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LARRY: ALL RIGHT.
WE GOT LOTS TO DO WITH THE
DISTINGUISHED HOUSE MEMBER FROM
OHIO, MR. JIM JORDAN WHO
RETURNS.
I HAVE NOT SEEN, I GUESS HAPPY
NEW YEAR, I HAVEN’T SEEN YOU IN
SO LONG.
I THINK YOU’RE AVOIDING ME,
MR. JORDAN.
>> GOOD TO BE WITH YOU, LARRY.
NOT AT ALL.
LARRY: WONDERFUL TO SEE YOU
AGAIN.
JIM, LET ME START WITH, LOTS TO
ASK BUT WHY DO YOU SUPPOSE JUST
OFF THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD
JOE BIDEN IS OUT THERE
PREDICTING WHAT DAY THE RUSSIANS
ARE GOING TO WAR WITH THE
UKRAINE, ON ABOUT FIVE DIFFERENT
LEVELS I DON’T UNDERSTAND THAT.
>> NO, I DON’T EITHER.
I THOUGHT YOUR MONOLOGUE WAS
RIGHT ON TARGET BUT REMEMBER
THIS IS THE SAME FOREIGN POLICY
TEAM THAT GAVE US THE DEBACLE
THAT WAS THE EXIT FROM
AFGHANISTAN.
AND REMEMBER THESE SAME
INDIVIDUALS, JAKE SULLIVAN,
WENDY SHERMAN, BILL BURNS,
ANTHONY BLINK ENIN CHARGE DURING
THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION WITH
THE TRAGEDY IN BENGHAZI.
PROBABLY SHOULDN’T SURPRISE US.
SAD FOR THE COUNTRY, SAD FOR THE
WORLD, SHOULDN’T SURPRISE
THEY’RE MESSING THIS UP AS WELL.
YOU’RE RIGHT SANCTIONS SHOULD
HAVE BEEN ON RIGHT AWAY BUT WHEN
YOU START FROM THE WRONG
PERSPECTIVE FROM THE GET-GO,
PROJECTING WEAKNESS FROM THE
OVAL OFFICE PROJECTING WEAKNESS
ON THE NORD STREAM 2 PIPELINE
YOU CAN’T PROJECT WEAKNESS LIKE
THIS ADMINISTRATION SEEMS TO DO
EVERY SINGLE DAY.
LARRY: WE USED TO CALL THE U.S.
YEARS AGO AS THE PAPER TIGER.
THAT STUFF STARTED UNDER THE
CARTER ADMINISTRATION AND OF
COURSE THE SIMILARITIES BETWEEN
BIDEN AND CARTER ARE,
REGRETTABLY QUITE NUMEROUS.
>> REVOLVES AROUND ENERGY AS
YOU, ENERGY.
YOU TAKE THE RIGHT ENERGY POLICY
BECAUSE ENERGY IS THE KEY TO THE
ECONOMY, IT IS KEY TO WHY
INFLATION IS SO HIGH BECAUSE IT
RUNS THROUGH OUR ENTIRE ECONOMY.
WHEN YOU START FROM THE WRONG
PERSPECTIVE AND THE WRONG
STARTING POINT ON ENERGY YOU GET
THESE PROBLEMS.
AND OF COURSE WE DIDN’T HAVE
THIS UNDER PRESIDENT TRUMP
BECAUSE PRESIDENT TRUMP AND
SECRETARY OF STATE POMPEO
PROJECTED STRENGTH FROM THE OVAL
OFFICE, FROM THE WHITE HOUSE,
ALL THE TIME.
LARRY: YES THEY DID.
SO HILLARY CLINTON IS IN TOWN
GIVING A SPEECH, ACTUALLY JUST
AROUND THE CORNER I’M TOLD.
I HAVE A TWEET FROM HER THAT
SHOULD INTEREST YOU REGARDING
THE LATEST REVELATIONS FROM JOHN
DURHAM.
THE QUOTE IS, TRUMP AND FOX ARE
DESPERATELY SPINNING UP A FAKE
SCANDAL TO DISTRACT FROM HIS
REAL ONE.
SO IT’S A DAY THAT ENDS IN
SOMETHING, A DAY THAT ENDS IN
SOMETHING, THE MORE HIS MISDEEDS
ARE EXPOSED THE MORE THEY LIE.
OKAY, SO SHE IS SAYING WE’RE
JUST, WE’RE JUST COIN A PHRASE,
TRUMPING THIS UP BUT ON THE
OTHER HAND, THE DURHAM, I WANT
TO GET YOUR TAKE ON THE DURHAM
STORY, BECAUSE THE DURHAM THING
I THINK SHOWS WITH GREAT CLARITY
TRUMP REALLY WAS SPIED ON, YOU
KNOW?
PEOPLE SAID HE WAS CRAZY WHEN HE
TALKED ABOUT THAT.
AT THE TRUMP TOWER, JIM, AT HIS
ONE OF HIS APARTMENT BUILDINGS
ON THE WEST SIDE WHERE HE DID
NOT LIVE BUT THEN EVEN WORSE YOU
KNOW, IS THIS, THIS INTERNET
GUY, GOT INTO THE EXECUTIVE
OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENT, INTO
THE WHITE HOUSE WHICH IS VERY
SERIOUS BUSINESS.
>> YEAH.
LARRY: YOU’RE TALKING FELONIES,
TREASON, LORD KNOWS WHAT.
WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF THIS?
I WANT TO ADD THE PLAYER JAKE
SULLIVAN, RIGHT, THE NATIONAL
SECURITY ADVISOR, WHO WAS
PUTTING OUT THIS CRAP AND NOW HE
IS NEGOTIATING WITH THE RUSSIANS
FOR HEAVEN’S SAKES!
>> YEAH.
NO I THINK THE FIRST TAKEAWAY WE
WERE RIGHT ABOUT THIS ALL ALONG.
PRESIDENT TRUMP WAS RIGHT WHEN
HE SAID IN 2017 HE WAS BEING
SPIED ON.
BILL BARR SAID IT IN 2019.
HE SAID SPYING TOOK PLACE, A
BASIS FOR HIS CONCERN ABOUT THE
SPYING.
EACH TIME THOSE STATEMENTS WERE
MADE THE PRESS AROUND DEMOCRATS,
NO, NO, THAT IS NOT TRUE.
WE KNEW IT WAS TRUE.
NOW OF COURSE DURHAM HAS MORE
THAN CONFIRMED THAT.
HE PUT IT OUT THE FACT IT GOES
RIGHT TO THE CLINTON CAMPAIGN.
WHAT I FIND INTERESTING IS THIS
TECH EXECUTIVE 1, THIS JOFFE
GUY, BECAUSE THERE WAS A PIECE
IN "THE NEW YORK TIMES" NO, HE
WAS DOING WHAT HE WAS SUPPOSED
TO DO.
HE WAS UNDER CONTRACT.
IF HE SAW SOMETHING THAT WAS OF
CONCERN TO HIM HE SUPPOSED TO
RAISE THAT CONCERN.
LET’S ASSUME THAT IS ALL TRUE,
WHY DID HE RAISE THAT CONCERN
WITH THE LAWYER FROM THE CLINTON
CAMPAIGN MR. SUSSMAN AND
COMMUNICATED IT TO MR. ELIAS,
LAWYER FOR THE CHIEF COUNSEL FOR
CLINTON CAMPAIGN.
IF HE WAS CONCERNED ABOUT IT HE
SHOULD HAVE WENT TO THE FBI.
HE DIDN’T DO THAT, LARRY.
HE WENT TO THE CAMPAIGN, THEN
MR. SUSSMAN TAKES THE
INFORMATION TO THE FBI.
AGAIN NOT JUST ANYONE AT THE
FBI.
WHO DOES HE MEET WITH?
MEETS WITH JIM BAKER THE CHIEF
COUNSEL.
THAT IS WHY IT IS UNUSUAL ABOUT
THIS.
I FIND IT SO TROUBLING THE
LANGUAGE DURHAM USED, LARRY, WE
WERE LOOKING TO CREATE A
INFERENCE AND A NARRATIVE.
YOU KNOW WHAT WE CALL THAT?
WE CALL THAT FRAMING SOMEONE.
THEY WERE TRYING TO FRAME THE
PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES
AND IT GOES RIGHT TO THE CLINTON
CAMPAIGN AS EVIDENCED BY THE
FILING FROM MR. DURHAM LAST
FRIDAY.
LARRY: WITH ALL OF THAT, THIS
GUY JAKE SULLIVAN HELPED TO SELL
THAT.
HE WAS OUT THERE MARKETING THAT.
HE SAYS THIS IS THE MOST DIRECT
LINK YET BETWEEN DONALD TRUMP
AND MOSCOW, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH,
AND THEN HE SAYS, I LOVE THIS,
HE SAID THIS PUBLICLY, COMPUTER
SCIENTISTS HAVE APPARENTLY
UNCOVERED A COVERT SERVER
LINKING THE TRUMP ORGANIZATION
TO A RUSSIAN-BASED BANK.
THAT IS WHAT YOU JUST DESCRIBED.
THAT IS THIS GUY JOFFE.
HE IS NO COMPUTER SIGN ACTIVITY.
HE WAS ENGAGED IN THAT.
HE HAD SERVERS.
HE COULD INFILTRATE THE
INTERNET.
HE WENT RIGHT INTO THESE TRUMP
PLACES AND INCLUDING THE
WHITE HOUSE AFTER THE ELECTION
AND THIS GUY SULLIVAN IS OUT
SELLING IT.
MY GUESS IS, JIM JORDAN,
SULLIVAN HELPED TO SELL IT TO
THE FBI, SULLIVAN HELPED TO SELL
IT TO THE CIA HE HELPED TO SELL
IT TO THE DNI AS WELL.
BECAUSE HE WAS A FOREIGN POLICY
GUY.
I BET HE WAS OUT THERE MARKETING
IT.
NOW THAT’S A PROBLEM, ISN’T IT?
>> WELL IT SURE IS.
IF HE DID THAT, IF HE WAS, IF HE
WAS IN THE KNOW FROM THE GET-GO
ON THE WHOLE PATTERN, THIS WHOLE
OPERATION, IF HE KNEW THAT,
YEAH, I THINK HE NEEDS TO BE
HELD ACCOUNTABLE.
WE DON’T KNOW IF HE KNEW BUT IT
WOULD BE HARD NOT TO SAY, IT
WOULD BE HARD TO SAY HE DIDN’T
KNOW.
AGAIN THEY WERE TRYING TO CREATE
A NARRATIVE.
IF HE WAS IN ON THIS FROM THE
START ABOUT CREATING THIS
NARRATIVE TO FRAME, NOT JUST
ANYONE BUT THE MAJOR POLITICAL
PARTY’S CANDIDATE FOR PRESIDENT
AND THEN THE PRESIDENT-ELECT,
LOOKS LIKE THIS WENT ALL THE WAY
INTO THE TIME WHEN PRESIDENT
TRUMP WAS ACTUALLY PRESIDENT
AFTER JANUARY 20th, 2017.
LARRY: YES.
>> THAT IS ALL TRUE OF COURSE HE
SHOULD BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE.
WE DON’T KNOW THAT IS ALL TRUE
BUT THE FACT HE WAS TWEETING
ABOUT IT IN A TIMELY WAY SEEMED
TO INDICATE HE MY KNOWN.
WE’LL SEE WHAT MR. DURHAM COMES
UP WITH.
LARRY: YOU’RE QUITE RIGHT, HE
GETS A FAIR TRIAL ALTHOUGH THEY
NEVER GIVE US A FAIR TRIAL.
>> FAIR POINT.
LARRY: HE USED THIS PHRASE
COMPUTER SCIENTIST.
COMPUTER SCIENTIST, MY KEISTER
HOW’S THAT?
>> YEAH.
LARRY: JIM JORDAN YOU HAVE TO
COME AROUND MORE OFTEN.