there isn’t a real equivalency here when you have a former president who is sowing the the
seeds of doubt.
>> So David Muir was totally
run of the OPEC in the taxi
said Al Gore certified the
election and still
himself, and still there were
people that wouldn’t accepted
as and they said he was
illegitimate for the next 4
years because he worked for
George. Bush back then and
George Bush one we’ve all heard
by the way bill Hemmer and
Martha maccallum here. We all
heard.
That George Bush was a
legitimate president I just
they if they counted all for
you wouldn’t last and it was a
Supreme Court Justice gave it
to him, but it turns out they
didn’t count all Florida any
did win Florida despite the
fact his brother
was governor that’s really when
this challenging of election
started was that a valid point
you mind Martha.
>> Well I think you can point
to a number of different
instances, including Hillary
Clinton his first 4 years in
2016 called Donald Trump an
illegitimate president. She
said he knows he’s
illegitimate. He knows he is
not in that office because
he was legitimately elected she
said everyone knows and he
knows that it was Russian
intervention that put him in
that office. The tea, the fact
that this gets ignored by so
many in the media
that she repeatedly and you
know and then later on
underneath that really because
it was the basis of it the
entire Russia collusion
narrative hoax which was the
biggest stand on the U.S. press
in my lifetime.
And they still keep their
trophies in the get there
probably have saluted
absolutely take they kept their
Pulitzer prizes. To
not accept that that was one of
the most poisonous ground
seeping events that continue to
put in people’s minds that you
know elections are sort of
fungible there you know that
they’re not necessarily what
they appear to be was
devastating. I think to the
process is interesting you know
just watching these hearings
and Martha you’re anchoring the
what was a day for yesterday
or.
>> My losing count I think it
was day 4 or so we we have at
least 2 more to go right we did
5, 6, and will now they’re
saying they’re going to extend
them. They have new evidence
and they’d like to keep
Hashemi rascon I my guess is
the viewership drops a little
bit every
that notwithstanding I thought
yesterday was sort
of powerful, you know he’s
hearing from the African
American woman from Atlanta in
Fulton County who
who said her life was turned
upside down and her mom and
that’s a position to not that’s
pretty powerful stuff. I think
what they’ve done is they
packaged it well but I’ve
never known. Politicians to
read off a teleprompter
that’s what they’re doing for 2
hours so they’re getting what
they want. I still wish though
we have the opportunity to hear
a counter
opinion because I think it
would make it even more
interesting than what they’ve
expressed so far
and if we could get some of
these questions about security
what were you told what did you
do what you do not do what
request came in what came
before your death school what
never reached you I think it’s
vital.
To the future security of
Washington D C
absolutely and that would be
something that you think
Republicans would bring up and
they’ll bring up to.
>> I watch of the channels to
see how who’s covering wide
what have you and what they’re
saying is
they do have Republican penny
in its Adam kinzinger and Liz
Cheney, but they’re not playing
the role Republicans. Liz
Cheney is is more aggressive
than Adam Schiff,
Adam Schiff should not be on
that panel has lost all
credibility while people
pretending that he should be
taken seriously. It is beyond
me why we get why is that they
still have a job listen to the
people of California.
>> But he should not be on that
panel which is why he didn’t
leave the second impeachment.
I thought so he’s still asking
questions. But what you do is
Bill you brought the best point
they’re producing a TV show.
That’s why it’s impromptu okay.
The point of view that you know
much of the channel and I could
find out what the channel
thought
about this I’m watching with
Democrats thought happened that
day a lot of it is fact and it
is true.
Many Trump people thought that
Donald Trump was out of was
not. Basing any of his legal
offense on fact we
know the Rudy Giuliani teen.
Totally let us down he had no
proof to almost anything he was
saying when I say us, I mean
the American people but the
question is better of
if you have of trust in lawyer
that tells you you’ve been
robbed in 6, 7 states by my
only multiple counties and I
will prove it to you. Michael
yeah, I believe Rudy what you
believe Rudy. Guys so you never
heard that counter argument.
People go you know the
president I’d stay chilly
trust. Rudy Giuliani mourn a
buddy else. And now we find out
of their was telling the
documentarian that the
president my dad has every
right to fight in December to
keep fighting. Baca I was K one
little Edie she said.
We lost. But in December, she’s
telling documentarian that I
want my dad to keep fighting.
Okay so Baucus is keep
fighting. Rudy says keep
fighting Mark Meadows says keep
fighting. The attorney general
says stop fighting his a team
of drug dealers they stopped
fighting. And Donald Trump has
problems losing
that’s how we ended up in this
spot I can excuse his behavior
though, but let me just a
couple of points on that with
regard to Ivanka I think that
story is being misrepresented.
>> Because both of those things
can be true. She can have said
to her father. Yes, she was she
really she said I’m
paraphrasing a bit is you
should exhaust all legal Avenue
S to see
if you are correct about this
to see if there was any
election fraud right
and then she said that when she
heard bill Barr say that he
believed that there wasn’t
anywhere further to go that she
accepted that both of
those things can be absolutely
true and the way that it’s
being played on other media
outlets is that she said one
thing in this place and another
thing in that place I don’t
think that’s fair.
One point I would make about
and put I made yesterday which
got picked up, I think it
accurately.
Is that I said there was no
opposition questioning going
on. In this hearing true, and
it’s true people to know
there’s to Republicans you know
doesn’t Martha maccallum
realize that is of course I
realize that I said there’s no
opposition questioning and you
know what I would have really
liked to have heard this
opposition questioning that the
election worker who was very
compelling and she told a
devastating story about the
impact on her life and her
mom’s life. But the but
underlying all of this is the
fact that we had 50 something
lawsuits, one by Marc Elias
during covid to expand voting
rules to a place where they
have never been before
to expand the pre election How
long you
could vote. Places where every
single person who had ever
voted got a ballot sent to
them. These ballots in some
places are stacked up in the
apartment building mailroom
right because the don’t if they
live here anymore right.
So we had an extraordinary
situation here where you had a
very different way of voting
and not a clean custody of
these ballots. This is all
true. I would like to ask that
election worker how did it
change the way you did your
job. What was different this
time around because of the way
the and she talked we went out
and you know we we bring
balance to people have
disabilities weaving bows to
the elderly and nursing homes
even better, I’d like to ask
some questions about how all of
that worked some
great points. Those are
excellent yeah I think
anecdotally what I think about
during that week of the
election is a friend of mine
called me from New Jersey and
she said hammer houses election
ago. I said.
>> I guess we’ll find out
together she said well
all I know is that I live in
the state of New Jersey and
I’ve been mailed to ballots by
the state of send both ballot,
spelled my name wrong
and I would go on with my
answer it’s got all all I know
Tuesday to New Jersey. They
sent me 2 ballots in both
ballot, spelled my name wrong
as I I’m there’s just one case,
one example, one house in the
state of New Jersey, a state
that may not have mattered
quickly on the Liz Cheney point
I’ve been tracking these 10
Republicans who voted for
impeachment. They
may all be out of office come
January of 2023. 2 or
3 are still fighting for the
possibility of keeping their
job. But there’s a real good
chance if they don’t succeed.
All 10 you could for 10
by the time Congress convenes
in January right in some of it
they retire, Liz Cheney obvious
is going to blow in the primary
Martha to your point.
>> My whole thing is Donald
Trump is absolutely right to
doubt because of these new
election rules that we got to
recollect result. But would you
do in life and I don’t think
I’m arguing with you here.
His say I have real problems
with what’s going on with these
mail in ballots in these
anecdotal stories so I put my
legal team and they’re going to
be looking at over the next
month. But in the meantime
president Biden I’m going to
vice president Biden there by
the White House but a Tory
around I’m going to get to the
bottom of this and if not I’ll
see you in 4 years we’ll do
this again.
>> If he had done that his
approval rate be about 70%
right now good most everything
that Donald Trump did during
his election during his
presidency is being undone and
we’re all paying the price for.
>> I think that’s absolutely trail. I don’t think that is in the nature of the
former president. He’s he’s a
fighter. I think he approached
this situation not as you know
sort of
President the United States but
as you know someone who wanted
to win like he always did in
his business life right there’s
always a way there’s was a
legal battle, there’s always a
way and I think that just you
know from just from observing
him over the my assessment is
that that’s he came to it from
that place.
Biggest mistake and you know
many people have said this
is that they went down the
Dominion voting route right
they said that the machines
weren’t working right and that
I think was an avenue that
obviously didn’t bear any fruit
and that is why all of these
people that we hear from during
these hearings in Republican
office across the country said
look give me something I I
supported to I voted for you.
>> Give me something to work
with your semi lists of dead
voters right giving something
to the minute they couldn’t get
anything and we all tried to as
reporters and anchors.
You know not plea that his
office please send us we’re
talking I’d be happy to look at
the evidence
and we got nothing either that
that’s very problematic that
wanted that to Lindsey Graham
said if you do show me 200 and
said it and I’ll say that
representative the
20,000. But you get you get you
got to get my list every day in
hindsight all we’ve got re
press conferences and words
right and we were given no
evidence or fact yesterday
theories but not evidence
correct I think you’re right
about Ivanka I mean, but both
can be true, you know you want
to fight to the very end I
would pursue a fire in that
same position.
>> Let me exhaust the legal
avenues but when you’ve got no
proof you’ve got to call it a
day Brian to your point I think
this is find a look at the
review America’s you rightly
mention a lot of people are
paying for the policies that
this administration is has
brought him this is their
choice. This is their decision
elections have consequences
what Trump could have done.
On January 19th.
Yeah, I think 20 Virginia where
if if if you want to go that
early in the month. He could
call a press conference put all
of his policies on
a board and said this is what
we’ve done over the last 4
years. Now I’m going to leave.
I’m going to Florida I’m going
to watch but the new
administration does and
together we’re going to see
what they do with the policies
that we’ve established for
America and I’m going to answer
when I’m not happy with the
decisions they may do Roosevelt
did decide to come back and he
didn’t work for him because he
had to split his own party to
do it. But this party would
have been waiting for he would
put there was a part of the Red
Sea specially now yeah, but
instead he blew it. Yeah and I
think the best example is what
happened is oil and gas.
>> How many times the president
Trump open up the doors, the
White House debate guns, major
issues in front of everybody to
keep the cameras
in here.
>> And what have the heads of
see you know heads of
businesses come in let’s figure
this out that’s what he
Doyle aghast and Joe he wasn’t
by the way he lead you know he
was in for against solar panels
and wind he was and he’s not
one of those guys that think
said we can have cleaner
energy.
>> But he never would have done
this in a million years.
Well the problem is
you know you can’t until you’re
ready to example I give is like
if you’re going to renovate
your house right you don’t.
>> We’re going to buy a house
you don’t move out of your old
House, you know knock down the
House before you have a house
to live in. There’s no house to
live in with green Okay, so we
have to keep our house right
now and we have to make sure
that we have the energy that we
need until that’s ready.
And yes, president Trump is an
all of the person when it comes
to energy
was interest and yes, he would
have opened the doors and
brought in all of these
executives instead you have
this stupid adversarial
relationship with oil companies
at a time when it doesn’t serve
anybody. In terms of lowering
prices so I’m in and president
Biden keeps talking about what
a says all the time. But I
don’t see any actual
demonstration of that anywhere
know listen to your listeners
go check out the letter that
was written by the CEO of
absolutely powerful, it’s
pointed.
>> And he concludes by saying
the American people are hurting
because of the decisions you’re
making and I said I didn’t know
they were going to be so
sensitive right yeah, in be
before we go to break I just
want everyone to hear that will
play the whole thing will play
some of the Derek.
>> That is cut number one.
>> The ceo’s complaint today that your administration has largely
criticize Times bill by the
administration would be to take
a change
in approach in order to make
progress on reducing energy
prices and to preserve idea
reaction to that Sir.
>> I know for a few weeks or
>> How does that help him and
then by the way it is a sober
letter it isn’t like he’s going
to get a political opponent, he
thinks it’s politics when this