ELIZABETH: CLAUDIA COWAN GREAT
REPORTING AS ALWAYS.
JOINING US NOW PENNSYLVANIA
CONGRESSMAN DAN MEUSER FROM
SMALL BUSINESS, FOREIGN AFFAIRS,
VICE PRESIDENT OF THE FRATERNAL
ORDER OF POLICE.
JOE GAMALDI.
PLEASED TO HAVE YOU BACK ON.
CONGRESSMAN, FIRST TO YOU.
DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS
SPENDING MASSIVELY ON THE
CAMPAIGN TO GET RID OF CHESA
BOUDIN.
FORMER LEADER OF THE DEMOCRAT
PARTY HEAD RECALL.
ASIAN-AMERICANS, HISPANICS OF
SAN FRANCISCO THEY DON’T WANT
HIM ANYMORE.
WHERE DO YOU SEE THIS GOING?
>> FROM WHAT I SEE IN THE POLLS,
BOUDIN HIS GOOSE IS COOKED AND
FOR ALL THE RIGHT REASONS.
HIS PROSCUTION RATE HAS ALMOST
BEEN CUT IN HALF.
HE TREATS CRIMINALS LIKE THEY’RE
THE VICTIMS AND THIS HAS BEEN
GOING ON SINCE HE GOT INTO
OFFICE.
THE PEOPLE ARE SEEING THAT.
REPEAT OFFENDERS, HE IS NOT
PROSECUTING THOSE.
THE POLICE ARE BECOMING
DEMORALIZED BECAUSE OF IT.
THE NUMBER OF APPLICANTS FOR
POLICE IN SAN FRANCISCO IS
ENORMOUSLY LOW.
AND.
FUNDING HAS BEEN DEPLETED.
OF COURSE CRIME IS GOING UP.
HE COULDN’T REALLY BE DOING MUCH
OF A WORSE JOB AND YOU KNOW WHAT
IS CAUSE AND EFFECT, LIZ?
YOU DON’T SUPPORT THE POLICE,
YOU REDUCE THEIR FUNDING, CRIME
IS GOING TO GO UP.
WE’VE GOT A SITUATION SIMILAR TO
THAT IN PHILADELPHIA.
WE’VE GOT A GUY BY THE NAME OF
LARRY KRASNER WHO IS NOT A LOT
DIFFERENT.
WE’RE PASSING LEGISLATION IN
PENNSYLVANIA TO MAKE SURE HE
DOESN’T GET A THIRD TERM.
ELIZABETH: THIS COULD SPARK
SOMETHING NATIONWIDE, JOE.
HOW DO YOU SEE THIS?
JOE, PEOPLE ARE SICK OF CRIME IN
CALIFORNIA AND ELSEWHERE.
HOMICIDES IN CALIFORNIA JUMPED
THE MOST SINCE 1960.
THERE IS UC BERKELEY POLL CRIME
AND PUBLIC SAFETY ARE TOP
CONCERNS.
MORE THAN RACE RELATIONS HEALTH CARE AND PANDEMIC?
CARE AND PANDEMIC?
HOW DO YOU SEE THIS GOING?
PEOPLE ARE SICK OF SMASH MOB
LOOTING OR GARBAGE BAGS OR
PEOPLE LOOTING THEIR HOUSES.
WHERE DO YOU SEE THIS IS
HEADING.
>> HOPING IS A BOUDIN IN THE
UNEMPLOYMENT LINE BY THE END OF
THE NIGHT.
I THINK YOU SEE A LAW AND ORDER
WAVE IN THE MIDTERMS.
AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE FED UP.
WE’RE SEEING IT IN THE POLLING
DATA.
RECENT "GALLUP POLL" SAID CRIME
IS A CONCERN FOR AMERICANS AT
ITS HIGHEST LEVEL THAT IT HAS
BEEN IN YEARS.
A RECENT "PEW RESEARCH POLL"
SAID BLACK PERSONS, NUMBER ONE
CONCERN?
CRIME.
RIGHTFULLY SO.
YET WE STILL HAVE ACADEMICS,
POLITICIANS, ACTIVISTS, PUSHING
ZERO CONSEQUENCE CRIMINAL
JUSTICE POLICIES AND THEY
PACKAGE IT BY TELLING THE PUBLIC
THIS IS GOING TO HELP OUR
MINORITY COMMUNITIES WHEN THIS
FACT IT DOES THE OPPOSITE.
YOU KNOW WHO IS
DISPROPORTIONATELY IMPACTED BY
VIOLENT CRIME IN THIS COUNTRY?
BLACK AMERICANS, TO THE TUNE OF
12 TIMES EVERYONE ELSE.
YOU KNOW WHAT?
THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WE’RE NOT
STUPID.
WE SEE WHAT IS GOING ON IN OUR
COMMUNITY.
WE WANT SAFE STREETS.
THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS, WE’RE
PISSED OFF.
IF POLITICIANS DON’T GIVE US
WHAT WE WANT, WE NOT GET LAW AND
ORDER.
WE’LL FIND SOMEONE ELSE WHO
WILL.
>> WHAT JOE IS SAYING.
AMERICANS WERE LOCKED DOWN.
THEY LOST THEIR BUSINESSES IN
REALLY BOTCHED LOCKDOWNS SO
INCOMPETENTLY DONE.
CRIME WAVE UNLEASHED BY THE
LIKES OF BOUDIN.
HE DEFENDED FREEING DOZENS OF
VIOLENT FELONS FROM JAIL.
HE REFUSED TO PROSECUTE CRIMES
LIKE BURGLARY AND ASSAULT.
HE ENDED CASH BAIL.
HE TARGETED COPS FOR
PROSECUTION.
HE DID NOT BRING ONE SINGLE
CONVICTION FOR POSSESSION WITH
INTENT TO SELL DRUGS EVEN THOUGH
FENTANYL IS SOARING IN
SAN FRANCISCO AS WELL AS OTHER
DRUGS.
>> FENTANYL IS MORE OF A KILLER
IN SAN FRANCISCO THAN IS COVID.
HOMELESSNESS IS WAY UP.
EVERY TYPE OF CRIME IS WAY UP.
GRABBING TRASH IS, IS HOUSEHOLD
PHRASE.
AND YOU KNOW WHAT ELSE, LIZ?
NUMBER OF APPLICATIONS FOR GUNS
IS WAY UP, FOR LEGAL USE OF
GUNS.
I MEAN LIKE SIX TIMES, SEVEN
TIMES MORE THAN HAD BEEN BEFORE.
AND, SAN FRANCISCO, LIKE
PHILADELPHIA, LIKE NEW YORK, ARE
LOSING THEIR CONSTITUENTS.
THEY’RE LOSING THEIR POPULATION.
PEOPLE ARE VOTING WITH THEIR
FEET.
THEY ARE GETTING OUT OF THERE.
UNTIL WE REVERSE COURSE.
WE NEED TO REVERSE COURSE ON LAW
ENFORCEMENT.
WE NEED TO REVERSE COURSE ON OUR
ECONOMY.
ELIZABETH: YEAH.
>> WE NEED TO REVERSE COURSE ON
THE BORDER.
A LONG LIST.
ELIZABETH: CALIFORNIA IS A
BEAUTIFUL STATE.
IT IS ALSO HIT WITH DROUGHTS.
IT WILL BE HIT WITH BLACKOUTS,
BROWNOUTS.
IT HAS, SEEMS LIKE IT HAS A HIGH
THRESHOLD FOR PAIN, JOE, WHEN IT
COMES TO THINGS LIKE THAT BUT
THE CONGRESSMAN MENTIONED
SOMETHING ABOUT ILLEGAL GUNS.
WHEN YOU IGNITE A CRIME WAVE
WITH WEAK ON CRIME POLICIES,
GUNS POUR IN, RIGHT?
PEOPLE WANT TO PROTECT
THEMSELVES, RIGHT?
ALSO ILLEGAL GUNS POUR IN,
RIGHT, JOE?
IS THAT WHAT IS GOING ON?
>> YEAH.
I MEAN YOU’RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.
WE SEE PLENTY OF ILLEGAL GUNS ON
THE STREETS.
BUT HERE IS THE RUB.
BECAUSE OF THESE WOKE D.A.s.
BECAUSE OF ACTIVIST JUDGES.
WE’RE NOT ENFORCING GUN LAWS WE
HAVE ON THE BOOKS RIGHT NOW.
WE’RE HAVING A NATIONAL
DISCUSSION ABOUT DIFFERENT GUN
LAWS BUT WE CAN MAKE IMPACT
RIGHT NOW IF WE WOULD THROW THE
BOOK AT PEOPLE COMMITTING
VIOLENT CRIMES WITH GUNS.
PROBATION TO PEOPLE SHOOTING
PEOPLE.
PROBATION TO PEOPLE COMMITTING
AGGRAVATED ROBBERIES WITH A GUN.
PEOPLE ILLEGALLY SELLING GUNS.
FELONS IN POTENTIAL OF A
FIREARM.
THE LIST GOES ON AND ON.
HERE’S A NOVEL IDEA.
IF THE D.A.s GOT OFF THEIR ASS
AND DID THEIR JOBS TO PROSECUTE
THE LAWS ON THE BOOKS?
WE MIGHT HAVE IMPACT ON VIOLENT
CRIME.
ELIZABETH: THAT’S A THOUGHT.
WE’LL HAVE YOU BACK ON TO TALK