Back in the second season of my show,
I gave Los Angeles-based realtor Sue Stanford
the idea of capitalizing on the 50% of people
who believe in ghosts by specializing in
the sale of ghost-free homes.
- That's really a wild idea.
- So after giving her marketing
a complete overhaul...
- Oh, my gosh. That's amazing.
- I paired her up with professional psychic Ron Bard
to help her detect any ghosts that
might be lurking in her properties.
- Definitely a change of energy. You feel that, correct?
- Mm-hmm. Definitely. I feel,
like, chills coming down my spine.
- Right. - Is it a ghost?
- No.
- What I never saw coming
was that Sue herself had had intimate encounters
with spirits in her past.
- It's like--you know what an incubus is?
It's a ghost that will have sex with someone until they die.
- Wow. That's like what I experienced
when I was in Switzerland.
- What happened in Switzerland?
- When I was being choked?
- You were being choked in Switzerland?
- Yeah, I--
- We were just talking about that.
- What? - Yeah, uh, earlier--
- Choked by what? - By an entity like that.
I felt like I was being picked--
- Wait, a ghost choked you in Switzerland?
- Yes. - Wow.
The filming of the ghost realtor episode
turned out to be an intense
personal experience for Sue.
- Come out! Come out, evil spirits!
- [sobbing] - Come out, evil spirits!
Demons messing up with the vertebras in the neck.
Leave now. - Uh...
- Leave now! - Okay!
- Leave, leave! Leave! - Stop it!
- Leave! Leave! - Stop it!
- But with so many distractions,
it was hard to tell at the time
what she really thought of my idea.
Are you okay, Sue? - Yeah. Actually, I'm fine.
I think I'm in-- feeling a little relief now.
It's amazing.
[sighs]
- It's been three years since I rebranded Sue
as The Ghost Realtor, and when I recently
checked out her website, I was delighted
to discover that she'd not only continued
to use my idea in her real estate practice
but had gone as far as teaming up
with Ron Bard the psychic
and a small-time production company
to create a television pilot
for a "Ghost Realtor" reality series
that she was pitching around town.
- I feel kind of funny in here.
This is--this is not good.
- We're putting salt in the corners
to disperse the negative energ.
If this was my house, I'd burn this shit down.
- I was so proud of how far Sue had run with my idea.
How are you, Sue?
- But when I gave her a call to schedule a follow-up,
she shared some sad news.
- Oh, I'm sorry, Sue.
But she told me she was now working with a new psychic,
and she wanted me to come meet him.
So at Sue's insistence,
I paid her a visit at her home.
- I want you to meet-- - Hi.
- Hey, Nathan. - Joshua.
- Good to meet you. - Nathan, good to meet you.
- Good to meet you. - J-Joshua?
- Yes, sir. - Good to meet you.
- So I'm what's known as a psychic medium,
but I'm also clairsentient,
which means that I feel, uh, my angels.
I'm also clairvoyant, which means I can see.
I'm also clairaudient, which is--most of the time,
I actually hear-- I hear voices.
and, uh, I also do financial advising.
- Oh, okay.
- Uh, it's--utilizing spirit with everything.
- Sue told me she was still working hard
to get the "Ghost Realtor" show off the ground,
and she even hoped that Ron could still be a part of it.
- He probably can help us from the other side, also.
- Yes, definitely. - Mm-hmm.
- That's a great point. - Yeah, it truly is.
- We call on Ron when we need some help.
[chuckles] - Definitely.
- So you can talk to Ron?
Even though he's gone, you can still...
- Sure, and, you know, I can do--I could try
communicating with Ron right now,
if you all would like. - Mm-hmm.
- Right now? - Sure.
- Why not?
- So dear Mother-Father God,
how grateful am I just for this...
vortex, for this space, for this time.
Grateful am I just for all of the angelic beings
that are in this home,
and as we evoke the spirit of Ron,
we are grateful that Sue, myself, and Nathan,
as a collective consciousness,
that we are open and available.
Okay, go ahead.
- Go ahead?
- Do you want to ask a question?
- Uh, for Ron?
- Yes.
- Um...
Did he enjoy his experience, uh, on the show?
- Yes.
- Great. Um...
- Are there any more questions that you--that you have?
- I guess, how does he feel about you replacing him?
- Uh, he says it's good.
He says he knows-- he says
that I've got a good heart. Um...
So he--he says it's good.
- That's good.
- Do you have any other questions, Nathan?
- Um...
I know, on the show, he mentioned
that he worked on the O.J. trial.
- Uhh, worked on O.J.'s defense team...
- You worked on O.J.'s case?
- Yeah. - So do you think he's innocent?
- He was definitely innocent.
- O.J. - Definitely.
- Now that he's... on the other side,
does he have any clearer info on,
maybe, who the real killer was?
- He--he does, uh, but I don't--
I'm not getting a name or anything like that right now.
- He knows who the killer is?
- Yeah. They--yes.
- Was it O.J.?
- This is not coming from Ron.
This is coming from me, and that answer is yes.
- But Ron's not telling you that.
- Every time I present him with that, he steps back.
- Who's telling you then?
- My own connection with-- with my own--
with my own spirit guides.
- Okay.
Cool.
- That's how it works.
- Bye, Sue.
- Bye, honey. You take care.
[gasps] Oh, I got a little kiss.
- Yeah, of course. - That's so sweet.
- Oh, you're welcome.
- Okay. Well, thanks for coming by.
- It's only--only for women.
[laughter]
It was great to see that Sue
and her new psychic got along so well,
and even though it was sad that Ron had died,
I was happy he'd still be able to guide them
from the other side.