It's coming. We know in the year two thousand,
the Lord will take us into the kingdom of heaven.
Following Brother Lin and walking the path he led,
will make us overcomers and we will be raptured!
Now it seems that we don't know God's voice,
nor do we accept what the Spirit says to the churches.
How can we hope to receive God's new name?
How can we be the Philadelphia Church, be raptured before Him?
Only God's words are truth. Only God's words can be man's life.
Man's word, no matter how pleasant it is, is not the truth.
And man's spiritual theory,
no matter how profound it is, can't purify or change man,
which can only deceive and corrupt us, and harm.
Men used by God are not God incarnate,
and don't have the divine substance or the truth and life,
so they're unable to do God's work of saving man.
Men used by God can only assist with God's work, which is their duty as a man.
But religious leaders, though respected, are not those who are used by God.
Only Christ is the truth, the way, and the life.
This is because Christ has divine substance,
and He does God's work on behalf of God.
It's only Christ who can perfect man and save man.
Worshiping man, praising man, obeying man is the same thing as betraying God!
Only accepting the judgment and chastisement from Christ
and attaining perfection
is truly being raptured into the kingdom of heaven.
Just those who accept Almighty God's judgment and chastisement
are made overcomers.
And they'll have a place in the kingdom of heaven.
Hallelujah! (Amen!)
Brothers and sisters, those of the Local Church are greatly blessed! (Amen!)
Brother Lin has delivered a message to all of us here. That's amazing!
Two thousand is the year that the Lord is coming to take us!
Amen!
Now then, we have been given some signs,
and from them we can say with some certainty.
The Lord is at the doors!
Amen!
We are the generation of the last days. A most blessed generation! (Amen!)
Each of us, in body and soul will be saved, be raptured alive!
Amen!
Hallelujah! (Amen!)
Brothers and sisters, the day the Lord arrives is at hand.
Maybe He'll return for us the day our praise reaches its peak!
Amen!
Furthermore, with the time we have left here, we have work to do.
We must each be an overcomer, entering into a God-man life,
ready for the rapture! (Amen!)
Brothers and sisters, Amen!
Amen.
It says in the Bible,
Amen!
If we want the Lord's promises, there's a price that we pay. (Yes, absolutely.)
We know that but as long as we work hard and forsake all things.
If we suffer for the Lord,
then at the right time, He will reward us and we will rule with Him!
Amen!
In the future, some of us will rule five cities at one time!
And some, some will rule ten of them!
Amen!
That's right! At that time, we'll be kings ruling with God!
Amen!
I heard that your daughter is evangelizing now. She's not going to college.
It's such a crucial time. Pursuing life will serve her well.
She's out of high school, so she's an adult. She wants to pursue life.
Because soon we will all be raptured!
I agree. Focus on life. (Yes!)
Hey, did you really just quit your job?
Yeah, I have all I need. I figured I should live for God.
What matters a lot is to pursue life.
It is the way to go. I don't want to miss out on the rapture!
You're right. If we gain life, we'll be raptured.
What a blessing it is! (Right.)
Hallelujah!
Amen!
Praise the Lord! Let us now break bread. (Amen!)
The year went by. The Lord never came.
The church has suffered a lot and so have I.
Few people show up. They've lost their faith.
For the meeting, hardly anybody came.
I know. The church has taken a hit. It's not just us.
Yes, you're right. I've been to several meetings.
It seems some churches are thinking of splitting.
Many co-workers are reflecting. They're doubting their path.
They're not sure if it's right.
Everyone has a different point of view and the debates are becoming heated.
They all are quite arrogant, quite conceited.
They're vying for power, many of them. They've started forming factions.
I think we may be going our separate ways.
During all of these years,
our church appears prosperous outwardly, yet we have no life entry at all.
Could it be that it's the Holy Spirit who's guiding our efforts?
Maybe not. It's just man's work.
Paul said that to him to live is Christ.
Brother Lin said "God became man that man may become God."
Do you think that's true? That man could be Christ, be God?
Is it true that's what God wants for us?
And why aren't we sent some confirmation?
Everyone desires to be Christ, to be God. Does it mean we believe?
I'm afraid that we've reached an impasse.
The people's fire was from wanting to be God-like,
to become as one with God and to rule with Him.
Do you think that's all right?
It seems to me that's not believing in God, but wanting power and position.
Do you see what I'm trying to say?
I have a bad feeling about all this. It seems wrong, the path I mean.
You said something that Paul said that to him to live was Christ.
Brother Lin said we can become God and Christ. We just don't have God's person.
I get it. This may be a problem.
To be honest, I'm not sure.
But I'm wondering why were we not raptured in 2000?
Did the Lord just not return? Or are we walking on the wrong path?
I wish I knew.
We've followed Brother Lin's path for so long.
We're not transformed at all. We've become arrogant.
We're more self-conceited than ever. Think about it.
It's worse with some.
Some people think they're God, and feel others should obey them.
They're no different from the archangel.
Is that pursuit in accordance with God's heart?
Brother Lin wasn't raptured alive. He passed away instead. Imagine…
That's sure a hard pill to swallow.
Someone like him…
Brother Lin devoted his life, yet didn't become an overcomer.
You and I, what hope do we have?
I feel we should keep searching the truth.
Yes.
If we can't solve these problems, well then, the church will stay empty.
We can't let that happen.
Now the time has come to settle these things.
Brother Lin raised the theory to try and be like Christ.
If that thought comes from God, shouldn't it be blessed by God?
Why did he die instead?
We should figure that out.
I think that's important. (Mm.)
For we know, if this path comes from God and is led by the Holy Spirit,
then it should never end up like this.
If it comes from Satan or from mankind, it will destroy itself in the end.
Zhigang, what do you think?
Is God revealing Himself? Will this matter show us His will?
I think that may be the case.
So then were we on the wrong path?
If so, we do need to seek the truth.
But let's keep this between us for the time being.
Later on, we can reveal it to others, show them the way.
We've done well, so why is the church suddenly empty? Who can explain it?
Tell me what does God want us to see?
What does he mean by that?
Everyone, I think we need to reflect.
Some introspection couldn't hurt. (Yes.)
I've been having trouble with something. It's Brother Lin.
Why did he die? What happened?
God rules over everything.
If He's truly guiding us to this path,
why did this happen?
How could he say such a thing?
Am I wrong? You disagree?
You're not wrong.
Brother Lin wasn't raptured alive.
No. Maybe we're on the wrong path after all.
We need to look harder.
Would God save man in order to make him God?
I don't know. Why have we failed? (Yes, why?)
It's a problem. That's not what God wants.
All that from God will thrive while that from man will perish. It is definite.
That is what the Bible says.
Wait a minute. I'm not sure that I agree.
Why are we making this so complicated?
What's he talking about?
You don't think this is important?
Amen.
Everyone, we weren't raptured. So something's not right.
Maybe, the message is from man, not from the Holy Spirit.
And yet, the Lord's promise is real.
Just because we weren't raptured, doesn't mean we won't ever be.
Amen.
Remember the prophecy in Revelation. Firstfruits are reaped before the harvest.
They'll accept the blessings of the new Jerusalem.
And the overcomers, they're the firstfruits. (Amen.)
What we do now is become overcomers. We don't give up. (Amen.)
We should never doubt it. (Amen.)
Brother Zhao's right. We should be overcomers I believe.
The Lord desires it, so we do it.
Brother Lin's made clear the path for us to pursue. We know what we must do.
As long as we stay on the path that we were given, we'll be overcomers. (Amen.)
Don't forget we have morning watch,
practice the vital groups in meetings,
and try to mingle our spirits with the Lord's.
We've always done this. And even so, nothing's different.
I agree. Yeah.
I don't think that we're on the right path to becoming overcomers.
How can you say it won't work? (Yeah!)
Brother Lin said if we can digest and assimilate the Lord's words,
and then receive the Spirit's work within,
through praying, studying, reciting and preaching,
we'll have the overcoming life.
And once we've achieved that, we'll succeed!
We'll overcome Satan! We'll overcome the world!
Isn't that what overcomers mean? (Amen!)
So if we stay on the path that Brother Lin showed us,
then we will finally become overcomers!
Then we just need to give it some more time! (Yes.)
I don't see the problem! (Me neither. It's true!)
Brother Ma! Brother Sun!
We've followed this path for over a decade.
And so far, we've achieved little.
There's been no confirmation from the Holy Spirit.
We've all learned the Bible, the verses, and that's all fine.
But who here's renewed?
Who has become an overcomer?
Not one of us!
It's true. You must agree.
Brother Lin was never raptured alive to be an overcomer.
What hope do the rest of us have? How can we expect better?
So what do we do about it?
Quiet down!
Everyone, we know Brother Lin died. He wasn't raptured.
But it doesn't prove anything. It doesn't mean we're on the wrong path.
We should still call on the Lord's name,
and read His words, exercise our minds and spirits.
Thus we will live out the life of God, become the overcomers in this age,
and be raptured alive to meet the Lord! (Amen!)
In this crucial time, we co-workers,
should sustain the brothers and sisters and strive to strengthen their faith,
thus we are faithful to the Lord! (Amen!)
Of course we're all concerned. It's normal.
But we should trust in the Lord and try to be hopeful. (Amen!)
Sorry, but I don't get it. It doesn't make sense.
If Brother Lin was right, then why wasn't he raptured?
Are you so sure if we follow this path, the same won't happen to us?
If it is the right path,
then where's the Holy Spirit? Where is His guidance?
And where is God's blessing?
Well? Brother Zhao, how do you explain it?
Recently, I've carefully studied the Bible prophecies for the Lord's return.
The thing is, they've been fulfilled.
So then, what does it mean? That the Lord's come back?
What?
It's just that we're not raptured. Maybe others have gone first.
Hmm. It could happen.
But if other churches get raptured,
does it mean that our church took the wrong path, was forsaken by the Lord?
Then where does the Lord appear to work?
Should we sit down? (Mm.)
This is what I think.
It says in Revelation,
In that case, in the last days,
God should be incarnated as the Son of man and speak to us.
Mm. Amen.
The Lord Jesus also said,
Therefore, we should be wise virgins, searching for God's voice.
Where the words of the Holy Spirit are heard, there is the voice of God,
and God's appearance and work.
Only when we hear Him and accept His works and return before His throne,
have we truly been raptured. (Mm.)
I think to be raptured
is to accept the incarnate Son of man and come before God.
That's what I think it means. (Mm.)
If we don't accept the Lord's return,
we'll be forsaken and won't be raptured. (Mm.)
I agree.
The Lord was incarnated as the Son of man to work here on earth.
If we want to be raptured, we have to accept the incarnate Son of man.
We should be wise virgins and search out God's voice.
If we find God and accept Him, then we're truly raptured.
Mm. Amen.
Brother Guo, the Holy Spirit shines in you.
Praise the Lord.
You explained what the "rapture" means.
It means the Lord comes to earth to look for us.
When we hear His voice, we return before Him. We are raptured.
Not that He stands in the air and takes us to heaven.
That's man's notion and imagination. We made it up.
Mm. Sure. According to the prophecy in Revelation,
the Philadelphia Church would be raptured.
As we know, it also says in Revelation,
"My new name" must mean that the Lord will have a new name when He returns.
The church that can hear God's voice, accept God's new name
is the Philadelphia Church.
They're the only church who're truly raptured.
Those who acknowledge the Lord's return are the raptured ones,
and the ones who will feast with Him.
Mm. Yes.
Those who can't hear Him or accept His new name, they'll be forsaken.
It's the enlightenment from the Holy Spirit.
Yes, I agree.
Xiangyi.
Yes.
So we've heard your testimony and read some words of Almighty God.
We feel we've learned a lot!
Thanks be to God! (Yeah.)
They're the important truths of knowing God and life entry. (Mm.)
Almighty God's word has truly opened my eyes,
showing me the mystery concerning the way of eternal life.
It's really helped to clear up my confusion. (It has.)
I truly see that only the incarnate Christ can grant eternal life. (Amen.)
Only Almighty God can save us
from the deception and restriction of the hypocritical Pharisees,
and bring us before His throne. (Amen. Yes.)
It is truly God's grace. (Amen.)
Praise God.
Before, I believed in the Lord nominally.
Actually, I followed man and took the wrong path.
It's true.
It's Almighty God's word that shows me the right direction.
It leads me onto the right path of belief,
the path of pursuing the truth to be saved.
Praise God.
Almighty God is truly the returned Jesus. I totally accept.
Praise God.
I'm willing to devote myself to spreading the kingdom gospel of Almighty God,
to dedicate my life.
Praise Almighty God!
Wonderful! (Yes, it is.)
Brother, those in the Local Church,
know much about the Bible and spiritual doctrine.
Yes.
The thing is they're very arrogant.
They won't accept the truth, without much help.
Right. (Mm.)
But through all that you have sought, Almighty God's word and our fellowship,
you can feel that God's word is the reality of all truth,
and can be sure it's God's expression, God's voice.
Such a quick and pure understanding
is only found in those who have quite a good caliber. (Yes.)
Since you accept Almighty God, you've already been raptured before God's throne.
Really?
If you can very eagerly eat and drink God's word, experience His work,
then you are attending the feast of the Lamb.
And you could be made overcomers before the disaster.
Thanks be to God.
What an amazing blessing! (Yes!)
Thanks be to God! (Praise God!)
Only by accepting Almighty God can you achieve this!
Amen. (Praise God!)
We've believed for so long
and always yearned for being caught up to meet the Lord in the air.
It sounds silly and it's our notion and imagination.
Sure.
We hear the truth expressed by Almighty God and luckily we awaken.
We feel blessed that He saved us from our imagination and showed us the way.
Mm. Thanks be to God.
If it hadn't been for your preaching,
testifying Almighty God's work in the last days,
we would've stayed in religion and lived in darkness.
Believing in God in religion,
makes it easy for us to follow men, worship men and be deceived by them.
Sure.
All the years, we were following Brother Lin. We were wrong.
His God-man theory is so deceptive.
And it has harmed our brothers and sisters so deeply.
Yes.
I'm glad that we now accept Almighty God.
It's His love for us and His salvation to us.
So we praise Almighty God.
We thank God. (Praise to Him.)
Now in our church,
so many others haven't accepted Almighty God's end-time work yet. (He's right.)
They wrongly believe that "God became man that man may become God."
They hope to live to be Christ and God in the future.
They expect to be raptured by the Lord and reign with Him.
They're more ambitious, more than ever, with the disposition of Satan.
It's tragic really. (It is.)
I'd like them to know of Almighty God, His gospel.
Wonderful!
I wonder if I could use your help?
That's great! (Praise God.)
We're here when you need us and glad to help.
Great!
Praise God!
Well then, to bring others in our church before Almighty God,
they first must see that their God-man theory is erroneous, as wrong as can be.
After that we can gradually dissect the other errors in the Local Church,
convincing them finally, so they will truly be awakened, (Right.)
and reflect on the wrong path they are walking. (Right.)
And then,
they'll truly seek and accept the work of Almighty God in the last days. (Mm.)
Mm.
I'm afraid that it won't be easy.
These are people who worship Brother Lin. (Mm.)
That's right.
For years now, they've read the words he wrote.
They believe they're experts on the Bible.
They're arrogant as a result, conceited.
So it'll take some time. Just be patient.
Unless you make the truth clear, they won't be convinced. (Yeah!)
You'd better get ready for it.
Almighty God's word can conquer all of humankind, (Mm.)
except for the absurd ones unable to know the truth.
There's nothing we can do for them.
Right.
We know some about your church, a couple things.
We know they worship man a lot and they know the Bible well.
It'll be difficult for them to accept the true way.
True. (That's right.)
First impressions are strong.
Yeah, sure.
Besides, since they're already familiar with the Bible,
they feel they know everything, quite conceited.
Mm.
It will be quite difficult for them to be raptured.
It can be said they're facing great danger.
With the disposition of the archangel,
how could they obey and accept the incarnate Christ?
Mm.
In my eyes, if they make it, it is a rapture in peril.
Everyone, we have believed in the Lord in the Local Church for a long time.
And we've held tight to the view "God became man that man may become God"
as our highest vision, haven't we?
All of us who belong to the Local Church
have tried to live to be God and Christ.
We want to reign side by side with God. (Yes.)
However, whether it is a path that's after God's heart, I have doubts.
Therefore, I've invited two brothers of the Church of Almighty God here.
They will discuss with us and help us to sort out
the viewpoint of "God became man that man may become God,"
and if it's really in accordance with God's will or the truth. (Yes.)
Ask yourself, can humans become God? And become Christ?
If we can answer that, just imagine, the rest is simple.
Go on then. Let's clear this up.
Yes, I'm eager as well. I want to know the answer.
I do too.
Brother Guo.
"God became man that man may become God"
is our highest vision given to us by Brother Lin.
You're not saying you doubt it?
Brother Lin taught us that and he made it pretty clear.
If we follow the path he showed us, we can become God and Christ.
There's nothing for us to doubt!
Brother Ma,
I'd like to say that I've given this a lot of thought. Just consider this.
I don't think this vision comes from God.
Because if it does,
we should have the confirmation from the Holy Spirit's work.
Amen. (Right.)
But in our experience, we never feel the confirmation from the Holy Spirit.
He's right.
What's more, this is important, in which case, it should be in the Bible.
It should be confirmed by the Lord and the Holy Spirit.
But there's nothing about it in the Bible. Ask yourselves why.
You see, how can we not have doubts then?
Yeah. I have to admit the God-man theory always confused me.
Because I've lived by it for so long,
yet nothing has changed, much less improved.
It seems it's not confirmed by the Holy Spirit.
I feel this view comes from man's mind, from his imagination.
Yes. If it's the work of the Holy Spirit,
then we should've seen some change and some progress after so long.
Right. (Yes.)
But there's been no growth. Instead we are arrogant, quite conceited.
That's right. Yes.
We consider ourselves spiritual, the son of God, the manifestation of God.
Instead of being obedient to Him,
we expect others to obey us and treat us as God.
Our disposition is more like the archangel.
In that sense, we're way off. (Yes.)
That's what the problem is. See what I mean?
Yeah. Honestly, when I first heard this view from Brother Lin,
I wondered how can man be God.
Later, he fellowshiped that God is a life-bestowing God.
He bestows His life disposition upon man, so we can become God.
It seemed to make sense, but after so many years,
tell me, what evidence have we seen?
We've seen no one who's truly lived out God's life disposition.
Even Brother Lin himself didn't succeed in living out God's life disposition.
It's true.
So I'm convinced now that this viewpoint isn't from God.
It came from man. We created it, and it's our imagination. (Right.)
After discussing this with Brother Yang from the Church of Almighty God,
I felt much clearer.
God created man and man is man in substance.
Right. Amen.
After man's corruption, God started His management work of saving man.
God would finally make us ones who are after His heart, obey and worship Him.
Mm.
God presents His will so clearly and plainly.
He redeemed in the Age of Grace, judges, and purifies in the last days,
all of which is to save us from Satan's influence and corruption,
and make us holy, the way He intended. (Right.)
God won't make corrupt mankind into Gods.
So in that case,
the viewpoint that we've held for years now is from corrupt man's mind.
It greatly contradicts what God wanted.
It's a vast misinterpretation, and it seems to me that it's actually heresy!
Brother Guo.
"God became man that man may become God"
is the highest vision in Brother Lin's preachings. (Amen.)
It's true God created man. His plan is obvious. He wanted man to become God.
And as man didn't have God's life disposition,
it was easy for Satan to tempt him.
God saving us is to dispense His life disposition into us.
Tell me then, if we have God's life disposition, don't we then become God?
Amen!
That's all. Is there anything wrong?
Right!
God became man that He could dispense His life into us.
When we have the life of God, then we become God.
Am I wrong? I think not!
Brother Sun, it's hard to say.
We said it already. We've tried this without any results.
Right. It's true.
That's what we've said for a while. No results at all.
Everyone, that's why they're here with us. I think they'll have some answers.
Well, we could use some.
Believers in your church said "God became man so that man may become God."
The meaning of your words is
that God is incarnated as a man just in order to make man God.
According to the viewpoint your church has held,
God's creating man is also to make them God.
Now ask yourselves, is this really what God wants?
We should really measure it according to God's words. (Yes. That's true.)
At the creation,
God's words tell us clearly
what God created is man, living man with a spirit, who is a created being.
Mm. Yes.
And man is created to rule over all living things on the earth
to glorify and manifest God. (Amen.)
I think we need to focus more on God's word.
When creating man,
God never says that He made God, (That's right.)
much less that He created man in order to make him God.
That's true.
If someone misinterprets God's word, taking creating man for creating God,
what problem is this?
Is it merely distorting the facts? Misinterpreting God's word?
Or is there unspeakable malintent behind it?
We all know God is the Creator and man is His creation. (Mm.)
Man and God are totally different in substance.
Right. Yes.
Just as Almighty God says,
Amen.
God's word is one hundred percent the truth. (Yes.)
He's both faithful and honest, without any deception in Him. (Yes. Amen.)
So God's word is eternal truth. It is entirely without fault.
This is good.
God said He made man in His image, so He made man.
Why think that He made God then?
That's something the archangel would say,
because the archangel always desires to be God and to be equal.
Satan is a great corruptor. All it needs to do to deceive us
is let us misinterpret God's word and then let us follow it.
So we've misunderstood
as the words of God creating God.
It’s a grave resistance and blasphemy against God, a gravest offense to Him.
Yes.
If one misinterprets God's word carelessly and distorts the facts,
this is a serious problem.
It's not just a simple problem of misinterpreting God's word.
If that comes from Satan, it could be very grave.
Right!
So your words that
"God became man that man may become God" is false, illogical.
It's our own misinterpretation out of Satan.
Yes.
We need to see this fact clearly.
If one doesn't repent and holds on to this view,
I promise the outcome is dire. (Amen.)
Ah, it's blowing.
Thinking God's creating man is creating God is blasphemous.
Yes, the nature of this is serious. (It is!)
Everyone, what's the thing we should seek above all else?
We need to understand God's will.
What kind of result is God after,
when He strives to redeem and save mankind?
I'm asking what kind of man does God hope to make in the end?
It's a vision for believers. It involves the truth of God's work.
And the path that we choose to follow
must be in accordance with the word of God.
Never should we be deceived into following man
and walking the path of resisting God.
He's right. Right.
We should know by now that after mankind's corruption,
we lose the glory of God and the testimony to Him.
All that man lives out is corrupt satanic disposition. No human likeness at all.
We've become devils who disobey, who resist and even betray our God.
It's a fact.
In order to save mankind,
God was incarnated in the Age of Grace and offered Himself up
so that we would be redeemed.
Now in the Age of Kingdom,
God is incarnated again in order to bring judgment in the last days,
and express the truth that will purify and save us.
So then, man can gain truth and cast away all of the old corruption,
live out a meaningful life and enter into rest. (Right.)
This is what God hopes to achieve by saving mankind.
Amen.
So there's hope.
Shall we read the word of Almighty God?
Allow me. (Mm.)
According to the words of Almighty God,
we're sure that the aim of managing mankind with the three stages of work,
is to make a group who know God, obey God and testify God.
God has been incarnated twice
for the purpose of saving man completely from the influence of Satan,
so that man can attain sanctity and be of the same mind with God. (Mm.)
God's word has explained it quite clearly and quite thoroughly.
In that case, the work of God is definitely not to make man God. (Mm.)
From the beginning of God's management to the last days,
all the former saints approved by God and blessed by Him
are those who align with His heart.
Saints like Abraham and Job and Peter and so on,
they have God's approval and blessing as proof.
These people were regarded very highly and emulated
by other saints throughout the ages. (Mm.)
It's safe to say they're in the kingdom of heaven.
But did God say these people are God?
He didn't. (Mm-hm.)
Right. Never has God made such a claim.
He only said that they had the greatest faith,
were perfect in that they feared God and shunned all evil and knew God.
Clearly, this is the best we can hope for for ourselves.
This is why He saved us. (Right.)
God hopes that one day we can become like Abraham and Job,
and the perfected man will be like Peter who knows God.
Amen!
This is the truth. It says so right in the Bible. It can't be refuted.
That's right. Amen!
We're fortunate that the will of God has been made clear.
Those approved and blessed by Him
are the ones that He'll make complete in the end. (Right.)
They're the ones He'll gain in the end.
You see our belief in God should be based on God’s requirements.
Take Abraham, take Job and Peter as our examples,
seek truth fervently and obey God's work, and we will be perfected.
Amen!
This is the path we should take as believers.
Right!
So it's proven we weren't made for the purpose of becoming God.
Mm. Right.
In addition, this was never mentioned by Jehovah God in the Age of Law. (Mm.)
And yet again, Jesus didn't mention it in the Age of Grace.
In the Age of Kingdom, Almighty God makes it more clear for us.
He never said He'd make man into God.
Right. Yes. I agree.
Therefore, we can be sure
that your viewpoint about man becoming God did not originate from God Himself.
It's from man's imagination, out of Satan.
Right. Yes.
Brothers and sisters, God's disposition cannot be offended.
Satan wanted to be God and considered itself equal.
God was offended by this. Therefore, Satan was struck down in midair.
If man tries to become God, isn't that from Satan?
Isn't that the point of view of the archangel? Isn't it mankind's own desire?
You're right!
It's the truth.
What they say makes sense.
God created man so that man could glorify God and testify God.
God has never said He will make man into God.
We believed Brother Lin
when he said that "God created man so that man becomes God."
We believed them as God's own words.
But now it seems they were never God's words at all.
Yes.
I for one agree. It makes sense to me.
God was incarnated, so He could save us from sin, (Right.)
so we can become holy and be after His heart. (Mm-hm.)
It's clear now that God never meant to make us God.
I agree. There's no doubt in my mind now.
It seems that the viewpoint we've held on to for years never came from God.
You're right. It's from man and it's from Satan. (Right.)
Man wanting to be God, that's man's own ambition, right? (Yes.)
It's the archangel's disposition!
I totally agree. (Yes.)
I can't believe that our viewpoint that we've been following for our whole lives
never came from God. (I know.)
The hard part is realizing that Brother Lin could steer us wrong.
I know.
It goes to show that man is unreliable.
Well, I've thought that for a while. (I've thought that too.)
So does this mean that we've been on the wrong path all along?
Yes, we took the wrong one.
Can you imagine?
How dangerous it is!
Brother Meng, Brother Yang. I've listened to what you've told us. I agree.
Praise God.
And the words of Almighty God are all truth, I believe. No doubt about it.
But what then do we make of God's words in Genesis?
I don't get it.
Since God made man in His own image,
does that then mean that we have the image of God?
If it's true, are we man or God? Which is correct? I can't tell.
I can't clear it in my mind. Could you help me with it?
God made man in His image. We know that He said this Himself. So is it wrong?
Since it's in His own image that God made man,
it follows that we should have His image!
So then isn't man the same as God?
Tell me how that's wrong!
This is getting confusing.
This is what it says in the Bible. Then with God's image, are we God or not?
Now I'm not sure what to think.
It's true we were made in His image.
But is it right to say because of that we are God?
It seems there are differences.
I'm not sure. I don't think I agree.
Because so far, I can't think of any fervent believer who's actually become God.
Mm. Yes.
My understanding of living out God's image is that man could magnify God,
have a heart that reveres Him, submit to Him, worship Him and do His will.
Such a man must be the one in His image and who does His will.
Amen. Thanks be to God.
So uh, though he finally lives out God's image, man is man. (Right.)
Am I way off? That was my opinion.
Brother Meng, could you explain why this is if you don't mind?
Mm. Of course. (Thanks be to God.)
In Genesis, God did say to us,
But He didn't say that He made God in His image or likeness.
That God made man in His image and after His likeness
doesn't mean He would make man into God.
Yes. That's true. That's right.
What does He mean "image"? What do you think He's saying here?
I'm not sure.
The "image" here refers to God's disposition,
what God has and is, the substance of God's life, (Yes.)
and as well as the truth. (Mm.)
If man lives out the truth expressed by God,
this image of truth will then have God's image.
Yes, I think so. I agree too.
As we all know, God's disposition and God's life being
are so rich and full of truth. (Mm.)
What God's work manifests is very limited. (Right.)
So how can we claim that God's disposition and His life being,
can be fully summarized and put clearly by the words expressed by Him?
That's a good point.
Anyone who has experienced God's end-time work and knows Him can confirm
that the truth, what God has and is expressed by God
are just one ten thousandth or one trillionth of God's life disposition.
Yes.
God is the Creator and the source of life for all.
Compared to God's real life disposition,
His being He expresses to us is microscopic.
It's merely a drop in the ocean.
Yes. Absolutely true. That's true.
Actually, we're doing well if we can live out one drop of truth in that ocean.
That's right. (Amen.)
The truth that we can live out is limited.
Even if we spend all our lives pursuing it,
we can never live out all the truth that God's capable of expressing.
Yes. I see.
This has been acknowledged by those who've experienced God's work. (Amen!)
Some day in the future, when God's work ends,
if we can live out the smallest bit of His being, a little of His image,
it still can't be said that we've become God.
It makes sense, right?
Because God is the Creator, the substance of His life can't be fathomed.
Amen.
God created and governs the whole universe.
His life is all-inclusive and fills all things.
We can't describe His greatness using the words that we have. (Yes.)
Yes, I agree.
What God has expressed in the work He does is just a bit of what He is.
There's an infinite amount besides that.
Even if man could live out all the truth that God expresses in His work,
it still won't mean that man obtains God's image,
Amen. He's right. Yes.
much less that he possesses the whole truth or gains the truth. (Right.)
So then, even if man lives out a bit of God's image,
how can we say that he becomes God?
It's not a possibility. (He's right. Definitely not.)
Therefore, that "Man has God's image and can become God" is foundless. (Right.)
It just doesn't compute.
You're right.
If we live out a bit of God's image through our experiencing God's work,
we still won't become God. (Mm.)
Well! Here's an example.
It's not exactly the same, but it still may help.
So there's a son and a father.
The son and the father look a lot alike.
But their characters are different, very different, and their personalities.
Yes. It makes sense. I agree.
Even though they're related,
it's impossible that they have the same attribute.
The paths they walk aren't the same either.
Well said. Exactly. He's right. That was good.
And sometimes, a man can be good but his son not as much. (Mm.)
They may look alike, tied by blood, but they're not the same.
Right! (Mm, right.)
In some families, the father resists God while the son obeys Him and believes.
That's proof enough that looking like someone and sharing a bloodline
doesn't mean you have the same attribute.
Right! Wow, that's a good way to put it. Yeah!
So then, even if we manage to live out a little of God's image,
it doesn't mean that we have the substance of His life.
Man can never become God. That much is clear.
It certainly is clear! God is abundant. (Yeah. Right.)
Say that we live out a little of His image, we still won't be God.
That's exactly it! (That's right. Right.)
Saints such as Abraham and Job and Peter, all bore a resounding witness.
They gained God's approval, and were in the kingdom of heaven. (Mm.)
And yet, God never claimed that they were God as well. (Mm. Right.)
He only says they are the one of the greatest faith,
the one perfected, and the one loving God.
They were examples.
Yes. Right. It's true.
Furthermore, God has never said that man can become God by believing.
The Bible tells us that the archangel wanted to be equal to God.
So God became offended, and then, He struck it into midair. (Yes.)
Therefore, whoever attempts to become God will end up being cursed by God,
just like the archangel. (It's true. Yes.)
In the past, we thought that man with God's image could be God.
After hearing you speak,
it's evident that even with God's image, man cannot become God.
Amen! That's right. Praise God.
Now I'm positive
those who want to become God must have the disposition of the archangel.
Mm. Right.
If we stay on our current path, the consequences would be unthinkable. (Yes.)
In the past, we tried to be God and Christ. Do you see how wrong we were?
We sure were!
We're lucky to have had such fellowship.
Just now you told us
even if man lives out God's image, he still won't ever be God.
I admit that I agree.
By saying that man can be God as long as he lives out His image,
we are not referring to the God with His person as you might imagine,
but we are referring to the God with God's life disposition,
but without God's person.
If we live out God's image,
we'll become God with the life of God, only without God's person.
So, in that sense,
the viewpoint "God became man that man may become God" seems tenable.
Am I wrong to interpret it this way?
Would you mind fellowshiping about it more?
How can it be wrong?
When we live out God's image, then we can become the God with God's life,
only just without His person.
You're saying even if man lives out a bit of God's image,
he'll never become God.
Well now, we don't think so. (Amen.)
God is the Creator. There is only one God as opposed to many.
God's life substance and His disposition are unique to Him.
It's impossible for God to make other Gods, (Right.)
for what He created was mankind whom He'd save and gain finally.
God never claimed that He would make man God.
Mm. That's true. He is right.
Mm.
From Almighty God's words, it's apparent that God is unique.
He is the only true God, not divided into separate persons. (Right.)
God incarnate is God's Spirit which has assumed the flesh to work and save us.
The phrase "God's person" is simply false.
Just as the Lord Jesus said,
So it's confirmed then,
that the thought that God has different persons is fallacy and came from Satan,
with the intention of disrupting God's work.
According to what you say,
God can be the God with His person
and also the God only with life disposition but without His person.
If so, there'd be more than one and He wouldn't be unique. (Yes.)
Therefore, what you're saying is polytheistic,
with no basis in the Bible, no accord with God's word. It's not right.
Yes, I do wonder that sometimes.
Furthermore,
God without His person but with life disposition doesn't even exist. (Mm.)
True believers in God
only want to be saved by Him to break free from Satan's influence
and thus become a man with truth and humanity. (Yes.)
Their goal is to satisfy God. (Yes.)
However, those who wish to be God are Satan, the archangel. (Yes.)
Those who fabricate such fallacies,
claiming man can be God because God became man,
do so on the part of Satan to sabotage God's work.
They are antichrists who deceive man. This is unquestionably true.
Right. Yes. It makes sense.
Their fellowship is practical and seems well-grounded.
God is the only true God. How could different persons exist?
It does follow that saying man can become God is polytheistic,
and goes against the Bible.
God incarnate does His work to save man from sin and from Satan's influence,
and to make them the ones after God's heart,
instead of making man God.
So then, the view that God became man that man may become God is indeed untrue.
That much is clear now.
I'm grateful for the opportunity to give this the attention it deserves.
Had we stayed on a wrong path, I can only imagine the consequences.
Oh, my Lord.
Brothers and sisters, even if man experiences the work of God to the end,
and is able to live out God's image once he's perfected,
he still can't become God. (Yes, I agree.)
Because in the beginning, God created man in His image.
Adam and Eve had God's glory in them. So can we say that Adam and Eve are God?
Right. God never says they're God. He says that they're human.
They did not have the truth and were corrupted by Satan.
The work of God's two incarnations is to save and perfect mankind,
and to make us the all, those with truth and humanity,
so we can worship Him, and obey Him, and become holy people. (That's right.)
It's certainly not to make man God. (That is the truth.)
Let us read the word of Almighty God.
It's true.
So that's it then.
Almighty God's words tell us clearly,
the object of God's salvation in His six-thousand-year management work is man.
Yes.
It is because man began to resist and fell into sins after Satan's corruption.
That's when God began His work of salvation. (Amen.)
The purpose of God's saving mankind is to save us from the influence of Satan,
to have that corrupt disposition cast away,
so that we can obey and worship God as well as be after God's heart.
God never meant to make man God. (Yes.)
And He never said that He would make man God either.
I know. I agree with them. Yes.
Man's been corrupted by Satan.
If we can be saved by God and gain the truth,
become the man with the truth and humanity, and become holy,
then we're more than blessed. (Yes.)
What's the reason that we're still ambitious?
Why can't we just be satisfied with our salvation?
Isn't this Satan's disposition? The archangel's great ambition?
Because of its ambition to be God and to stand equal to God,
God struck the archangel down from heaven. (Yes.)
From this we can see
all those who strive to be God, who spread fallacies about becoming God,
have severely offended God's disposition and committed a heinous crime.
It's Satan's interruption and disturbance of God's work
that continues to corrupt and deceive us, to instigate us, to oppose God.
This is sure to be cursed by God! (Mm. Yes, right.)
Well... So God is unique, and there is one God.
There's no such thing as different persons. (Yes.)
Satan's really good at deception.
We believe in God to gain salvation free from sin, be holy. (Yes.)
It's a simple thought. Satan causes a lot of trouble!
Yes. How hateful. Indeed.
Satan is detestable! (It's clear.)
We used to say "God became man that man may become God,"
and we encouraged others to be God, Christ.
That means we're Satan's accomplice.
We instigated and deceived people to contend for position with God. (Amen.)
We're no different from the antichrist! (Yeah.)
Think of it! What will happen to us? (Yes.)
Thank the Lord!
Imagine it, what if we didn't come here?
We would still be living in deception, desire to be God!
We would still be on the wrong path!
You're right. It's true.
Only Almighty God can save man from the influence of Satan
and show us the way to the right path.
In the future we should listen more to the fellowship
of the brothers and sisters from the Church of Almighty God. (Yes.)
Everyone!
Lord Jesus resurrected after His crucifixion. He became the life-giving Spirit!
Therefore the same life-giving Spirit dwells in each of us.
He blends with our own and they're combined!
So why do you say we won't become God? (Amen.)
Tell me, could this saying also be wrong?
That is what I think. Am I not right? Please fellowship about it.
When you say Jesus became the life-giving Spirit after He resurrected,
are you certain, there's basis for that?
Did the Lord Jesus actually say that after His resurrection?
If the Lord Jesus never said that, then tell me, what gives you the authority?
I've never heard it said Lord Jesus claimed to be the life-giving Spirit.
Neither has the Holy Spirit said.
On what basis are you saying that the Lord Jesus said He's the life-giving One?
Yes, that makes sense.
This is what the Lord Jesus said,
The Lord Jesus didn't say that the life-giving Spirit would come on us.
If it was the life-giving Spirit,
then why didn't He Himself say it?
Man insists on telling us
that the Holy Spirit who comes to work is the life-giving Spirit.
This theory was created by man. (Yes.)
Even if man experiences the Holy Spirit's work and gains life,
he still can't profess the Holy Spirit is the life-giving Spirit. (Mm.)
The Holy Spirit is only the Holy Spirit.
No matter how He works, how He saves and perfects us,
it is still the work of God. (Yes.)
Man shouldn't speak blindly, say unreasonable words,
lest he define the Holy Spirit, God incorrectly.
God incarnate does His work only to redeem and save mankind.
Both before and after the crucifixion,
the Lord Jesus had one goal, to save us, to redeem humanity. (Amen.)
His substance never changed. (Yes.)
Man brushes aside the truth and always studies and limits God.
This is Satan's disposition.
Sure. (Right.)
Let's look at the words of Almighty God.
Let's listen to the word of God. (Right.)
Yes.
From God's words we can deduce
that from the beginning straight through to the end,
God incarnate does the work of redeeming man.
That's right.
All His work is done by one Spirit and it's the Holy Spirit at work. (Amen.)
There's no order of priority in the work of the Holy Spirit.
He does God's work constantly.
And every stage of God's work is performed by the Holy Spirit, (Amen.)
and no man can partake in it.
Mm-hm. Yes.
So man should not define the Holy Spirit's work lightly,
saying it's the work of the Holy Spirit sometimes,
and that of the life-giving Spirit sometimes.
That's completely invalid.
It just doesn't make sense.
Right. Yes. It's true.
We all know the Lord Jesus' work is that of the Holy Spirit.
His Spirit is the Holy Spirit. No doubt about it.
So then, whether it's before or it's after the crucifixion,
we know for certain the same One does His work and that's the Holy Spirit.
He's right. Oh yes.
The Holy Spirit doesn't change. He is forever the Holy Spirit.
No matter how much His work may progress, He's the One who does it. (Mm.)
It's not that the Holy Spirit's work is just sometimes His work,
sometimes that of the life-giving Spirit or the Spirit of the resurrection.
Such a thing doesn't make sense. (Yes.)
The Holy Spirit is almighty and His work is comprehensive.
He can not only express God's voice, but also perform signs and wonders.
He can supply the church and bestow upon man the life and the truth,
save and perfect man, and lead the whole of mankind. (Yes.)
The Holy Spirit is omnipotent, omnipresent, and fills all things.
If we define Him as one or another kind of spirit by His work,
aren't we being ridiculous?
Only false prophets, antichrists and deceivers speak such nonsense.
Absolutely.
Earlier you mentioned,
"God's Spirit indwells in man and is mingled with their spirit to be one."
On what ground did you say that?
Did God ever say that or the Holy Spirit confirm it?
Has anyone's experience or testimony proven it?
When the Lord Jesus did His work,
He never said His Spirit would combine with that of man,
and neither did the Holy Spirit. (You're right.)
And it's not prophesied in the Bible either.
Besides, among all the saints,
can you name one whose spirit combined together with God's Spirit?
Who do you know that can bear such witness?
Who can say? (No one.)
Right. There's no one.
In fact, all those with life experience can attest
that when the Holy Spirit works on man,
He enlightens us to understand the truth in what God says.
He leads us and He moves us to experience God's word,
so we can know God. (Right.)
But the Holy Spirit will never be our life. (I see.)
When we speak to Him through prayer,
He sometimes gives us faith or grants strength.
Sometimes He lets us feel His presence.
Sometimes He reveals His words within us or shows us His will.
But the Holy Spirit will never be man's life. We all acknowledge that fact.
So now, no matter how we pray or try to commune with Him,
it'll never happen that our spirit is mingled with God's. (Mm.)
When the Holy Spirit performs His work,
man can understand the truth, free from Satan's influence,
return to God and be able to obey and worship God.
Then God's work of saving us will be complete. (Mm.)
The Holy Spirit's work will also end. (Yes.)
Because man will have already gained the truth as life, (Mm.)
and the Holy Spirit's purpose will be fulfilled. (Amen. Right. Yes, I agree.)
Therefore,
the saying "man's spirit and God's Spirit are mingled as one" is groundless.
That notion is created by man. (Amen.)
Looking back,
anyone who would say such a thing is indeed disturbing God's work.
They spread fallacies like these to deceive and disturb,
so that people can't understand God's will or His work.
So evil and wicked right? (Yes. Right. It does.)
Satan loves to deceive and mislead.
It uses its fallacy to make us want to become God.
That's how we got the fallacy
that "God became man that man may become God." (Yes.)
It wants to make man believe this is true. (It's right.)
We, God's chosen people, should guard against Satan's scheme. (Yes.)
It's dangerous. (Mm.)
Satan's deceits are blocking our path to the truth. (Yes.)
Without truth and discernment, man will be in for trouble. (That's right.)
It's clear to me now. It's a spiritual fight. (Yes.)
In the past, I was ignorant to this. (Yes.)
The Local Church always taught that we should strive to be God. (Yes.)
We've been on such a wrong path. (Yes.)
Who was it that led us down this path?
Furthermore, was his viewpoint from God or was it from Satan?
We have to choose more carefully from now on. (You're right.)
It's true. We were so careless before.
What Brother Lin said
"The Holy Spirit indwells us and the two spirits are mingled with each other,"
doesn't accord with the Holy Spirit's working principle. (Right.)
He told people to mingle with God, but that doesn't help us in the least bit.
And if you think of it,
it also violates the principle of communing with God in prayer. (Yes. Amen.)
Mankind should at least pray to and fellowship with God as a creature. (Mm.)
We should truly rely on and look up to Him
to know His will in all things so as to love and obey Him.
Only doing so is after God's heart. (Mm. Amen.)
No matter how we practice this theory of the spirits mingling,
we can never know or obey God completely, (Mm.)
much less hope to be compatible with Him. (Yes. Amen. You're right.)
Moreover, if we're constantly mingling,
it will bring about an assumption that we're God's equals,
which tells us that we can be God. (Mm.)
If we keep doing this feeling we're God's equal,
we'll become antichrists and archangels. (Yes. Amen. We will.)
So there's no way this can help us. It's harming us.
It's so dangerous. It's very deceptive.
Brothers and sisters,
actually, the Holy Spirit's at work. He works for our salvation.
And we can all experience that.
The Holy Spirit often illuminates us inside.
He helps us know truth, know God.
And He often admonishes, disciplines, and comforts and guides us,
to lead us to His presence. (Yes.)
Even so, He won't be our life.
But searches and reveals us and helps us know ourselves.
What the Holy Spirit does is the work of saving man.
This is apparent to all of us. (Mm.)
The essence of the Holy Spirit's work
never changes over the ages or in the last days.
So the saying concerning the mingling of two spirits
will never conform to God's actual works. (Sure.)
So far there's been no evidence
that anyone in the Age of Grace had his spirit mingled with God's,
or has lived out His image.
Almighty God has never said
that man's spirit will be mingled with God's in the last days,
so that they can become God alive.
So we can say for sure then that the statement regarding the spirits mingling
has no basis in God's word and comes entirely from man's notion.
It doesn't align with the Holy Spirit's work.
It comes from Satan. It's Satan's deception. (Yes…)
Before, we didn't grasp what work the Holy Spirit will do on us.
But today, it's much more clear to me and I'm grateful for that. (Mm.)
The Holy Spirit's aim is to guide us all to know the truth, enter into reality,
and to one day be holy. (You're right. Yeah.)
Even so, He won't be man's life.
Right, that won't happen.
So then, we all agree that the two spirits won't be mingled.
It's a false statement.
Yes. It is.
No wonder we've never seen any change and after all that time.
Mm-hm. Yes.
Without knowing the Holy Spirit's work and having the truth,
we're easily deceived. (Right.)
Absolutely!
I thought “The Holy Spirit indwells us and our two spirits became one,”
such a spiritual thing. (Mm.)
If they really did so, just think we would become God and be so blessed. (Yes.)
Anyway, it's quite a shock that we were deceived instead of gaining truth.
Yes.
It's scary how effective Satan is. We must always be on guard.
It is so scary.
We once tried to live Christ out and be God. We wanted to be equal to God.
Instead we fell in Satan's trap!
We did. (We sure did.)
We must ask God's forgiveness and pursue the truth from this point on. (Amen.)
Mm, praise His name.
Praise to God.
Praise the Lord. Such fellowship is helpful.
Those of the Local Church desperately need to hear this truth. (Amen. Yes.)
We've been on the wrong path. We were tricked into it.
God's objective is to save mankind. He never intended to make us God.
Yes. (That's right.)
Those who desire to be God, to be Christ are those who resist God.
This offends God's disposition and is cursed by Him.
Yes. They are. It offends Him.
We're thankful for Almighty God.
Were it not for His words, we would have fallen into darkness. (Yeah. Oh yes. Yes.)
I'm grateful for this salvation. (Amen.)
Praise His name! (Mm.)
Brothers and sisters,
now we know God is the Creator and that God is unique, (Yes.)
and we're His creations.
Even if we gain truth as life in the end by experiencing His work,
and can live the image of truth, we can never possibly become God.
Mm-hm. Yes. Right.
Let's read a bit more from the word of Almighty God. (All right. OK.)
Amen!
Almighty God's words are clear. They're easy to understand. (Right.)
God created the heavens and earth and all things and He also created man.
Amen.
God never says that He creates a group of Gods, large and small.
He only said that He created man in His image.
Man is still man, even if with God's image.
Because he was made into man with God's image. (Amen.)
Why does man have to distort God's words?
Is it wrong for God to create man in His image?
Clearly, man has been corrupted by Satan too deeply.
After God's redemption, they still desire to be God just the same. (Yes.)
What's more, they search through God's words to find any evidence they can
to support their own want. (Mm.)
Doesn't this sound just like the archangel?
Recall how the archangel became Satan.
Wasn't it because of its ambition to stand side by side with God?
Yes, it was. Yeah.
After it was cast into midair, it assumed dominion over the earth.
It proceeded to corrupt, to control and deceive us to turn us against God,
and to follow and worship it instead.
This is the result of Satan's corruption of mankind. (Yes.)
How does the theory "God became man that man may become God"
even benefit man?
It doesn't.
It only results in one thing, man's desire to be God's equal. (Mm. Yes.)
Those who have been deceived by this false theory become more arrogant.
I agree.
Then they want people to obey them more,
to obey and worship them as God to satisfy their desire. (That's true.)
This contradicts God's whole goal for saving mankind,
and goes against Him in general. (Amen.)
Where did this theory come from? Something so erroneous?
Did it come from man or originate with Satan?
We should be clear on that. (Mm. Yes. Yes, we do.)
It definitely doesn't come from the Holy Spirit, but is the work of Satan. (Amen.)
I think that it's safe to say that the theory regarding man becoming God
was born of Satan trying to deceive us,
which is unquestionable. (Amen.)
Praise His name.
Almighty God's word is truly practical and every bit is the truth. (Amen.)
It's piercing my heart and soul like a double-edged sword. Praise God.
What Brother Lin taught us God becoming man and man becoming God isn't right.
It's wrong indeed. (I see that now. Yes, so do I.)
His related statements in that case must also be wrong or we can assume.
Yes. Amen.
It saddens me that we've been on the wrong path all this time.
It's serious and it's a problem. (Yes. Amen. Now I understand.)
Now I must examine the path that I'm on.
Brother Meng, Brother Yang,
we have more questions and need to fellowship with you. (Mm. Yes. Sure.)
Almighty God's word is the key to our resolution. That is certain.
Amen. I think so too.
Well then, I want to think all this over.
Praise God. Yes, praise God.
We should meet and discuss this again.
Thank the Lord! (That's great.)
There are a few things I hope you can help with next time. (Yes, of course.)
Let us pray to God in earnest. (Amen.)
Thanks be to God, everyone. (We appreciate your fellowship.)
Praise God!
I hope to hear your sermon again. It was great.
Amen. Thanks be to God. This was wonderful.
Hallelujah! (Amen!)
Everyone, we have some guests today.
From the Church of Almighty God, we have Brother Meng, Brother Yang.
Thanks so much! Hello there! (Hello!)
Thanks God. Thank you for coming. (Praise God.)
Sit down.
This is fantastic. I can't wait to hear what they have to say.
Recently, we had a great meeting.
We learned Almighty God's work from the brothers in the Church of Almighty God.
We were very much edified by the end. (Yes, praise God.)
Also we feel re-built. (Amen.)
We gained more in a few days than we had all the years before. No doubt. (Amen.)
Never before have we heard anything like the truth expressed by Almighty God.
We have gained some great insight and ideas.
I can say they convinced me. (Yes.)
Almighty God's work of judgment is worth our investigation.
Today I've invited the brothers here
to testify to Almighty God's work of judgment.
Enjoy it!
Thanks to God for letting us fellowship with you.
Everyone, our long-awaited Lord Jesus has already returned to us.
He's returned as the incarnate Almighty God.
And the arrival of Almighty God means the Age of Grace is done.
The Age of Kingdom has begun.
Almighty God has expressed all the truth
that purifies, saves and perfects mankind.
He began the work of judgment with God's house.
By the end, He'll have some overcomers.
What God will perfect are those who are of one mind with Him.
He'll then bring them into His kingdom
to receive His eternal promise and blessing.
That is the overcomers will be made
through God's work of judgment in the last days.
So then, whether we're able to accept God's judgment in the last days
will determine whether we'll be raptured before His throne,
and granted entrance to His kingdom.
What? The Lord's returned to make a group of overcomers?
Impossible!
Brother Lin was our leader. He taught the Local Church how to be overcomers.
If we stick to the path he showed us, we'll surely be overcomers! (Amen!)
Overcomers come from the Local Church! (Amen!)
And the Rapture? We're going first!
We can enter the kingdom of heaven when the Lord's back. (Amen!)
You said Almighty God will do the work of judgment to make overcomers.
Impossible!
Amen! As long as we pursue according to the path Brother Lin led,
we'll surely become overcomers
and be taken into the kingdom of heaven! (Amen!)
Hallelujah! (Amen!)
Brothers and sisters, let's not argue with one another! (Right. Yeah!)
Arguing's a sign of arrogance and conceitedness.
When we search for God's appearance and His work,
We should treat it with reverence and seek the truth in all things. (Amen!)
As you know the Local Church has been desolate
without the work of the Holy Spirit.
You've heard the testimony of the Lord's return,
and as the church workers and leaders, you haven't sought it further,
but have been rude and arrogant!
You're the ones who revere God?
This is how you seek knowledge of the Lord's return?
Amen!
We long for the kingdom of heaven. We await the Lord's return. (Yes.)
Only one church in the world, the Church of Almighty God,
says the Lord has returned and has begun the judgment at the house of God.
Yes. Right.
We should try to be clever virgins with a reverence for the Lord.
We should investigate the work of Almighty God which is after the Lord's heart.
Yes. (That’s right.)
Ask anything you like and then we can discuss and fellowship.
Yes. That makes a lot of sense.
All right! Allow me to start.
You testified that God incarnate has come to do the work of judgment,
that is the work to make overcomers.
We believe the Lord Jesus will come to take His believers.
So how could He do the work of judgment and make overcomers? (Amen!)
Brother Lin was raised up and used by God.
He led us to be regenerated, transformed, conformed
and glorified to be overcomers. (Amen!)
We believe that we'll be raptured first! (Amen!)
You testified that only God can make overcomers.
We believe following Brother Lin and walking the path he led
will make us overcomers, (Amen.)
and we will be raptured! (Amen.)
Am I right or not?
Why don't you fellowship about that!
If Lord's words are constituted into us by praying, studying and preaching,
and through regeneration and transformation, we'll be overcomers! (Amen!)
When the Lord comes, we'll be taken into the kingdom of heaven!
As for God incarnate, we don't need Him to perfect us into overcomers.
If the Lord comes and doesn't rapture us into the kingdom of heaven,
then it's not His return!
We won't accept!
Brother Wang, we need to know what the Lord's return really means,
as well as what it means to be raptured, and that what work the Lord will do.
We can't fathom at all, so how then can we define it?
What if it happens Almighty God is the returned Jesus,
and He starts the very work of judgment at the house of God?
If we resist, condemn,
won't we become sinners just like the Pharisees who resisted Lord Jesus?
Even now, I'm not aware of any church or any sect
who says the Lord's returned to do the work of judgment in the last days.
The Church of Almighty God is the only one who says so.
So then, shouldn't we investigate it?
It's so important we really should discuss it.
We can't judge blindly. We have to be careful.
All right. Brother Meng, Brother Yang,
we'd all love to hear, so would you fellowship?
Brother Sun would love an answer to his question!
I can't wait for your profound insights.
I'd like to hear them too.
You said that the path Brother Lin led is to make overcomers
and if we follow the path Brother Lin led, we could be overcomers.
The Lord Jesus comes again to rapture the believers,
so He couldn't do the work of judgment to make overcomers.
Could you tell us what your biblical support is?
Where is the prophecy of the Lord Jesus testifying that?
Those who understand the Bible all know that
God makes overcomers before the disaster.
God incarnate descends in the last days
and He expresses the truth necessary for the judgment,
so He can make a group of overcomers.
The prophecy in Revelation says,
Amen!
And 1 Peter 4:17 says,
The Bible prophesied what the Spirit said to the churches,
the Philadelphia Church's rapture
and the judgment that begins at the house of God.
All this is what the Lord Jesus does when He comes again.
God incarnate descends secretly in the last days,
just to do the work of judgment beginning at God's house and make us overcomers.
Almighty God's utterance The Word Appears in the Flesh,
is what the Spirit says to the churches and is the hidden manna.
The name of Almighty God is God's new name.
The Philadelphia Church accepts the new name of God,
which means they are raptured.
All those who call on the name of Almighty God
and read His words throughout their daily lives,
are raptured before God's throne,
receive the judgment and purification of His words.
They will obtain the truth and overcome Satan to be gained and perfected by God.
The people are truly the overcomers.
It's obvious that God's own work in the last days is to make us overcomers.
It must be done by Him. No one else can. (Yes. Amen.)
I always thought that we were the Philadelphia Church
and that we'd be raptured first.
Now it seems that we don't know God's voice,
nor do we accept what the Spirit says to the churches.
How can we hope to receive God's new name?
How can we be the Philadelphia Church, be raptured before Him?
Brother Lin said overcomers come from the Local Church. How is it possible?
Mm, great question. How is it possible?
Brothers and sisters,
overcomers are made by God incarnate
as He does the work of judgment beginning at God's house in the last days.
It's not only in the Bible, but spelled out clearly by Almighty God.
Maybe we should look at the words of Almighty God.
I'll read it! (Great.)
Mm, interesting. (Mm. Yes.)
Brothers and sisters,
the true overcomers will only be made
through experiencing God's work of judgment.
In the last days, the incarnate Almighty God descends into China secretly,
and does the work of judgment starting at God's house.
Almighty God has expressed all the truth that purifies and saves us
to judge and reveal man's satanic nature that resists God and their true self.
He has revealed to man God’s righteous and holy disposition
and His almightiness and wisdom.
After experiencing the judgment, pruning and trials of God's word,
man has surely witnessed the truth of his ugliness and corruption from Satan,
man's true self, arrogant and self-conceited, full of ambition,
judgmental, selfish and base, crooked and crafty, shirking the truth,
full of false ideas about God
and prone to resisting and betraying Him at any time.
They are definitely Satan's descendants who rebel against God.
They're simply unworthy of living before Him or being saved by Him.
But they've also felt God's word is truth,
falling down in conviction.
They appreciate God's holiness and disposition,
which is not to be defiled or offended. They've learned this through experience.
These people have a real reverence for God.
They're able to obey Him and live by His words.
In the midst of God's chastisement and judgment,
they bear various testimonies of overcoming Satan
and the dark influence of the great red dragon.
Especially some who overcome the cruel persecution of the great red dragon.
All these blessed overcomers
are the fruits of Almighty God's judgment in the last days.
On Mainland China, there's a group of God's overcomers.
This is the ironclad proof! (Amen!)
Just now, you said that the path of Brother Lin would make overcomers of you.
Brother Lin led for many years. Tell me, are there any overcomers among you?
Can Brother Lin do the work of judgment starting at the house of God?
Is his expression the same as what the Spirit says to the churches?
Is it the word of judging man and purifying man?
Actually, Brother Lin was like us, just a corrupt man.
He's not God incarnate and he has no divine substance.
And so he can't express God's word or do the work of judging and purifying.
So tell me how this man can lead you to be overcomers.
He preached to be regenerated, transformed, conformed and glorified.
Now after so many years, what results have you seen?
No matter how closely his preachings conform to man's imagination,
they're still the knowledge of man and nothing else,
which have nothing to do with Almighty God or with His truth.
Also, Brother Lin didn't experience God's end-time judgment.
He wasn't an overcomer.
So how could he lead others on the path to becoming overcomers?
So Brother Lin's path couldn't help you be an overcomer,
regardless of what you told me.
That is against the fact of God’s work, with no proof in God’s words.
It's purely meant to deceive man and it's meant to resist God as well.
Everyone, are you still with me?
Yes. Absolutely. I think it makes sense. Yeah.
You seriously believe this guy?
Brother Lin was…
We spent years following Brother Lin's path. Where did it get us?
No one's an overcomer. That's a fact!
Right. Whether one can lead the path to become overcomers
should be judged by results.
You're right.
Could you tell us what the overcomer is?
Yes, please explain it!
Right. (Yes. Please.)
Brothers and sisters,
what does it mean to be an overcomer?
Which aspects of truth should an overcomer have?
Can we see that clearly? (Mm.)
The way mankind sees it,
if he can labor in work for the Lord and keep His name,
he'll be an overcomer in the end.
But that's not right at all.
Let's see what God has to say. He has standards on being an overcomer.
As chapter 14 in Revelation says,
Now let's see what Almighty God tells us. (Mm.)
Yes.
From the words of God we can see that
overcomers are those who follow the Lamb's footsteps,
who experience God's judgment and refinement in the last days,
grasp the truth and obtain knowledge of God, (Mm.)
who revere God and shun evil. (Amen!)
No matter how Christ works and speaks,
they will obey and be faithful to Him, no matter what.
Under the great red dragon’s ruthless arrest and persecution,
they still eat and drink God's word, performing their duty as a creature.
Even when they are suffering,
they won't complain and they're faithful till death,
bearing God a beautiful and true testimony.
These are the people made overcomers by God's work in the last days.
These are just the victorious male-children prophesied in the Bible.
I've never thought about that. Yes, they are.
You said that we can seek to become overcomers by following Brother Lin.
Then let me say,
you've followed him for many years,
listening to his biblical knowledge and theologies every day.
What do you know of God's work and disposition? Did he teach you?
Do you know the ways Satan attempts to corrupt mankind?
Have you seen through its evil nature and substance?
Do you hate the great red dragon?
Do you have a firm grasp on how it resists and condemns God whenever it can?
Do you have a true knowledge of your own satanic substance and nature?
Have you overcome the flesh and Satan's influence upon it?
Do you honestly revere and obey God while shunning the temptation of evil?
What do you know of God's disposition? Of His inherent disposition?
If God incarnate expresses the truth,
can you commit to obeying Him simply because you heard His voice?
If you don't have these realities of truth, how can you be overcomers?
Does that make any sense to anyone? (Mm. Yes.)
God incarnate has revealed all of those who don't know God.
The entire truth that God expresses,
reveals all of those who don't love the truth.
Those who don't accept God's work of the last days
are the ones who don't know God,
and the arrogant and self-conceited children of Satan.
How can those people be overcomers?
It's impossible. Wouldn't you say so? (I think I would. Yes.)
Oh, Lord, what they say is reasonable and fully convinces me.
The overcomers are indeed made by God's work of judgment in the last days.
I've spent so many years pursuing the truth
according to the path led by Brother Lin. So many years.
In doing so, I was certain that in the end I would become an overcomer.
It never occurred to me that it could all be untrue.
People lacking a firm knowledge of the truth are easily deceived.
How dangerous this is.
That's it!
We've tried to be overcomers. But now, we know we've made no progress at all,
according to the path shown us, shown us by Brother Lin.
Instead of having true knowledge of God or experiencing the truth of His words,
we're becoming more arrogant,
believing that we're superior in spiritual doctrine,
condescending to those of other beliefs.
In reality, we're merely talking about the doctrines of Brother Lin,
rather than obeying the Lord Jesus' word.
This is where we're wrong.
We're worshiping man, obeying the word of man all the time.
We've revered man without any reverence for God.
And we're ambitious in that we want to be God, be Christ.
Isn't that like the archangel? (Yes.)
Aren't we just a bunch of antichrists?
We're not overcomers.
The path led by Brother Lin doesn't make us become overcomers,
but rather deviates from the Lord's way.
In the end, overcomers are made by God's work of judgment,
and not at all made by man.
Yes. That's right. It makes so much sense. Yes. If the path Brother Lin led was really to make overcomers,
we should have seen some result after so many years.
At least he should have been one that would have been a start.
Mm. Right. Yes.
But as we know, even Brother Lin himself wasn't raptured alive.
So the path he led must've been the wrong one.
That's obvious. (It's so obvious.)
In the Local Church, we live a church life.
Regeneration, transformation, conformation and glorification,
these words we shout loud every day.
But so far, we've seen no evidence of this.
Surely, we don't have the Lord's words or His place in our heart.
We've been neglectful in caring for Him.
We have no patience for brothers and sisters.
Instead we envy them. We scheme against them, create conflict.
All we ever wanted is to be enthroned and to rule and become God and Christ.
So what do we expect? How could we be overcomers? (Yes.)
Obviously, man's work can't replace the work of God.
Man thinks they know the Bible, spiritual knowledge and doctrine,
but they still can't do God's work. (Amen.)
If we follow man to the end,
we'll be hypocritical and end up just like the Pharisees,
all arrogant and self-conceited, overbearing antichrists.
Even then, we think we'll be raptured into the kingdom of heaven.
Don't you think we're all dreaming?
Perhaps we are dreaming. Maybe what brother Lin said is not true.
Praise God.
You testify that only God can make overcomers, and it happens in the last days.
No one can replace Him.
You've made it so clear. I accept what you say. Thank you for that.
Praise God!
If you don't mind, could you explain some more?
What's the difference between God's work and the work done by man?
And what's the essential difference
that exists between God incarnate and the people used by God?
Please fellowship.
We know it's the Holy Spirit who guides these people.
And if they're guided by Him, it stands to reason that their work is God's work!
See? There's no difference!
It's true. How is that different?
I don't agree with you.
Because if there wasn't any difference
between the work of God incarnate and that of man,
why didn't God use man to do the redemptive work in the Age of Grace,
but the Lord Jesus did it Himself?
Mm, yes. Yeah, He did.
I wonder if there's some mystery.
Maybe we should ask Brother Meng to fellowship more about that.
Yes. I agree.
That's an important question. Thanks for asking.
Man must know both God's work and His substance
if they want to know God Himself. (Mm. Yes.)
If we're unable to tell God's work from the work of man,
and if we don't see the difference
between God incarnate and the man used by God,
we're highly prone to treat the man we admire as the man that's used by God,
and to treat the work of man as the work done by God.
We follow man but think we are following God.
All the while,
we're unaware we're straying from Him, and we offend His disposition. (Yes.)
For over two thousand years,
nobody could clearly see the difference
between the work and substance of God incarnate and the man God used.
When the last days arrive, Almighty God comes to explain it.
Let's read some of God's words regarding the difference
between the work done by God incarnate and that of man used by God.
Please turn to page 1315.
I'll read it. (Great.)
Amen!
Mm. Yes.
That was great! (Yeah.)
We understand from these words,
both the work of God incarnate and that of the people used by God
are outwardly man's working and speaking.
But there remain some substantial differences in their work.
In appearance, God incarnate is an ordinary and normal man,
but He is the flesh that God's Spirit wears and His substance is divine.
So He can directly express truth,
express God's righteous disposition and what God has and is.
He can disclose the mystery of God's management plan,
and open a new age and end the old age.
All of mankind is moving forward with the work that God's performing.
With God's work comes a new age as the old one ends,
all of mankind moves forward into that new age. (Yes.)
This is sufficient proof
that the work of God incarnate guides the entire age to progress forward.
However, man's work can't open a new age or end the old.
Also, another substantial difference
is that God incarnate's work and His word are expressions of divinity,
not mixed with human thought or logic and reasoning.
It's the original meaning of God's Spirit, not mixed with human will.
Every word God incarnate has expressed is the truth with power and authority,
so they can be man's life and change his disposition.
They can purify and perfect and save him.
Finally, man can be taken into good destination. (Yes. Amen.)
The people used by God, however, are human and not God incarnate.
So they can't usher in a new age or end an old age,
nor can they lead man in the direction of a new age.
Their work is unrelated to God's management.
Instead, they give cooperation in humanity based on God's work,
and fellowship about their experience.
This experience and knowledge represent what man has and is,
with man's imagination, logic, reasoning and all his lessons and so on.
Although most accord with the truth
and can bring man some support, supply and help,
they are not the truth and they can't be man's life.
Only when man's work cooperates with God's work,
can it result in purifying, in saving and perfecting man.
This is the difference
between the work of God incarnate and that of the man that's used by God. (Yes.)
Brothers and sisters,
this will make sense once we look at the facts of God's work and those of man.
When the Lord Jesus came to work,
He said that the kingdom of heaven was near and man should repent.
He did a stage of work of redeeming us,
ushering in the Age of Grace and ending the Age of Law.
So then, the new era of man began then from the Age of Grace.
Lord Jesus expressed His disposition of mercy and love,
so man could be redeemed through the sin offering.
Man was no longer cursed or condemned then,
but qualified to come before God to pray and cry out to Him,
and to enjoy truth and grace given him by God.
After Jesus finished His work and ascended into heaven,
His apostles carried on the work of ministering to man
based on the work and words of Jesus.
They fellowshiped about their experience and knowledge of God's word,
so as to guide the chosen to practice the Lord's word
and spread the Lord's salvation,
established churches and ministered to believers.
They cooperated with God's work according to the word of the Lord Jesus.
They did what He taught them which was performing man's duty.
The letters that they wrote and what they said
told us of their knowledge and experiences
about the word and work of the Lord Jesus.
They were certainly in line with truth,
and yet they still couldn't be seen as equal with the Lord's work and words.
Mm. Yes, absolutely.
Christ of the last days, Almighty God,
comes to start the Age of Kingdom and end the Age of Grace.
The Age of Kingdom begins with Almighty God's work as we know.
Almighty God has carried out the work of judgment beginning with God's house.
He's disclosed all the mysteries of God's six-thousand-year management plan,
expressed all the truth of cleansing and saving mankind,
revealed His holy and righteous substance to mankind,
and His majesty, wrath, and unoffendable disposition,
so as to deliver man from his corrupt disposition and from Satan's influence
and finally bring man to the beautiful destination. (Yes. Thank God.)
Almighty God's work completes God's management plan
and will end the entire old age.
All of His words will be fulfilled and met.
And in the end,
the whole of mankind will acknowledge Almighty God is the only true God
and see how Almighty God's words are fulfilled and end the prior age.
After Almighty God has made a group of overcomers,
all kinds of disasters will strike
and mankind will fall into disasters and trials.
And then, God will descend on a cloud from heaven,
and appear to people of all nations.
This is sufficient
to prove Almighty God's work in the last days is to open and end an age.
The work of the man used by God
is based on both the work and words of Almighty God,
so he can fellowship his knowledge of them,
and so he can shepherd God's chosen people,
and guide them through the pursuit of the truth,
and enter the reality of God's words.
He can lead them to testify publicly the gospel of the descent of the kingdom
to the whole world and to the whole of mankind.
Yes. Yes, I know this.
Man used by God just cooperates with God’s work
and performs his duty based on God's work.
This is how the work of God incarnate
mainly differs from the work of the man used by God.
Each of them has a specific substance that decides it. (Yes. I agree.)
Praise the Lord. Thanks for your help. I get it.
There are essential differences
in the work of God incarnate and the work of men used by God. (Yes.)
God incarnate has the ability to end one age and begin another.
He can directly express the truth and express what God has and is.
Men used by God, no matter what,
can't usher in an age or end the old age.
What they can do is to use God's word and His work as a basis
to share their knowledge and experience with others and perform man's duty.
Yes.
We followed Brother Lin for many years, yet he never made this clear.
So then, it seems that man can't express truth.
You're right. The difference between the two works is really remarkable!
Brother Lin wrote spiritual books and he spoke of many biblical theories.
But think about it: His work never went beyond the scope of Jesus' work.
He didn't end the Age of Grace, nor start the Age of Kingdom.
What does that say? (That's right. It's true.)
Brother Lin was only doing man's work. And not God's work.
Doesn't it seem so obvious now?
Only God incarnate can bring forth the Age of Kingdom
and purify and perfect mankind.
In the past we didn't know about God's work.
We were so impressed with Brother Lin with all his books.
But it's clear we were mistaken. We regarded his work as God's.
We blindly followed and worshiped man.
Thinking back on it, we were so foolish and blind.
Yes, we were.
We don't care if there's a difference
between God incarnate's work and the work of man used by God!
We don't even care if the words of Almighty God are true or not!
All we care about is the Lord Jesus,
and if He descends down on a cloud and lifts us up to the kingdom of heaven!
If not, I would rather go to hell than put up with this!
Hey! Hold on! Don't you think you sound a bit like the Pharisees?
Oh wow, listen to this! There're more Pharisees!
They don't seek truth or God's work!
They just want to resist and condemn it! What are they trying to prove?
Do they believe in the Lord or not? I think maybe they don't!
Brothers and sisters, I think we disrupted the brothers' fellowship.
Maybe we should let them continue.
Brothers and sisters, we just talked about
the work of man used by God as opposed to the work of God incarnate.
I think we're all clear on that.
Next up, another way they're different.
The essential difference between God incarnate and man used by God.
Let's read Almighty God's word and see what we can learn about the two.
Please listen.
Turn to page 1392.
Want me to do it? (Sure.)
Almighty God's words have made it clear
that God incarnate is God's Spirit realized in the flesh.
Although He has normal humanity, His substance is divinity.
The substance of a man used by God is human.
That's all he is. There's not a bit of divine substance.
Christ with divine substance
means that God's innate disposition, His righteous, holy substance,
what God has and what God is, His almightiness, and His wisdom of all things,
as well as His great authority are realized in the flesh.
This flesh is the one with the divine substance,
is the practical God who does His work of saving mankind on earth.
Because Christ has the divine substance,
His emotional state,
and His attitudes, viewpoints and opinions on people, events,
and His thoughts are all truth, all the time,
and the expression of His life disposition along with His holy substance.
Christ can completely represent God, can express God's voice,
God's life disposition, what He has and is in His identity,
and can bestow on man the truth, the way, and the life,
which is way beyond us, way beyond our grasp.
It's because Christ has complete divinity
that He can directly express God's word at any time or place,
rather than convey it like some kind of a prophet.
Christ only expresses truth and does God's work here in the new age.
He never expresses the experience of God's words.
Because Christ has complete divinity, He can express truth at any time
to supply and water and shepherd, lead the whole of mankind.
It's because Christ has complete divinity
that He can undertake the work of God. He can lead mankind and redeem them.
He can conquer them. He can save them and end the whole former age. (Amen.)
But men used by God are human in substance with no divinity, only humanity.
So they can only do man's work, only man's duty.
Although they have the enlightenment from God,
the perfection of the Holy Spirit,
they can merely assist in God's work and share their experience.
Most of their words accord with the truth and edify others,
but they're not the truth and are not on a par with God's words. (Yes.)
Brothers and sisters, we must be clear on this.
What God incarnate does is the initiation and conclusion of an age.
He speaks the entire truth and leads all of mankind.
But the men used by God or having the work of the Holy Spirit
are still not divine.
They're assisting with God's work and doing the duty of man.
What they express are merely the experiences and knowledge of God's words,
and the words in accordance with truth.
Also, no matter how long they work or what they say,
they're just fellowshiping on the experience and the knowledge of God's word.
They exalt and testify about God.
This is the essential difference between God incarnate and men used by God,
or the men who have the work of the Holy Spirit.
Yeah. We know God incarnate has the divine substance.
So then, His word and work is without man's notion, imagination, and logic,
and He directly expresses God's divine being
and the original meaning of God's Spirit.
Just like in the Age of Grace,
Jesus revealed the mystery of the kingdom of heaven.
He brought the way of repentance to man,
expressed the disposition of love and mercy.
All this is the expression of God's Spirit,
as well as His disposition and all that He has and is,
which is beyond the reach of human thinking.
In the last days,
Almighty God expresses all the truth to purify, save, and perfect man.
He displays all of God's holiness to us along with His righteousness,
and reveals all the mysteries of His management plan,
like the mystery of His incarnation,
the difference between the work of God and of man,
the purpose of God's management plan,
the inner truth of God's three stages of work,
the source of man's corruption,
how he should break free from sin and attain God's salvation,
the destination of man, etc.
What Almighty God does is the expression of the divinity,
and the original meaning of God's Spirit,
which cannot be envisioned in the mind of humankind.
The works, words, and disposition of God incarnate are all enough to prove
that the substance of God incarnate is the divine substance.
We must remember His identity is the unique God Himself. (Amen.)
And men used by God can't do the work of divinity in His stead,
nor can they express the original meaning of His spirit.
But they can only assist with the work of God to the best of their ability.
They express their knowledge
and they lead God's chosen to enter the reality of God's word,
testifying and serving Him as man's duty.
Man is able to fathom their work,
and all of their works are attainable in man's mind,
and can be reached by experience. They are what man has and is.
Because both God incarnate and man used by God are very different,
the nature of their work is different, like their substance.
The difference between God incarnate and man used by God
is the difference between God and man.
One is God's substance while the other is man's substance.
Only He with divine substance can do God's work,
while mankind can only do the work of man.
Men used by God are not God incarnate,
and don't have the divine substance or the truth and life,
so they're unable to do God's work of saving man.
Men used by God can only assist with God's work,
which is their duty as a man. (Amen!)
But religious leaders, though respected, are not those who are used by God.
It's something that believers of God need to understand.
Almighty God's words have made it so clear!
Though Christ has normal humanity, the substance of His life is divine.
Right. (Yes.)
His work and words are the direct expression of God's divinity. (Amen.)
Man used by God is that a man with no divinity.
So he can't express truth or do the work of God. (Amen.)
I'm so grateful. We would still be in the dark if it weren't for Almighty God.
He made it clear and I thank God for that.
Amen. Yes. Thank God.
Yes. Christ works and speaks not mixed with human thought, logic or rules.
He expresses the original meaning of God's Spirit.
Man's work is mixed with his own thoughts, notions and conceptions.
Mm. I think
man can't speak the truth to do God's work of judgment and make overcomers.
Amen.
Praise His name.
Everyone, now we understand how God's work and man's work are so different,
as well as how God incarnate differs substantially from man used by God.
But there's more.
We still need to determine the difference between the work of men used by God
and the work of religious leaders and other important figures.
This is also very important.
If we don't know the difference between God's work and the work of men,
or if we can't figure out the difference
between men used by God and hypocritical Pharisees,
we're likely to go astray, follow man and lose the true way.
Just like when the Lord Jesus came to work,
and the whole Jews followed the hypocritical Pharisees and forsook Lord Jesus.
We know Almighty God does judgment work.
Many religious people are deceived by the leaders of their church
just as the Pharisees before, lied to, bound.
They forsake Christ in the last days.
You really don't want that to happen.
No, we don't.
In order to follow God,
we should know the religious leaders' hypocritical substance,
which is like that of the Pharisees.
They work and serve God by their gifts and talents.
They treat the Bible as a textbook and decipher it with logic and reasoning.
What they preach is biblical knowledge and theology.
And what they preach and focus on is man's word in the Bible.
Shouldn't they exalt God's word instead? Isn't that where they should focus?
They use man's word to replace Lord Jesus' word, making His words ring hollow.
This kind of work runs contrary to God's intention.
This is the core of the Pharisees' resistance to God.
Yes. Why do they resist God? It's blasphemy. Why would they do so?
Religious people have always accepted the leadership of the Pharisees.
For many years, they believe in God, gain no truth or life.
All they get are some biblical knowledge and theology.
So then, they become arrogant, self-conceited, more contemptuous,
without reverence for God.
Gradually God loses His place in man's heart.
And before he knows it, man finds himself on the path of resistance to God.
There are many church leaders and religious figures
who are actually misinterpreting the Bible.
They attempt to spread absurd fallacies
which conform to people's already faulty ideas,
getting people controlled and deceived.
And as a result, people start to accept their fallacies as God's word and truth.
And then, things start to fall apart. (Yes.)
These church figures and religious leaders
are the very antichrists that God exposes during His end-time work of judgment.
Yes. It's true.
This is strong enough proof
that the work of these so-called leaders and the "great" religious figures
doesn't come from the Holy Spirit,
but is the deceit and affliction of today's Pharisees.
They are the ones who resist and betray God.
They're the ones who re-crucify Him and will end up cursed by Him.
Yes. It's true. They don't revere God.
Indeed they are.
Brothers and sisters, until now, some people haven't been aware.
They treat those people in charge of the church, the deceivers,
as men used by the Holy Spirit,
and consider what they say, all the fallacious talk,
as the light from the Holy Spirit and even as God's word the truth.
These people, they follow God by name,
but in substance they're worshiping humans.
There's no room for God inside these men.
They've strayed and betrayed Him blindly.
It's really pitiable that they do this. (Yes.)
This is why the religious world is eliminated and forsaken by the work of God.
I think he's right.
I must agree with that. …
If we can't ever discern man's work from God's work, we'll be in trouble.
And if we can't figure out
if it's the work of men used by God or the hypocritical Pharisees',
we'll never escape the control of antichrists
or the deceit of the religious deceivers. (Yes. Indeed.)
If we continue to follow God in this way,
no matter how long we work at it, it will be in vain.
We'll never have the chance to gain His approval.
Yes, it's true.
Let's read some more of Almighty God's words.
Amen.
Yes. It's descendants of Satan. I agree.
Brothers and sisters,
in the past we showed no discernment for the work of God and the work of man,
not to mention the work of the hypocritical Pharisees.
So we worshiped Brother Lin and regarded his work as work done by God.
We resisted God without knowing it. (Yes.)
Almighty God speaks the truth. Thank God for that!
He opens our spiritual eyes and shows us where we failed.
It's Almighty God who saves us
from the influence of false leaders and antichrists. (Amen.)
I want to thank Him with all that I am!
Amen. It's Almighty God. We're truly blessed.
Brother Yang, Brother Meng, would you like some water?
Here.
I'm grateful to God.
The fellowship you gave completely changed my thinking!
Praise God!
Before we had no idea
there was a difference between the work of God and the work of man. (Yes.)
So we ended up following man, worshiping man! (Yes, I agree.)
For years, we've all been harmed by these people. Our leaders!
Yes, it's so right. When the blind lead the blind, they all fall down! Isn't that correct? (Yes.)
The Pharisees are right in front of us. We had no idea!
No wonder we failed! (Yes.)
What should we expect?
It reminds me of the verse,
I understand the "lack of knowledge" and the "want of wisdom." (Yes.)
Thank Almighty God for the salvation He's brought us! (Amen.)
Thanks be to God. Brothers and sisters,
if we still can't tell who are Pharisees, false shepherds or antichrists,
we'll fall into darkness with great misery. (Yes!)
Then all the years that we've spent have been a waste of effort and all in vain.
Yes. Right.
If we continue to follow false leaders and the like,
there's no question we'll be cursed by God! (Yes, it's true.)
Praise His name. Your fellowship was quite helpful.
I'm sure we have much to ponder.
Yeah. Yes. We do.
In order to tell the difference between man's work and God's,
we should look at the nature and the underlying substance of the work. (Yes.)
God incarnate is in charge of ending an age, starting an age,
and saving us with the truth. (Amen!)
Men used by God, however,
just express the experience and knowledge of truth based on God's work
to supply man and aid man in doing their duty. (Yes, so true.)
So now, we understand this part of the truth.
And so, we'll never confuse the two. We can discern between them.
Amen. How wonderful! Amen, thank God! It's true. Praise God.
This is great, isn't it?
Brother Meng, Brother Yang. I have a question. I hope you don't mind.
A lot of people still believe that Brother Lin was used by God.
He wrote many spiritual books and released much message.
Those words are the way of life, a provision.
They have the enlightenment and illumination of the Holy Spirit,
like the apostles' epistles in the Bible.
These words were our guide and in accordance with the truth.
But you say that the words in accord with the truth said by men used by God
are not the truth.
So then, what exactly is the truth?
We're not sure. It's a bit confusing. Would you mind fellowshiping?
Not at all.
There's nothing to say!
It's the truth. All of it! The apostles' words help!
Amen. That's right.
Brother Lin is a man used by God.
Like an apostle, his words contain the enlightenment of the Holy Spirit!
We benefit from them greatly!
We believe Brother Lin's words are the truth! (Amen.)
There's no doubt with it!
That's right! Words compatible with the truth are truth!
It's a simple question. Discussion over!
Don't say such things.
Brother Sun,
Brother Meng here has talked to us about Almighty God's word.
And you don't seem to have listened!
If Brother Lin's words are all truth as you say,
then why are we finding so many of them are wrong?
Well, I'm just wondering,
are you really that thick or just pretending?
It's good enough for man's words to be in accord with the truth. (Yes.)
If man could express truth, he would become God!
No wonder you're worshiping man,
because for some reason you don't seek the truth!
Right! (Yes.)
We didn't get what's truth before
or what's the word in accordance with the truth.
We treated man's words, words that accord with the truth
or that are seemingly right as the truth. (Yes.)
We were deceived to follow man and we did.
So now we really need to learn the truth.
If you would, could you fellowship some more?
Oh yes, please! Amen, I think fellowship is a good idea.
Praise His name. Knowing the truth is so crucial. (Amen.)
It's the most crucial truth that any believer has to understand. (Amen.)
We wonder why words according with the truth from men used by God
are not the truth.
Before that, we need to know what the truth is.
Yes. He's right. That's great!
In that case, let's talk about the truth and there's so much to tell!
Amen. Thank Almighty God!
Everyone, please have a seat. Please be seated.
Amen. Praise Almighty God. I can't wait. It's so excited.
Everything they've said is so helpful.
Yes, I can't wait to hear what's next.
Throughout the ages, none's grasped with the meaning of the truth.
When the Lord Jesus came in the Age of Grace, He said,
Amen.
And yet, we still don't understand the real meaning of the truth. (It's true.)
Only when Christ of the last days comes,
is the mystery of the truth revealed to us all. (Amen.)
Let's see what Almighty God has to say about it.
Yes, that's a great idea.
From Almighty God's words, we can see
that only Christ is the truth, the way, and the life. (Amen.)
This is because Christ has divine substance,
and He does God's work on behalf of God.
The truth comes from God and is then expressed by Christ.
That's to say, all the words that are expressed by God are the truth. (Amen!)
This is because the truth is the substance of God's life,
God's disposition, what He has and is,
and the reality of all the positive things,
which is immutable and exists forever.
Amen. Yes, forever.
The words expressed by God have authority and are very powerful.
They can purify and perfect man.
They can save man and be the source of man's eternal life. (Amen!)
So then, all the words that are expressed by God are the whole truth.
God's work, His expressions, His very words, and His predestination
are all the truth. (Amen!)
All that God issues and asks man to keep,
and all that He requires of man and asks him to live out,
are truly all the reality of positive things. They're all the truth. (Amen.)
So then, every word that God Himself expresses has the truth within it.
God has expressed many truths during every stage of His work.
And these truths are the precious life that God chooses to bestow on man.
Amen.
Brothers and sisters,
What God has expressed to us during His work, twice becoming flesh
are the truth. (Amen!)
This is like the words the Lord Jesus expressed to us during the Age of Grace.
In those words,
mankind sees God's disposition, God's love, and the substance of His holiness.
All these are the precious truth for us to know God. (Amen!)
Just like Lord Jesus' love toward all of mankind, His mercy, and forbearance,
Lord Jesus required that mankind love God with all his heart
to love his neighbor, to be light and salt, and so on.
All these are positive things and the truth,
as well as the reality of life man should possess. (Yes.)
When Christ of the last days, Almighty God, comes,
He expresses all the truth of judging, purifying and perfecting man.
All these truths are the reality of life that man should possess
in the Age of Kingdom. (Amen.)
Christ of the last days reveals to man
God's disposition of righteousness, majesty, wrath, and intolerance of offense.
He discloses the mystery of God's management plan of saving mankind,
the mystery of God's three stages of work,
the inside truth and substance of every stage of His work,
and the mystery of His incarnation.
He reveals how God gives judgment in the last days,
what the kingdom of Christ is,
how God reveals the end of every person, rewards good and punishes evil.
He reveals God's righteousness,
what His holiness is,
the symbolic meaning of God's disposition and His emotions.
He unveils righteousness and evilness,
all things positive and all things negative.
He shows the substance and fact of man's corruption by Satan.
He shows the way to fear God and how to shun evil,
what the real human life is, how we can live out a meaningful life,
and how to make the most of it.
Almighty God has revealed all these truths and all the mysteries
for man to know and see,
so they can fear God, shun evil, obey God, and worship Him. (Amen!)
The truth Almighty God expresses
is the way of eternal life mankind should have.
Amen!
Those who agree to accept all the truth expressed by God as a way of life,
are people who gain the eternal life.
Those who refuse to accept all the truth expressed to them by God,
will head toward destruction.
So then, all the truths expressed by Almighty God in the last days,
are God's work of beginning an age and ending an age,
when the last days arrive. (Amen!)
Men used by God are the ones God saves and perfects.
Their duty in God's work that they strive to perform
is to assist in the work of God and to lead God's chosen people.
So then, their words that are in accordance with the truth,
are a result of the Holy Spirit's work.
Though they are of benefit to man, they cannot be called truth, God's word.
The reason for this is man's words are of his own knowledge of truth,
are his own point of view, and understanding, and they involve human impurity.
Besides, man's experience and knowledge about the truth is limited.
No matter how much man enters into the truth,
it doesn't mean he possesses the substance of the truth,
or completely lives out the image of the truth either. (Right.)
So then, even if he's lived out some realities of the truth,
it still stands that what he expresses is in line with the truth,
but can never be considered as on the same par. (Amen!)
Only the words expressed by the incarnate God are the truth.
That is to say,
only God has the substance of truth. Only God is the truth. (Amen!)
No matter how many years man has believed in God,
he is always as a newborn baby before Him. (Yes.)
He can never possibly live out the image of God.
So then, the men used by God and the men with the work of the Holy Spirit,
their words can only be viewed in line with truth,
and not considered the truth itself. (Amen!)
This is a fact that no one can deny.
If one considers man's words to be the truth, he's not just resisting God.
He's blaspheming against Him!
Yes. Completely blasphemous.
Now let's find out what Almighty God has to say. (All right.)
I'll read it. (Mm.)
Amen.
Thank the Lord! Today I understand what the truth means, (Yes!)
for Almighty God has explained the truth so thoroughly, so clearly! (Amen!)
Brother Lin wrote a lot of spiritual books,
but he didn't explain the truth clearly at all.
I guess, Brother Lin never understood what the truth really means.
Praise God.
Praise His name. We understand only God's words are truth.
Only God's words can be man's life. (Amen!)
And we still need to know it's because of the Holy Spirit's work and guidance
that men used by God have some reality, can fellowship the ways of life entering
and can bring people before God to make them know Him and obey Him.
And this is all thanks to the Holy Spirit. (Yes. It's true.)
However, the religious leaders without the work of the Spirit,
have spread some specious theories, deceitful and going against the truth.
To people who have no truth, they sound so reasonable.
They seem to tally with the truth and are accepted.
But after a while people realize those words are empty and lack reality.
They're clearly man's imaginings and they're no help.
Some theories are ridiculous and stand against the truth.
You've quoted Brother Lin a lot.
His theories of "God became man that man may become God"
and "God's Spirit and man's spirit are mingled as one"
were accepted by many people then.
But it didn't take very long and they were found ridiculous and absurd.
They're impractical and invalid.
That's right. I agree. Yes. It's true.
If we accept God's work and the nourishment of His word
and understand some truth,
we'll be able to see
that man's word falls short of the word of God and of the truth. (Amen. Yes.)
Man's word, no matter how pleasant it is, is not the truth. (Yes.)
And man's spiritual theory, no matter how profound it is,
can't purify or change man.
Especially religious figures and leaders of the church,
their words are specious fallacies,
which can only deceive and corrupt us, and harm. (Yeah.)
If man doesn't accept God's word and experience His work,
he'll never break free from the deception and the bondage
of all the false shepherds and the antichrists. (Yes.)
And he'll never escape the influence of Satan. (Amen.)
And so, worshiping and following man
is the same as resisting God and betraying Him.
Yes.
All those who follow all the false shepherds and antichrists
are doomed to weep and gnash their teeth when the disaster occurs. (Yes.)
Thank Almighty God for revealing the truth and the mystery.
We understand
there's a difference between man's word and the truth God reveals.
They can't even be compared.
Right. Yes.
God's word is the truth. It can purify and save man and be man's life.
Amen.
Man's word in accordance with the truth can only help man, supply him,
but can't ever be man's life.
Yes. (Yes, indeed.)
The fallacies of the religious leaders,
all the people who claim to show us the way,
can only deceive, corrupt us and harm us. It's the truth.
Yes. It's true.
Though I read the Bible and prayed in the Lord's name all of this time,
I never grasped or practiced the words of the Lord Jesus,
but spent all these years to follow Brother Lin.
In name, I believe in the Lord Jesus. But in practice, I followed Brother Lin.
I'm believing and following man.
I'm a blind guide to all of you.
Yes, if we refuse to follow the Lord Jesus' word,
but exalt and testify Brother Lin's words,
and even practice them as if they were the words of God,
aren't we just following and obeying man? (Yes!)
Then we're not following and believing in God! (Yes!)
In the past, we believed in the Lord Jesus in name,
but in fact we lived on man's words instead. We followed man.
We were truly blind and ignorant. (Yeah.)
No matter how respected one is or how knowledgeable,
he can't save or perfect men!
If it weren't for the salvation of Almighty God,
then all of us, worshipers of man,
would be cursed by God like the Pharisees and punished in the end. (Yes.)
Everyone! You're easily dissuaded!
Brother Lin had led us for years and it takes you a day to betray him?
Exactly! Look at yourselves! You'd think you could be a bit more loyal!
Even if the word of Almighty God is the truth, is the true way,
we won't accept Him unless He raptures us to the kingdom of heaven!
Brothers and sisters,
no matter what, we can't deny the Lord's name and betray Brother Lin.
Brother Wang, Brother Sun! What is this all about?
If the religious leaders and elders exalt and testify themselves
to make us follow them, then lead us astray, we should be opposing them!
Amen!
Especially those false shepherds, apostles, we should betray them even more!
Betraying them is betraying Satan! (Amen!)
We believers should betray Satan and return before God!
We'd be leaving darkness to return to light! (Amen!)
Those who don't intend to lead us toward the truth
and don't care if we obey God or not,
deserve to be betrayed! That's only right! (Amen!)
Brothers and sisters,
true faith in God is obeying God and following the Lamb's footsteps.
And we'll follow the Lamb wherever He goes. (Amen!)
No matter how well known or gifted,
if one can't bring us before the true God, but lets us worship him, what is he?
He is the servant of Satan! And he should be forsaken! (Amen!)
It's only Christ who can perfect man and save man.
Worshiping man, praising man, obeying man, is the same thing as betraying God!
Brothers and sisters, God created us. It wasn't Satan!
Betraying Satan is justified! (Amen!)
Today, when we hear the voice of God, and follow the footsteps of the Lamb,
we're following God and obeying God! (Amen!)
I don't understand.
Why do you insist on clinging to man's words? On obeying man? (Yes.)
Your rejecting God's coming is the same as being an unbeliever. (Yes.)
Brothers and sisters, remember God created us.
That is why we follow Him and obey Him. (Amen!)
Before, we were deceived by man and followed him instead.
That's because we were blind, foolish and ignorant. (Yes.)
Today, if Almighty God didn't bestow His mercy,
send these men to preach us the gospel,
could we return before God in the end? (Yes.)
After hearing the words of Almighty God
and the testimonies of His work of judgment in the last days,
we truly understand that
only accepting the judgment and chastisement from Christ
and attaining perfection,
is truly being raptured into the kingdom of heaven. (Amen!)
Just those who accept Almighty God's judgment and chastisement
are made overcomers.
And they'll have a place in the kingdom of heaven. (Amen!)
All those who seek the truth and accept the truth
should stand on the side of Almighty God,
and shouldn't act otherwise. (Yes!)
Why is it that we believe in God?
It's so we receive the truth and receive the life.
Yes.
Only God loves us. False shepherds have no love. Antichrists don't love.
All those false shepherds and antichrists do is deceive and harm us.
We should rise up to betray them in return. (Amen!)
God's sheep can hear His voice. People of God will surely return before Him.
Amen!
Only men of Satan will deny the voice of God
and reject His work of the last days. (Amen. Yes.)
All those who worship and follow man derive from Satan.
We must forsake all people like that.
Amen! I really believe it.
We know Almighty God's work in the last days has revealed all kinds of people.
Each one has a category.
This is proof of God's wisdom
and reveals that He's righteous and holy. (Amen!)
Thank Almighty God. All the glory be to Him!
That's right. Thank Almighty God. Amen.
Brothers and sisters,
so now the gospel of the kingdom's descent
has spread throughout Mainland China.
Amen!
Almighty God's work of judgment in the last days
is spreading to the whole world.
All of the believers who have a great love of truth and long for God
in every denomination and sect,
have all returned before the throne of God.
Amen!
This stream of return is irresistible! (Amen!)
Amen!
Just as Almighty God says,
Amen!
Amen! Yes. It's so true. It's indeed God's voice.
Oh, Lord, you really have come back for us! Oh, thank God!
Amen!
Brothers and sisters, think of it. Today we all heard the voice of God.
This is truly His grace and exaltation.
Amen!
Two thousand years ago,
God came personally as flesh to be mankind's sin offering.
Amen.
In the last days, God becomes flesh once again.
He practically expresses the truth to judge and purify,
separates man according to kind,
and ends the whole age by the work of judgment. (Yes.)
God's work of saving mankind is so real, practical! There's no denying it!
Amen!
Rapture is wonderful.
Yes! It's only God who can do the work of God. (Amen!)
No one can fulfill the work of the plan God's made. (Amen!)
Now I'm sure that Almighty God is the returned Lord Jesus come back for us!
Amen!
Thank God for His grace. (Amen!)
These days through our seeking Almighty God's word and work,
I've gained so very much. (Amen!)
Almighty God has expressed the entire truth to save mankind.
It's enough to prove that
Almighty God is the embodiment of the Spirit of truth, (Amen!)
the return of the Lord Jesus, (Amen!)
the appearance of Christ in the last days, (Yes.)
and even more than that is the righteous God who judges all. (Amen!)
All of the nations and all peoples shall hear His voice
and return before the throne of God.
Amen!
Also, if Almighty God didn't express the truth to save me,
I would be still bound and deceived by religious antichrists. It's true.
I would still be foolishly worshiping, obeying and following man,
regarding man's word as the word of God,
and the work of man as the work of God. (Yes.)
And in doing all of these things, I tried to be God. (Yeah.)
I was so absurd and such a fool. (Yes.)
Man without the truth is pitiful, ignorant and blind. (Yes.)
Looking back now, the path that we followed was the path of antichrists.
Yes. It's true.
I feel as if I'm at the edge of a tall cliff.
Below me lies the bottomless chasm. (Yes.)
How dangerous! (Yes. It's true.)
I'm in unimaginable peril.
Praise His name. God didn't forsake me. (Amen!)
But He let me hear His blessed voice,
and let me know His work in the last days, (Amen!)
so that I'm raptured before the throne of God.
Amen!
My rapture was in such great peril. (Amen! Yes.)
I must thank Almighty God. He's my God and He's my Lord. Thank you God!
Amen!
It's true. Yes.
God forgave me. He didn't punish me as He could have. (Amen.)
He saves me from the lies
and the bondage of the antichrists that could ruin me, (Amen!)
so that I break free from Satan's influence,
and am finally able to return before God's throne.
Amen!
I will thank Almighty God forever, (Amen!)
and repay God's love!
Amen!
Praise His name. Thank God.
Brother Zhao.