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- Hello everyone.
Happy Pride.
My name is Elsa.
I use she/her pronouns.
Today, I am so excited to have the chance
to speak with Daniel
and learn about all the amazing work that they're doing
to transform the LGBTQIA+ community
and just create some noise.
So Daniel, you have done some incredible work
creating the new Progress Pride flag.
Can you tell me what inspired you to create this flag?
- Yeah, it was a year after Philadelphia
had introduced the More Color, More Pride flag,
which was the one that had the black and brown stripes
across the top.
And in 2018, prior to mine,
Seattle had introduced a version
where they added the trans flag stripes
across the top as well.
And I saw that the same day that they introduced it.
And I thought, this is amazing.
This has a great message to it.
And it's just really a beautiful sense
of bringing in more diversity inclusion
into the Pride movement.
But I thought, hey, here's an opportunity
for me as a designer to kind of like put a design spin on it
and kind of do something
to help really emphasize the message that they're going for
as well as add in my own, you know, things here and there.
I know that a flag will not do something by itself.
It's what people talk about after they've seen it.
As far as the future though, I, you know, honestly,
I'm kind of letting the flag kind of live on its own
and not really trying to dictate
where it goes and what it does.
For me, I view myself more as a caretaker
or a steward or something of that nature to the flag
and not so much the creator of the flag.
- Yeah, I love the idea of you as a caretaker
and not as the creator,
because I feel like with movements like this,
it's really a community, right?
It's really everyone coming together.
And like you said, using dialogue as a means for progress
and as a means to push things forward.
Reflecting on Microsoft
and the work that we're doing around Pride this month,
a lot of our campaigns center on intersectionality
and the importance of really coming together
across communities.
So what does that mean to you, Daniel?
- For me, you know, we can,
we can talk about intersectionality
and we can talk about coming together,
but until we actually do,
none of that really matters.
What's really important with intersectionality
and working together is to listen
to the people that have often not been given
the appropriate platform for their voices to be heard.
And I think what we've done, both as a society in general
and as a community, the LGBTQIA+ community,
is we have these structures in place
that have been built that give more platform
to certain voices to speak.
And I think until we're able to kind of either
work those around or dismantle those structures in place
will allow us to then allow more of the voices
that need to be heard more to be given that platform.
- Thank you so much for your time and for your insight.
This was so exciting for me to get to speak with you
and learn more.
And I hope everyone listening felt the same way.
Thank you everyone for listening.
I hope you all have a great rest of your day
and continue celebrating Pride this month.
Thank you.
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