- [Interviewer] Was it daunting
to go up against Jack in the first one?
- There were moments where it got a little weird,
but by and large, no. Not too much.
He thinks like a filmmaker, 'cause he's been a director,
and started as a writer, I think, really.
And he has great ideas and great instincts.
- I just, the love for movies and movie making,
and the knowledge of filmmaking that he has,
both on and off camera, is staggering.
I mean, he is a true movie star and a great character actor.
- Joker has his own philosophy,
that he's the way he is
because something happened to him in his past,
but he's pretty devout, you know,
he has a devout philosophy of anarchy, really.
You know, no rhyme nor reason for his actions.
He's played brilliantly by Heath,
and I think that people will really enjoy it.
- [Interviewer] I've heard you're doing this little film
called 'The Dark Knight.'
- Done.
- The Joker, something about that, you're playing, right?
- It was an exhausting process.
Like I actually had quite a bit of time off
in between scenes, but, you know, like weeks sometimes,
but it was required, because whenever I was working,
it just — it exhausted me to the bone.
At the end of the day, I couldn't move, I couldn't talk,
I was just absolutely wrecked.
If I had to do that every day,
I couldn't have done what I did,
I would have had to have done a milder version of it.
- [Interviewer] There's been talk already on the internet
of Heath Ledger, and maybe an Oscar, maybe an award —
an awards-worthy performance.
Obviously, it's a great performance.
Do you think it's awards worthy?
- I have no idea. I mean, I think it's a great performance,
and I'm very excited to get it out there
and have everybody able to respond to it
and able to see that it's a great performance.
- [Interviewer] There is a lot of buzz surrounding
you possibly playing the Joker in the 'Suicide Squad' movie.
Is there any discussions about that?
Or regardless, what's your —
- You know there's a film called 'Fight Club,' my friend,
and you know what the first rule is, don't you?
- [Interviewer] "Don't talk about Fight Club."
- Enough said.
- Talk about your relationship with Jared, and the Joker.
I'm not sure if there's a difference, or not,
if you consider it different.
- There's, yeah, a massive difference.
I don't even see them as being the same person,
I truly don't.
When I see Jared, I'm like, "Hey, how ya been?"
As if I hadn't seen him for years.
- First, we found out that Jared
wasn't gonna be in rehearsal.
So we're like, "Aw, well that's messed up.
How he gonna not be in rehearsal?"
And then there was a bang on the door,
and you know, we're like, "Who?"
And, you know, this dude barges in
and throws a dead pig down on the floor in front of us.
And we're like, "Oh, shoot!"
And he said, "That's from Mr. J."
And he hands Margot [Robbie] a box with black roses,
wrapped in black,
and she opens it, and it's a live rat in the box!
We're like, "Okay, so Jared has officially
set off the Suicide Squad."
- [Interviewer] Game is on.
- Game is on!
You know, but he just went full Joker.
He went full Joker [laughs].
- You mention 'Joker.'
What can we expect out of 'Joker'?
I mean, this is being compared
to like, 'Taxi Driver' or a comic-book movie.
What am I getting out of Todd Phillips' 'Joker'?
- I can't say anything!
- [Laughter]
- It's gritty and dark.
- [Laughter]
Gotham! [Chuckles]
- Can we expect something interesting from Joaquin [Phoenix]?
He has never delivered an uninteresting performance in his career.
- Oh yeah, he's great, interesting on camera, off camera.
We had to do everything then,
because Joaquin had lost so much weight
that we couldn't do re-shoots later on.
So we were figuring it out.
But Todd [Phillips'] quick, he's quick at getting stuff done,
so we always had extra time, which was great.
- I'm excited, Todd, you, Joaquin, [Robert] De Niro, come on!
- Yeah, it's a good cast.
- [Interviewer] Is there something that you see
redeeming about this character,
or is he just totally black to you?
- Not at all, yeah, there's zero empathy.
I mean, you'll just have to wait and see, I guess.
I mean, it's the most fun I've had with a character
and probably will ever have.
And the movie itself, I think,
is far exceeding my expectations.
It's looking — well, I haven't seen anything,
but, from what I feel and what I've heard, it's —
I think it's gonna be, really, a fun movie to watch.