- But I didn't, I didn't xxxx plan this.
- Getting, if the-- (stuttering)
- Okay, I'm not saying that he's lying.
I'm just saying it doesn't take
a forensic FBI body language specialist to tell
that he's more confident when he says number one.
- "We didn't find those.
We didn't find those violations and they weren't reported."
- Versus number two. - "Keep getting, if the-- (stuttering)"
- Well, now it should be obvious,
Joey Rogan is nothing but a liberal shill
controlled by the corporations.
That was a comment that was left under a YouTube video
of his when he interviewed Jack Dorcey
who's the founder and the CEO of Twitter.
The dude's like 40 years old, he's a billionaire.
He shows up to the interview
looking like Tom Hanks from Cast Away,
he's like in an experimentation phase.
He's got a nose ring and a big homeless man's beard,
it's unbelievable.
But this video has the lowest like rate
of any of Rogan's videos by a long way,
something like 15% of people gave it a thumbs up
versus a thumbs down, which is very rare
'cause Rogan's fans are pretty passionate.
And what they're blaming him for
is giving this guy softball questions,
easy layup questions, not putting his feet to the fire
'cause Rogan is known to be very passionate
about free speech.
And Jack Dorcey in Twitter has always been on the hook
for silencing and removing tweets and kicking people off
who have more of a conservative slant,
because Twitter is thought of to be a bit more liberal.
So that's the thing, so everyone is mad about Rogan.
So in this video, it's two hours,
I'm gonna break it down into a few very short clips
which I think are very telling and we're gonna look
and see was Rogan really trying to softball.
'Cause there's a few tells that he did
that we're gonna break down
and I'm gonna give you my perspective.
Now, before we jump in, I do wanna tell you.
I don't think Rogan gets enough credit
for being the type of conversationalist that he is
and being able to converse with such a variety of people
with different stances and different viewpoints
and different believes, often times other than his own.
When he sat down with Elon Musk, did you see that?
I'm telling you, if Rogan wasn't such a pro
that interview could have gone so terribly wrong,
'cause the first 45 minutes Musk was just sitting there
like an AI robot, yes, yes!
And Rogan so cool and natural, he's able to draw him out,
maybe the green at the end helped a little bit.
But I wanna say, Rogan has a tough job
talking to so many people.
He puts out interviews and podcasts every single week,
it's not easy to do.
But I do think in this video, he has one thing
specifically that's a tell that shows
what side he's on, specifically in this interview
when dealing with Dorcey,
so let's look at this first thing
and start breaking it down.
- I didn't plan this.
So now all of a sudden there's this signal
that I'm sending out to millions and millions of people.
And then people are like, well, you have a responsibility.
I'm like, oh great, well I didn't want that.
I didn't want a responsibility to what I distribute.
I just wanna be able to have a freak show.
- See, I think that that's very true.
I think that everything that Rogan said right there is true.
But I find it interesting,
and you make up your own mind on this.
That he took the time to explain that
on this specific interview,
which is the first time that he really
tones down the questions.
Did he know he was gonna get a bit of pushback
and so he wanted to preface this whole thing
by bringing that up?
Like, I never wanted the limelight,
I never wanted to be somebody who decides
who gets to talk and who doesn't get to talk,
I just wanted to talk to interesting people.
Although I think it's true,
I just find it interesting that he brought it up
on this very specific interview
where he softballs the questions.
- Just talk to people.
There are certain people that I have on,
whether it's Alex Jones or anyone that's controversial.
But people will get fucking mad,
why are you giving this person a platform?
I go, okay, I didn't think about it that way.
- Now, I think that's one of the things
that Rogan does really well, is he's open-minded.
If he has his mind made up on subject he takes it one side.
I've seen him change his mind many times
when he's presented with new information,
I think that's the way that people should be.
And I think he does look at it
from an open-minded perspective
when he hears dissenting information, he wants to hear it,
he doesn't wanna just prove himself that he's right.
So I agree with that.
- There was one of this,
and then there's the discussion like, well, what is that?
What is removing someone from a public conversation
if someone is very popular and they have
all these people that like to listen top them,
What is the responsibility of these platforms,
whether it's YouTube or Twitter or anyone?
What is their responsibility to decide whether or not
someone should or shouldn't be able to speak?
And this is a thing that I've been struggling with
and I've been bouncing around inside my own head,
and I see that you guys struggle with it
and pretty much everyone does. - Always.
- YouTube does.
- Now he's going in, this is the big thing.
This is something he's clearly planned ahead.
He's gonna bring up a question about Alex Jones
and about censorship, so watch how he does this.
- It is a hugely significant discussion
that is left to a very relatively small amount of people.
And this is why this discussion of what is social media.
Is it something that everybody has a right to,
or is it something that should be restricted
to only people that are willing to behave
and carry themselves in a certain way?
- You see how he leads into it, he couches it.
He's just goes straight to Alex Jones.
He's like, is it something that should be available,
like a commodity to everybody to give Dorcey
a chance to respond?
- I believe it's something that everyone has a right to.
- Yeah, everyone has a right to.
But you still ban people.
Like, Alex Jones, you guys were the last guys
to keep Alex Jones on the platform,
you were the last ones.
- All right, that is one of the most important things
in this whole interview.
So he starts out by saying,
he knew that he was gonna say
that everybody deserves a voice.
And then he steps in and says,
yeah, but you guys ban people.
Okay, let's go back and watch that.
- Has a right to, but you still ban people.
- Okay, so there, a lay listener may think,
oh yeah, but he brought up that they ban people, right.
He's holding his feet to the fire.
But before he even gives Dorcey a chance to respond,
he's backing off the statement twice
by going right into defending Twitter
by saying, yeah, but you guys were the last ones.
You guys kept him on the longest.
Everyone else kicked him off,
but you guys didn't, you kept him along.
I just find it interesting that he so wanted
to couch that and soften the blow and back off that.
He didn't even let Dorcey respond
before he backed off this twice.
Listen what he does right now.
- Say, like Alex Jones, you guys were the last guys
to keep Alex Jones on the platform, you were the last ones.
- Watch that whole thing together.
- Everyone has a right to, but you still ban people.
Say like, Alex Jones, you guys were the last guys
to keep Alex Jones on the platform, you were the last ones.
- Yeah. - And I believe you hang
in there until he started harassing you personally, right?
- No, no, no!
He did not. - He came to your house,
he banged, no. - No.
(laughing)
- And that's just a great example of Rogan
just being a pro, just trying to lighten it up.
This Dorcey guy, you can tell he's got
kind of a pretty serious non-jovial demeanor,
so anytime he can lighten conversation.
Rogan does it, he's a pro at that.
- He did very different things on our platform
versus the others. - Oh, okay.
- Then that's the other thing, that's number two of two.
That reminds me, Rogan was just gonna agree
like it was just some mind bending point that he made
with whatever he said.
Listen to how exaggerated that is, ooh!
'Cause if Dorcey would have said some new information
that was actually really interesting, it's one thing.
But it reminds me here, watch Rogan real quick.
Listen to Rogan.
- Versus the others. - Oh, okay.
- It reminds me of when a girl has a crush on a guy
and she just laughs at everything way too hard.
Like somebody just inappropriately is laughing way too hard.
(exaggerated laughter)
That's what this whole situation reminds me of.
Listen to that again, let me know what you think.
- He did very different things on our platform
versus the others. - Oh, okay.
- How does that strike you?
Let me know in the comments.
So one thing I want you to comment on below,
'cause I'm sure there will be no other comments at all.
But let me know what you think of that reaction from Rogan.
You think that was an honest thing,
or do you think that he was really trying to?
Because he's really, when you exaggerate something like that
it just gives confidence and it gives authority and it gives
I guess, validation to what the person is saying.
It's an easy crowd.
Rogan is like, ooh, it all makes sense now!
Or is it just an honest reaction, what do you think?
- And what he did on our platform.
- So what did he do on your platform
that you all were in agreement that this is enough?
- I'm not sure what the actual--
- Okay, that right there is the most fishy thing
of this whole two-hour interview.
So he clearly is very, very involved in Twitter.
He's not like some guy who started it
and now just lays on the beach all day,
he's very involved.
He says he doesn't know exactly what Alex Jones did
to get kicked off.
Do you know how many emergency meetings Twitter probably had
before they kicked him off to talk about that stuff?
You can believe one of two things.
Either, he really didn't know
and he's just completely detached from the company
or he didn't wanna get into it,
he didn't wanna talk about it.
And one of the biggest complaints that you'll see
about this interview was they said that Rogan,
or someone on his team was taking comments down.
And there was a guy named Mark Dice
that left a comment that had like a thousand up votes
and the comment was kinda mysteriously deleted.
And Rogan actually responded on a Facebook
and Instagram post that said they don't delete comments.
And I wanna believe that, and I don't think Rogan
seems like the kinda guy who's gonna completely lie
about something like that, but it is strange
and it makes you wonder who deleted it.
Rogan supposed that maybe the algorithm
just made it really hard to find.
I mean, there are probably tens of thousands
of comments at this point, maybe it just buried it deep.
But you'd wonder when it has a thousand up votes,
I think that was the highest number of up votes
of any comment that it would not only remain up high
but definitely remain visible.
And this was Mark Dice's comment that is in question.
What his comment said was, "Why was Alex Jones banned, Jack?
"I don't know."
And then his comment was, "Bull crap!
"He was banned for telling off CNN's Oliver Dorcey
"at the Jack Dorcey hearing for lobbying
"all the social media companies to get him banned.
"And so then Twitter banned him for harassing a journalist
"who was working in the capacity of a journalist at the time
"on public property while he was covering an event
"about social media, thus confirming everything
"Alex Jones was saying about social media censorship."
So this is kind of a big thing
for him to say that he has no idea what's going on.
One of these two things is true, either he doesn't know
or he just didn't wanna talk about it,
'cause drilling into this if this is really the case
you can see why he would be hesitant about it.
I'm not making a stance on whether I think
one of those things is true or not,
but it's definitely something fishy
that I think should be looked into.
- Violations were, but we have a set number of actions
and if they keep getting--
If an account gets violated--
- You see how he makes no eye contact
when he says all this either?
I mean, is that ever a confident delivery?
I'm still rewinding, he still hasn't looked up.
- We have a set number of actions
and if they keep getting--
If an account keeps-- (stuttering)
- He doesn't seem that confident right now.
- Keeps violating the terms of service,
ultimately it leads to permanent suspension.
And when all the other platforms were taking him off
we didn't find those violations and they weren't reported.
- So you see right there, when he goes back to saying,
when he talks about why they didn't take Alex Jones off?
Look at him, all of a sudden he's got strong body language.
Listen to his tonality and his delivery
and see how it changes.
Does he seem a lot more confident saying that?
- Platforms were taking him off, we didn't find those.
We didn't find those violations and they weren't reported.
- How different does that look from this?
- And if they keep getting-- (stuttering)
- Does that seem a little bit different to you? (laughs)
It doesn't take an FBI forensic body language expert
to pick that out.
- An account keeps violating the terms of service,
ultimately it leads to permanent suspension.
- So one of the reasons Joe Rogan is so good at this,
is he got his start with standup comedy.
And when you're a standup comedian you gotta deal with
drunk hecklers, belligerent people
talking trash to you, talking down to you
with the only intention to make you look bad, right,
'cause dit makes them look good.
And a lot of you know I've been working on a program
which is a solution to people who get talked down to.
Most people do, whether it's your family and friends
or someone at work that always wants to make you look bad
and make them look good.
I'm working on this program, but I wanted to say
if you live in Texas, I've actually decided
to go through this program live in Dallas, Texas
with a small group of people.
I'm gonna be working one-on-one with everybody
and present the entire content.
If that's something that sounds interesting to you,
if you look at the calendar right now
and it's before the 15th of February
you still got a chance to come.
If you're watching this video after that
then I'll change that card up in the right corner
with actual link to the program.
But if you're interested in coming on by to Dallas
you can click on that card right now.
You give me your email address and I'll give you
more information about what that looks like.
And if it's after that or if you live outside of Texas
and you're interested in checking out that program,
you don't want ol' Billy Bob coming up to you
everyday in the hallway saying his dumb comments
and you don't have anything to say back.
I wanna teach you how you can say something
so quick witted and so funny and so high status,
it actually makes you look better
than if the other person hadn't said anything to you at all.
Think about that dynamic, when you're out,
you're not only not scared of people talking trash to you,
you kinda hope they will 'cause you know
you're gonna end up looking better than if you hadn't.
And if you like this kinda content,
join me on Instagram, it's easy to do and it's free.
I'm putting out a lot of content on there,
a lot of behind the scenes stuff
that you won't get on YouTube.
And speaking of behind the scenes,
if you haven't heard this story,
I was out on a first date in Dallas
and there is this guy, the shorter guy
who started trying to make fun of me right in front
of my date at the bar while I was ordering drinks.
If you wanna hear the story, have me walk you through that
and how I handled it, you can click right here
and I'll talk to you there.
I wanna tell you a story.
Two days ago, I was out on a date
and there was a guy at a bar who kinda
was talking down to me a little bit.