hey it's dr amanda with straight smile solutions straightsmilesolutions.com and today we're going
to talk about going direct from phase one to phase two treatment and how it works and
when it would happen and how to smooth that transition out so occasionally that happens
right you start a phase one case patient is maybe on the older side like nine ish and
you know you intended your phase one to maybe to be six months or nine months but it turned it to
be like 13 months by the time you finish fixing the bite and doing all the stuff you need to do
in phase one and if you don't know what phase one includes you really should take a step back
and watch all my phase one videos in my phase one interceptive playlist you will totally understand
it after that if you can't find that playlist you can go to youtube at the top put in the search bar
straight smile solutions from there you'll get to my youtube channel which has a green
banner if you scroll down on the homepage you will find that playlist it says like phase one
interceptive airway stuff like that it's all one category so you should watch it but anyways
so occasionally like you finally finished phase one you're like oh my goodness they have like all
their teeth and now you know like it happened so fast they were just really really fast and
maybe you were a little slow and they were fast and that's how it worked out and then you're like
well should i do a retainer well i don't want to do a retainer because maybe like the upper
right fours and fives or the upper right premolars that just came in which isn't a part inherently a
phase one or a little weird you know and i'd like them to settle and wouldn't it be great just to go
into some easy aligners right now and just be done just a handful like be done done so this is where
you know you kind of gently actually i call this good news you know i go to the parent and say hey
great news uh you know we had intended this to be phase one normally after we do phase one we have
a year or two or three break before phase two is is really ready to go but because you know
um perhaps your kid's teeth came in faster than we expected we're ready to go so financially
this is actually going to be great for you because i can offer you two options
so in my mind you know we got to always bill for services rendered
and of course this can get slightly messy if you are using insurance well no not necessarily i mean
if you're using insurance and usually most patients don't have
dual insurance that covers both so usually you exhaust all the insurance on the phase
one anyways and usually the phase two is cash now if it's not then you're going to have to probably
get this pre-offed but and if you're not sure you should really talk to my friend bonsie popat
if you want to access her insurance courses she does one-on-one insurance tutorials for
ortho i do the clinical stuff she does that she's not with my company but we definitely
work together just because we do very different things that really help each other so i've listed
her classes on my website as a convenience if you go to street smile solutions and go to classes you
can access all her classes um and anyways she also does do a free consult with doctors but let's say
we went straight into phase two from phase one without taking a break let's talk about what
services that the patient had paid for for phase one that we didn't deliver that we can then apply
towards phase two and perhaps discount the price so first of all to me i'm not doing retainers at
the end of phase one right because i'm going straight into phase two so i'll be taking that
out also i'd be taking out the initial records of phase two because my phase one final records
which they paid for are the same as phase two initial records so that's a discount so there's
a couple hundred dollars there a couple hundred dollars there seems reasonable to me for sure
so definitely discounting it and normally phase two is going to be cheaper than comprehensive
anyways what do i normally charge for phase two a lot less now a plus b doesn't equal c but
certainly my comprehensive is five thousand to five hundred to six thousand my phase two
if i worked on you for phase one is usually in the neighborhood of three thousand thirty five hundred
3500 4500 depending on what they're getting how quick it is how many aligners things like that
so if i'm subtracting out some of this other stuff and i'm just going and perhaps perhaps i got to
the part in phase one where i was just gonna put a two by four on or just do phase one aligners you
know maybe i never even finished it and i can just merge that into phase two then perhaps i'm gonna
take another thousand off so now this maybe went down to twenty nine hundred twenty five hundred
two thousand so um lots of different options and that's just another benefit if you used in
phase one if you're not sure just use invisalign comprehensive for phase one you get five years to
finish it and then if they decide to go straight into phase two they're not gonna have a lab fee
and we'll discount their phase two even more so you know that way just for my time you know no
lab fee on their end but depends on how you do it but i think it's an awesome thing to offer to
your parents if they really really are ready and all the teeth are in at the end of phase one um
you know certainly just getting it done done is an added benefit all right thanks so much