we always wanted to work together on
something outside of one tree hill and
we knew that at a certain point we would
collaborate on something we just knew
that it had to be the right thing
and this ended up being it james
approached me with an idea about a show
about these guys going through a coming
of age a little bit later in life
right away i had a pretty good vision of
the idea and i think the more that i
started to share my vision it was a
cohesiveness that is very key
from there taking a lot of different
stories that we've found ourselves
in living in los angeles and being in
the entertainment industry and throwing
it into these characters
you made me a pillow dude how can i
trust this guy he didn't
make you i mean you agreed to do it we
wanted to make sure we weren't too close
to this story and that's when we brought
in ian and schmelms to help us
really find not only the aesthetic tone
of the show but also creatively what's
the spirit of this show
we had the good fortune of meeting james
lafferty
a few moons ago we were introduced by a
former manager
she thought we would hit it off we did
we met him under the auspices of
exchanging scripts we were both writing
and we thought he was really talented
writer when he came to us he said you
guys have done a lot of diy
type productions i've got this idea for
a tv show
would you guys help me produce this
thing and we said
yes our first meeting was with james
just hanging out and he mentioned it to
us the second meeting is with him and
coletti
and they were they were pitching us the
whole show we're not comedians by trade
we're not comedians by nature so
they helped us find those really subtle
nuances to emphasize
there we go that's great they really
helped us mold it and identify and
really
ground it in something that felt real
the guys
took to it so quickly that they just
nailed it now is to make the show
and they put their own money in and they
believed it that much put everything on
the line we did a budget
and then james and steven started an
indiegogo campaign so it's really
through the graciousness
of a lot of their fans that we were able
to make the project happen
in a way that james and steven didn't
have to compromise they got to
create their true artistic vision
without anybody telling them
what they could or couldn't do which is
really a gift in this industry day one
whoo we haven't talked about p-h-e-n
i feel like we had such a good time on
this particular project because it was a
collaboration from the start we were
very much helping this thing together
and we had a lot of input from
ian and ashram nelms it was a diy effort
it was very much independent spirited
they brought their film family to the
table and we brought our film family to
the table it just filled every slot we
needed which was fantastic
we owed it to ourselves into this
project to give it a go
with a core group of people that really
got the spirit of it it's a perfect
scenario
you're maintaining your creative control
with the stories that we've written out
we're so excited to tell them
taking this world that we know really
well and all of these
circumstances that sort of make it what
it is and we've just mapped these
characters that we've created onto that
world and it's been really really fun to
do that because we feel like it feels
very authentic
everyone's not doing great and i think
that that's everyone because i i'd
really like for you to show me somebody
who's got it all figured out that's the
irony of the show i think we want this
show to make people feel like they're
not alone
and that if they can take a step back
from their situation
they might find some humor and if they
can laugh at whatever they're going
through
then they might find a lot of relief and
with that relief hopefully they can
learn a little something about
themselves and and you know life
yes man oh my god they're so good
that was so good that was amazing it was
amazing i feel it man
i feel it
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