welcome to 60 days insider i'm dan abrams
tonight we're taking an in-depth look at our phase two participants lives inside the
clark county jail as they try to survive 60 days in sorry i'm going to say is that right
the danger is no longer hypothetical at this point we're going to
we're here in the studio with phase one participants barbara and tammy who are together
for the first time since season one thank you both for coming in have you guys been in touch since
season one ended yup oh yeah we talk regularly it's very important for me to have someone in
my life who went through a similar experience so i like to call barbara as often as i can what's
it like for each of you let me start with you barbara watching season two so far it's been tough
watching season two because it brings me back to my place in jail and going through it those first
few weeks and how hard it is and emotional it is and it gives me chills to watch it and i'm scared
for these participants tammy i heard you talking about the sounds that you remember from the pod
yes listening to these girls scream is still fresh in my mind because those sounds are something that
will never ever leave me i just kind of get a chill up my spine saying um yeah remember that
how do you think season two thus far compares to season one i think season two might be amped
up even more than season one it looks like they might have a more difficult time than even i did
you agree tammy i agree i mean it's a younger crowd it's a younger dynamic than what we had
tammy you and sheree are similar in the sense that neither of you want to put up with
a lot from some of the other inmates correct do you see that as well i do see that if it's
about if somebody's hollering they won't come up here and whoop everybody's ass
these girls have no respect for themselves and anything goes in there
and you have to consider the fact that when you're not sleeping you lose patience very very quickly
i can certainly understand her frustration and saying look basically all we want is a little time
to just rest and i think that is where a lot of the um frustration comes i almost envy
the men in some ways because in their situation
it's much more of a physical thing it's like okay we're angry at each other we have our our
physical fight we're done we're over with with women it's much more of an emotional
situation where we're gonna get to you in any way that we can and you know just mess with your
i might mind ashley's never been in a facility like this i'm like oh i gotta protect this one
for the most part you guys stuck together how important do you think it is tammy for
sheree and ashley to stick together i think it's extremely important from ashley's perspective if
she's going to stay on her path of sobriety she's going to need that support and i think
from cherie's perspective if she is going to be someone who is going to want to continue
to confront these girls in the pod she's going to need an ally how hard was it for you barbara to
turn a blind eye to the drugs it's really hard because you want to step in and say don't do
that you know let's let's i'll help you we can change make your life better you know
life is so short let's if you change you know get out of jail and don't come back
ashley and sheree had what seemed like a moment of triumph
and then minutes later it's back to where they were
were you surprised to see that absolutely not i know that feeling all too well that same thing
happened to you guys time and time time and time again you calling the ceos for help and they're
not there they don't change the situation you are literally stuck in there to fend for yourself
so you guys were not surprised to see those women brought right back in
nope i can't believe they just got away with that they're not accountable for their actions in jail
ladies seriously i can smell the smoke from here we see ashley pointing upstairs to where
women are smoking do you think too risky uh yeah risky because
you know what if any of those girls had seen her doing that i would fear that she would have gotten
her butt kicked or if maybe one of her soulmates weren't trustworthy went upstairs and told him oh
ashley's been pointing upstairs oh frisky yeah i'm going still myself she bears the right clothes
what does ashley need to do now do you think to be able to survive the rest of the program i think
that she needs to keep to herself she needs to rely heavily on her friendship with cherie
um she needs to keep talking to zach as much as she can and just keep working through your
relationship like it is so hard while you're incarcerated to have that marriage and have
your family at home away from you but just keep working through it and you'll get through it
so barbara what have you been up to since the show aired i've made some life choices that i
wouldn't have made otherwise tell me about the new life choices you've made well i'm going into
law enforcement become a police officer yep i've decided that i'm going to become a police officer
tammy you're pretty shocked i am gotta say it worries me a little bit why
just worrying about you and the impact that i know that it has on your family and your children
it's a big decision to make what was it about your experience
in jail that helped direct you to this path it made me realize what is important
i want a meaningful life and i want to be there to help someone when they call for help and i
just felt like i wasn't leading a meaningful life tammy it sounds like a pretty good reason
let's talk about brian for a minute eventually daphron
calls him a [ __ ] which is a big and meaningful word brian ryan sorry i'm gonna sing is that right
based on what you've seen from brian so far are you expecting
he's out i think that brian wants to go home safe to his
family so i'm gonna predict that he's gonna leave over in c-pod we saw a vicious fight
quentin watching it
having very mixed feelings about what he can and should do as a police officer
yourself what do you think is going through quentin's mind i know he's fighting every
instinct that he has in his body not to get up and i separate them or you know pull one
guy off the other or you know pull off the the aggressor that is a really difficult
position to be placed in i really feel for him in that particular situation
it almost seems like jail got real for dion when he gets woken up with this huge fight going on
it was unfortunate that he had to see the fight but i think that it was a good thing
he did because i think it brought it back down to earth and made him realize that
this project that you have signed up for is real it's very dangerous and you always
need to stay on your toes and watch your back don't ever feel safe barbara any concerns for
cherie ashley or mona lisa i really hope that they can sort out the problem with the girls
upstairs and i hope that actually gets some rest what about ryan tammy too close to the other
inmates already when you enter into this program nobody gives you a manual you kind of have to find
your groove and you gotta if somebody's taking you under their wing sometimes it just happens