Let's turn now to what happened in the president's vehicle.
When the secret Service told him he would not be going to the capital
after his speech.
First. Here's the president's motorcade leaving the Ellipse after
his speech on January 6th.
Miss Hutchinson.
When you return to the White House in the motorcade after the president's
speech. Where did you go?
When I returned to the White House, I walked upstairs towards the
chief of staff's office, and I noticed Mr Bernado lingering outside
of the office. Once we had made eye contact, he quickly waved me
to go into his office, which is just across the hall from mine.
When I went in, he shut the door, I noticed Bobby Angle who was the
head of Mr Trump's security detail, sitting in a chair looking somewhat
discombobulated, little lost.
Um, I looked at Tony and he had said
Did you hear what happened in the beast?
I said No, Tony, I just got back.
What happened?
Tony proceeded to tell me that
When the president got in the base. He was under the impression from
Mr Meadows that the off the record movement to the capital was still
possible and likely to happen, but that Bobby had more information.
So once the president had gotten into the vehicle with Bobby
He thought that they were going up to the capital, and when Bobby
had related to him, we're not. We don't have the assets to do it.
It's not secure. We're going back to the West Wing.
The president had
Very strong, very angry response to that.
Um
Tony described him as being irate.
The president said something to the effect of
I'm the acting president. Take me up to the capital now.
To which Bobby responded, sir. We have to go back to the West Wing.
President reached up towards the front of the vehicle to grab at
the steering wheel.
Mr Engel grabbed his arm.
Said, Sir, You need to take your hand off the steering wheel.
We're going back to the West Wing. We're not going to the capital.
Mr Trump, then used his free hand to lunge towards Bobby Angle and
Mr One, Mr Ronaldo had recounted the story to me. He had motion towards
his clavicles.
And was Mr Engel in the room as Mr or nado told you this story. He
was
Did, Mr Engel
Correct or disagree with any part of the story from Mr or Nado. Mr
Angle did not correct or disagree with any part of the story.
Did Mr Engel or Mr Arnaldo ever after that tell you that what Mr
or nado had just said was untrue.
Neither Mr Renato nor Mr Engel told me ever that it was untrue.
And despite this altercation, this physical altercation
During the ride back to the White House. President Trump
Still demanded to go to the capital.
Here's what Kayleigh Mcenany, the White House press secretary at
the time, wrote in her personal notes and told the committee about
President Trump's desire to go to the capital.
After returning to the White House.
When you wrote Post wanted to walk to the capital.
Was that based solely on what the president said during his speech
or anything that he or anybody else, said afterwards.
So to the best high recollection. I believe when we got back to the
White House, he said He wanted to physically walk with the marchers.
And according to my notes, he then said, Uh, you'd be fine with just
writing the beast. But that's my recollection. He wanted to be a
part of the march in some fashion, Okay. And just for the record,
the beast refers to the presidential limousine.
Yes.
President Trump did not go to the Capitol that day.
We understand that he blamed Mark Meadows for that.
So the prior to leaving the rally site when he got off the stage,
and everybody was making the movement back to the motorcade I had
overheard Mr Meadows said to him then, as I had prior to Mr Trump
taking the stage that morning, um, that he was still working on getting
an off the record movement to the capital. So Mr Trump took the stage.
He was under the impression via Mr Meadows that it was still possible.
So when he got off the stage I had
Relate to Mr Meadows that I had another conversation with Tony.
Movement was still not possible. Mr Meadows said. Okay. And then
as they proceeded to go to the motorcade, um and Mr Mattis had reiterated
We're going to work on the start Talks body. Bobby has more information.
Mark got into his vehicle to my understanding Trump got into the
beast and after we had all arrived back at the White House later
in the day.
And had been relieved me via mark that the president wasn't happy
that Bobby didn't pull it off for him, and that Mark didn't work
hard enough to get the movement on the books.
The physical altercation that Miss Hutchinson, described in the presidential
vehicle was not the first time that the president
Had become very angry about issues relating to the election.
On December. 1 2020 attorney general, Barr said in an interview that
the Department of Justice had not found evidence of widespread election
fraud sufficient to change the outcome of the election.
Miss Hutchinson. How did the president react to hearing that news?
Around the time that I understand the AP article went live
I remember hearing noise coming from down the hallway, so I poked
my head out of the office. I saw the valet walking towards our office,
he had said.
Get the chief down to the dining room. The president wants him.
Mark went down to the dining room came back to the office a few minutes
later.
Aftermarket returned. I left the office and went down to the dining
room, and I noticed that the door was propped open in the valley
was inside the dining room, changing the tablecloth off of the dining
room table.
He motioned for me to come in.
And then pointed towards the front of the room near the fireplace
mantel on the TV were I first noticed there is ketchup dripping down
the wall, and there's a shattered porcelain plate.
On the floor.
The valet had articulated that the president
Was extremely angry at the attorney general's AP interview.
And had thrown his lunch against the wall.
Um
Which was causing them to have to clean up so I grabbed a talent
started wiping the catch up off the wall to help the valet out.
Um
And he said something to the effect of he's really ticked off about
this. I would stay clear of him for right now. He's really, really
ticked off about this right now.
Miss Hutchinson.
Was this the only instance that you are aware of where the president
Through dishes.
It's not
And are there other instances in the dining room that you recall
where he expressed his anger?
There. There are several times throughout my tenure at the chief
of staff that I was aware
Of him either throwing dishes or flipping the table cloth, Um, to
let all the contents of the table go onto the floor and
Likely breaker.
Go everywhere.
And Miss Hutchinson Attorney General Barr described to the committee
the president's angry reaction when he finally met with President
Trump.
Let's listen.
And I should love right. I know that you're dissatisfied with me
and I'm glad to offer my resignation and pounded the table very hard.
Everyone sort of jumped and he said, except it.