NEW
HAMPSHIRE.
>> WELL, YOU KNOW, I WON IN DIXVILLE, NOTCH.
I BEAT TRUMP WITH 60% OF THE VOTE.
( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ) >> Stephen: BUT THAT MEANS
THREE VOTES TO TWO.
OKAY.
>> EXACTLY!
>> Stephen: WHAT IS IT ABOUT THIS RACE?
I THINK RUBIO WAS CROWING AT BEING IN THIRD PLACE IN IOWA.
YOU'RE THRILLED AT BEING IN SECOND PLACE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE.
HOW IS LOSING WINNING?
>> WELL, LOOK, NOBODY-- REMEMBER WHEN I WAS HERE THE LAST TIME.
NOT A PERSON HAD A CLUE WHO I WAS.
>> Stephen: I KNEW.
THEY TOLD ME RIGHT BEFORE YOU WALKED ON.
>> EXACTLY.
( APPLAUSE ) AND WHAT HAPPENED IS NEW
HAMPSHIRE IS A PLACE WHERE YOU CAN KIND OF GET ON A ROCKET SHIP
AND BECOME KNOWN, AND IT'S REALLY-- IT'S REALLY HAPPENED.
SO I WENT TO SOUTH CAROLINA -- >> MY HOME STATE.
>> YOU KNOW WHAT'S INTERESTING IS THEY TOLD ME WHEN YOU LEAVE
NEW HAMPSHIRE AND GO TO SOUTH CAROLINA, EVERYTHING HAS TO
CHANGE.
YOUR MESSAGE HAS TO CHANGE.
MY MESSAGE HASN'T CHANGED ONE IOTA.
BRINGING PEOPLE TOGETHER -- >> ALL RIGHT, WELL, YOU'RE--
>> AMERICANS -- >> YOUR COMMUNICATIONS DIRECTOR
SENT ALONG A LITTLE BIT OF YOUR MESSAGE HERE.
I CAN ENCLASPALATE IT FOR A SECOND?
RUNNING A DIFFERENT CAMPAIGN THAN ANY OTHER CANDIDATE.
POSITIVE.
FOCUSING ON SOLVING PROBLEMS.
BRINGING PEOPLE TOGETHER, NOT DIVIDING.
SAYING YOU CAN'T BE POSITIVE AND WIN BUT HE'S DOING.
HE BELIEVES THERE'S HUNGENER AMERICA TO SOLVE OUR PROBLEMS.
PEOPLE IN AMERICA ARE RESPONDING TO IT.
NOW THAT I'VE SAID ALL THAT YOU CAN'T.
YOU HAVE TO ANSWER MY QUESTIONS NOW.
OKAY, OKAY?
I'VE SAID EVERYTHING.
OKAY.
( LAUGHTER ).
>> HE MISSED ONE, HE MISSED ONE.
>> Stephen: WHAT DID HE MIS?
>> WE NEED TO BE AMERICANS BEFORE WE'RE REPUBLICANS AND
DEMOCRATS TO FIX THE PROBLEM.
>> Stephen: I'LL JOIN OW THAT ONE.
( APPLAUSE ) LAST SUNDAY, LAST SATURDAY
NIGHT'S DEBATE YOU SAID THAT THAT DEBATE OR THESE DEBATES
HAVE BECOME DEMOLITION DERBIES.
BUT AMERICA'S THE CAR, RIGHT?
WHO COULD POSSIBLY WIN IN A DEMOLITION DERBY?
>> I SAID THERE WAS A DEMOLITION DERBY BUT MY CAR KEPT RUNNING
AROUND THE TRACK BECAUSE I AVOIDED IT.
STEPHEN, LOOK, PEOPLE ARE GETTING TIRED OF THE NEGATIVE.
IN NEW HAMPSHIRE I TOOK -- >> SHUT UP!
GOT A BIG LAUGH.
NOT TIRED OF IT YET.
>> BUT WE'RE NOT SURE THEY'RE VOTING FOR YOU OVER ME.
>> Stephen: THAT'S TRUE.
WOULD YOU VOTE FOR ME?
( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ) THAT'S NOT FAIR.
THAT'S NOT FAIR.
TRUMP-- TRUMP-- >> YOU DIDN'T ASK ABOUT ME.
>> Stephen: NO, NO, HE'S THE GUY-- WOULD YOU VOTE FOR HIM?
( CHEERS ) HEY!
THAT'S NOT BAD.
THAT'S A NEW YORK CROWD.
TRUMP VERY NEGATIVE.
CRUZ IS VERY NEGATIVE.
THEY'RE DOING FINE.
WHAT DO YOU MEAN PEOPLE DON'T LIKE THE NEGATIVE?
>> LOOK, I THINK PEOPLE WANT TO KNOW WHAT THE SOLUTION ARE.
I THINK THEY'RE NERVOUS ABOUT THEIR JOBS, AND THEY'RE WORRIED
ABOUT THEIR KIDS NOT HAVING A DECENT LIFE AND THE ABILITY TO
HAVE THE KIND OF LIFE THEY HAD.
>> Stephen: WHEN I LISTEN TO THE REPUBLICAN DEBATES IT SOUNDS
LIKE AMERICA IS JUST A BURNING DUMPSTER FIRE, AND IT DOESN'T
FEEL LIKE AMERICA IS THE BURNING DUMPSTER FIRE RIGHT NOW.
>> THE DEBATES ARE THE DUMBEST THINGS GOING.
( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ) I'LL TELL YOU WHY.
IT'S SORT OF LIKE EXPLAIN YOUR ENTIRE LIFE STORY IN 30 SECONDS.
HARRY TRUMAN COULDN'T GET ELECTED THIS WAY.
>> Stephen: HARRY TRUMAN WASN'T ELECTED THE FIRST TIME.
>> BUT HE WON REELECTION.
BUT MY POINT SIT'S SOUND BITES.
HOW ARE YOU GOING TO ELECT A PRESIDENT ON THE BASIS OF A
CLEVER SOUND BITE, ESPECIALLY IF THE SOUND BITE IS DESIGNED TO
ATTACK SOMEBODY ELSE.
LOOK, LET ME JUST TELL YOU SO YOU UNDERSTAND.
IF I CAN'T WIN BY BEING FUNDAMENTALLY POSITIVE, WHAT'S
THE POINT IN WINNING?
( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ) I MEAN, OUGHT TO WIN --
>> OKAY, SO WHAT'S THE POSITIVE MESSAGE?
THE POSITIVE MESSAGE THAT I'M HEARING SO FAR IS THAT I'M
POSITIVE.
BUT WHAT'S YOUR POSITIVE VISION FOR AMERICA?
>> LOOK, WE HAVE TO BALANCE BUDGETS, HAVE COMMONSENSE
REGULATIONS.
WE'VE GOT TO CUT TAXES -- >> SO SOME REGULATION IS OKAY.
YOU'RE RUNNING AS A REPUBLICAN AND SOME REGULATION IS OKAY.
>> LOOK, THE REPUBLICAN PARTY IS MY VEHICLE.
IT IS NOT MY MASTER.
( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ) IT HAS NEVER BEEN.
SO HERE'S THE THING, STEPHEN.
>> Stephen: BOOM, BOOM.
I GOT A MIC DROP ON THAT ONE.
THAT'S CRAZY.
>> HERE'S THE THING.
LOOK I WAS THE CHAIRMAN OF THE BUDGET COMMITTEE WHEN WE
BALANCED THE FEDERAL BUDGET.
WE HAD FOUR YEARS OF A BALANCED BUDGET.
WE PAID DOWN HALF A TRILLION OF A NATIONAL DEBT.
>> Stephen: THAT WAS UNDER A DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENT.
>> THAT'S RIGHT.
>> Stephen: SO YOU CAN WORK WITH A DEMOCRAT?
>> OH, YEAH, YEAH, YOU HAVE TO.
>> Stephen: SHOULD YOU BE ELECTED PRESIDENT?
IN THE LAST 330 DAYS YOU WERE IN OFFICE, IF A ADVOCACY BECAME
OPEN ON THE SUPREME COURT, WOULD YOU LOOK AT THE CONSTITUTION,
SEE THE WORDS, "THE PRESIDENT SHALL," AND GO, "MAYBE LATER?"
>> I'LL TELL YOU WHAT THE PROBLEM IS, AS SOON AS SCALIA
DIED, IT WAS ONE MINUTE AFTER HIS DEATH AND THE POLITICS
STARTED.
WE ARE SO DIVIDED DOWN THERE.
AND MY APPROACH IS THIS-- I'VE SAILED THE PRESIDENT OUGHT TO
WITHHOLD THIS AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE AN ELECTION --
>> WAIT, WE HAD AN ELECTION IN 2012.
>> CAN I FINISH?
>> Stephen: NO, PROBABLY NOT.
GO AHEAD.
>> ALL I'M SAYING IS IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR PEOPLE TO,
NUMBER ONE, VOTE FOR PRESIDENT, AND ALSO HAVE A SAY ON WHO'S
GOING TO BE ON THE SUPREME COURT.
IF I WERE PRESIDENT, JUST LIKE WHEN I'M GOVERNOR OF OHIO, YOU
HAVE TO BRING PEOPLE TOGETHER.
AND YOU CAN'T HAVE ALL THIS FIGHTING BACK AND FORTH LIKE WE
HAVE IN WASHINGTON.
LOOK, YOU CAN'T SOLVE THESE PROBLEMS, STEPHEN, SOCIAL
SECURITY.
YOU CAN'T SOLVE THE BORDER.
YOU CAN'T GET THE ECONOMY GROWING UNLESS YOU HAVE SOME
SENSE OF UNITY.
>> Stephen: SO IF YOU WERE PRESIDENT AND YOU WERE PRESIDENT
OBAMA, YOU WOULD SAY, "I WILL NOT APPOINT ANYONE."
>> NO-- WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE THIS DIVISION.
BECAUSE I'M GOING TO SPEND MY TIME BUILDING BRIDGES SO WE CAN
GROW THIS ECONOMY -- >> YOU SAID-- YOU SAID, IF I GOT
THIS RIGHT, YOU SAID THE PRESIDENT SHOULD NOT APPOINT
ANYONE UNLESS THEY COULD BE UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED.
>> I SAID ACCLAIMED-- STEPHEN, LOOK, THE PRESIDENT IS GOING TO
SEND THE NOMINEE UP.
>> Stephen: BUT NO ONE WILL BE UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED.
>> I'M TALKING ABOUT SOMEONE THE OVERWHELMING CONSENSUS SAYS
THAT'S THE PERSON WE WANT.
>> Stephen: WE WON'T EVEN GET THAT WITH THE PRESIDENT.
HOW CAN WE POSSIBLY GET.
( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ).
>> LOOK, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE AN ELECTION-- LET ME TELL YOU,
YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE AN ELECTION NOW IN BEFORE WE KNOW IT THE
BLINK OF AN EYE.
AND THAT PERSON WHO IS ELECTED PRESIDENT WILL HAVE THE
CONFIRMATION TO APPOINT WHOEVER THEY WANT, AND I THINK IT WILL
BE A MORE ORDERLY, LESPOLITICAL FIGHT THAN WHAT WE SEE NOW.
>> Stephen: YOU DON'T THINK THAT PRESENTLY EXISTS IN THE
CONSTITUTION WHEN IT SAYS, "THE PRESIDENT SHALL APPOINT."
>> NO, HE CAN'T APPOINT.
HE CAN NOMINATE.
AND THE SENATE CARRIES OUT THEIR RESPONSIBILITY.
>> Stephen: IT DOESN'T SAY THE PRESIDENT CAN DO IT IF IT'S NOT
HIS LAST YEAR.
IT SAYS, "THE PRESIDENT SHALL."
>> ALL I'M SAYING IS I'M TIRED OF ALL THE FIGHTING.
>> Stephen: I'M NOT FIGHTING WITH YOU.
>> I'M TALKING ABOUT DOWN THERE.
>> Stephen: IN SOUTH CAROLINA.
THEY LIKE FIGHTING DOWN THERE.
( LAUGHTER ).
>> WHAT I WANT TO DO IS HAVE RESPECT BETWEEN THE PARTIES
AGAIN.
I WANT THEM TO STOP DEMONIZING ONE ANOTHER, ANDIMENT TO AGAIN
TO HAVE EVERYBODY REMEMBER THAT WE HAVE TO PULL TOGETHER, IN MY
OPINION, WITH CONSERVATIVE PROGRAMS TO RAISE THE COUNTRY.
DIIT WHEN I WAS BUDGET CHAIRMAN, DIIT IN OHIO.
AND THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO DO AND I SEE THE FIGHTING OVER THE
JUDGE ISN'T GOING TO WORK OUT.
>> Stephen: GOOD LUCK, GOVERNOR.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE.