Leaked text messages between Fox news host Tucker Carlson and
conspiracy theorist Alex Jones have shed light on the relationship between two of
the far right's most notorious figure heads.
The messages were obtained by huffpost thanks to Sandy Hook families lawyer
Mark Bankston.
Remember this is the attorney who was accidentally given a complete digital copy
of Alex Jones's phone because Alex Jones hired apparently some very incompetent
attorneys to represent him in that trial.
So shout out to him for doing that and giving us this wealth of big oops.
But so Tucker and Jones apparently have a cozy relationship and
they discuss everything from their coverage on their respective news outlets.
If you can even call those clown shows, news to the coronavirus pandemic.
So let's get into some of the details from that.
They talked about the elections from HuffPost.
If democrats win in November, they're going to crush Fox news just as
they've crushed the NRA and we're going to deeply regret letting it happen.
Carlson texted everyone who thought it was fine that they deep platform Alex jones
will look like an effing moron.
It's crazy cuz that election happened and democrats won and unfortunately for
the rest of us, Fox News is still taken along.
They also talked about Alex Jones'd show, info wars on April 25th 2020
jones appeared to seek Tucker Carlson's approval when he texted an info wars video
of himself wearing a Facebook shirt and mock apologizing to Mark Zuckerberg.
The video was titled Alex Jones signs huge Facebook deal.
When Carlson didn't respond, Jones sent a follow up texted, satire, he clarified.
>> [LAUGH] >> [LAUGH]
>> Don't misunderstand it bro.
>> It's older, you choke tucker please.
But Tucker apparently texted back seven hours later, this is bitterly hilarious.
Something tells me, Tucker did not give a singular crap about that video.
>> That's one of those texts that you had, that you know that you've gotta respond to
the person sent you another text on it, so you feel like my God, all right yeah.
>> He double texted and said noticed me, please daddy.
So he's like all right, but they didn't just talk about Alex Jones's ventures.
They also talked about the daily caller, which is the right wing publication
founded by Carlson for not letting info wars feature its content on the website.
They won't even take my money, Jones wine to Carlson.
Evan crazy, I'm really sorry Carlson responded.
Again, I'm just not feeling the emotion coming from.
>> [LAUGH] >> [LAUGH] But
they talked about a lot more.
They also talked about Covid.
So when the Covid lockdown started in March of 2020,
Tucker drove to Mara Lago to Warren Trump about the virus and
they texted about that people you know will get sick.
Carlson said on his show later that night, some may die, this is real,
that's the point of the script to tell you that.
And at the time, Alex Jones seemed to agree and be on board with Tucker,
Jones texted Carlson a link on March 16th 2022 are now deleted.
Wonder why it was deleted info wars article titled,
Tucker Carlson drove to Mara Lago to warn Trump coronavirus was a real threat.
The subhead Red Fox News host saves America.
I tried man Carlson texted Jones back.
My God it's it's such a funny shift and of course it did all change after that.
So from September 19th 2019 to May 1st 2020 Jones and
Carlson discussed coronavirus conspiracy theories,
traded a few jokes and had at least one phone conversation after jones
expressed unfounded fears the democrats were working to get me arrested.
Jones also appears to have deleted several of his messages in the conversations he
had with Carlson but
of course these are the texts from the messages he didn't delete.
God I would love to have access to those deleted texts.
>> Yeah. What a bromance?
It's so much fun to see it.
A little lopsided.
Clearly Tucker's got the upper hand,
Jones kind of sucking up to him every which way you can.
But you see how they know the truth about things,
you see how they take the truth and they decide which side of it how to twist it.
They're gonna actually end up on, I thought it was instructional for
both those things to show the relationship and also to see how they see
the situation, they just decide what shot they wanna take.
Because as you say, things began to change after Carlson's visit to Mara Lago.
>> And it's definitely like you said one sided and
Alex Jones is so defensive about it.
So he did speak to her post about this article and he said to them,
that's just a snapshot of conversations, but I think it's fair to say that most of
the time I reach out to him, I'm gonna leave it at that.
But he's not a big text guy, he just coping and see thing I've got okay,
I just got a couple more of messages between the two of them and
things that that Alex Jones said when speaking to the post.
He told the HuffPost that he didn't need to radicalize Carlson,
I'm not influencing Tucker Carlson the world is understanding that my worldview
is closer to reality than mainstream media, so
I don't need to radicalize Tucker Carlson, he sees what's going on in the world.
Okay, all right.
Yeah, I mean, I think tucker Carlson is pretty radical, I don't think
Alex Jones needs to do anything to make him less of a white nationalist.
But apparently the friendship does go both ways at least a little bit
because Carlson recently wrote a glowing review for Jones's book,
which was published in October which is a bold move from Jones because how
it's a bold assumption that your fans can read, but HuffPost before it on this too.
They said if Alex Jones is just a crackpot,
why are the most powerful people in the country trying to silence him?
Carlson wrote for the blurb?
No one bothers to censor the flat aurthors.
Maybe Alex Jones is onto something and a phone call with HuffPost Jones said
Carlson has already outed himself as an Alex Jones fan.
Mark, are you and Alex Jones fan?
>> [LAUGH] Not on my dying day, but I'll tell you that the weird relationship
that these two have is really all about popularity, isn't it?
I feel like all roads with them lead to, how can I become more popular?
How can I sell more protein shake in the case of Jones?
Sell more clicks in the case of Carlson.
There's no foundation in reality on any of these things.
So you kind of have to look to the next level and
it strikes me is that Jones is super performative, right?
Everything he does is theater and he has to always serve up the theater.
And then in the back and forth with Tucker, he's just trying to,
I think curry favor with the guy who's got a network show, it feels that way to me.
>> Yeah, but just to be clear, you don't think that the United States government
is conspiring to silence the bold truths that Alex Jones is speaking such
as the water is turning frogs gay.
>> Yeah, you're right.
I should take another look at that.
Thank you, Ray.
>> You do your own research [LAUGH].
>> [LAUGH] Didn't mean to lose that in the cloud.
You're right.