jeffrey toobin is a so-called journalist our CNN
this must be a legal analyst but he's within the field of journalism
I'll but he loves the war on journals now he's on the so the girls
he's on the site attacking the germs how here you commit acts in journalism how
dare you what about all your head to the american government if the american
government or the UK government says
the you do something wrong you must be doing something right why
legal analyst Jeffrey Toobin thank you so much for clarifying that
so he's gonna attack given Miranda who was stopped at the Heathrow Airport
partner when remote
now remember he was detained for nine hours and the took
always ok computers laptop cellphone
a memory stick center and they destroyed it will first of course they copy them
they got that information you know that's if somebody did to you it wasn't
having it be considered theft now the government could do it if they'd for
example arrested you in the head John a crime
and this remember the UK government use apart the Terrorism Act to justify this
schedule 7 on the Terrorism Act
do they think even more and as a terrorist no not remotely who cares X 12
steals stuff
illegal analyst jeffrey toobin thanks it was a wonderful idea
let's start this discussion about what mister moran this role was here I don't
wanna be unkind
but he was a mule he was given something he didn't know what it was
from one person to pass to another at the other end of an airport
our prisons are full of drug meals glenn's view
is as long as one of the two people on either and
love that transaction was a journalist he can take
anything he wants I'm he could take the nuclear launch codes
he could take the names are undercover agent we know if
but he had any agents they know who cares
just preemptively raid a journalist if you consider me a journalist
or any regular citizen to rate all this stuff
with no evidence and just take it
and smash it and do whatever you like with it who cares the government is
above the law
apparently and legal analyst Jeffrey Toobin agrees now there's one part that
he's right about
more and apparently had no idea what was in that material
he had gone to Germany total or portrait sums involved in this reporting
so let's let Brenda explain David I know you said you'd said that they took
a laptop memory sticks and external hard drive your cell phone and more
do you know what were stored in those devices what were their
was there classified material I don't know that I and II was just a dignified
about does matter us back to go and I mean you know clam been working toward a
lot of stores along the years
I don't quite follow everything he writes every day
I can fall and because I I have to have a life it's funnier then
so it seems like a limit to is being a good point he doesn't know what's in
their bodies been given some stuff in
but wait a minute you compared to you drug mule
see what we know what a drug mule is carrying is illegal
its illegal drugs that's why he's a drug mule
and we can stop you don't know what miranda's carrying
you can't without reasonable suspicion come in there and say
I think he's a terrorism at a college stuff right and
the government is admitted together like is yet is that we think we're at it was
in tears of course not
a but we thought you might have some stuff I would unless it could they do
that
any of you couldn't do that to jeffrey toobin
and sago gauche give me all your stuff give me all your letters
by the way if they did jeffrey toobin he would not go home I got up
Doug but some pot over Owego power the power to
the power structure you can't do that to me was was a crush people
war against the government all he would qualify in chronic
and I what hate to pin I don't know you're not a drug mule
hi how do I know you're not equivalent of that well let's look to win
keep on with this absurd defensive the government and I mean he's on a plane
with stuff that is highly classified you know if he would
are that you would he anything he wants it turns out it wasn't the names are
undercover agents it was the extremely classified presumably
arm NSA material presumably
miss early oh well as you don't know that at all to the UK government tell
you what was in there
you have some sort of scoop you you'd like to tell us about it presumably it
was NSA material I don't know the government says it up so
I really care about the law like there's a governess always right but the pope
said I say that out loud
now more from do good mister Miranda was lucky
that they use the terrorism law because he wasn't even the way he wasn't even
stopped overnight
I mean you know I'm sure it was inconvenient to be stopped for nine
hours at the airport
but you know when it it but he cannot when it happens to you on JetBlue they
don't even offer you a lawyer
so I mean I just don't think he was sent to the gulag
he was he was delayed for a while and they took what appears to be
stolen classified information I think mister Miranda actually did pretty well
considering what he was carrying you are no I was carrying
presumably stolen classified information there's no evidence to that effect
but the so-called legal analyst doesn't give a damn because the government's
always right
if they said they had important sub-cabinet man just get me wrong the
government for one day let me just
as tube is walking through never come here come here take only should
mint is still at all in the breaker for Eva and watch him cry and cry and cry
all why what's the big deal it was another user
extra layover what are you crying about Jeff
so now a brand explains how it
actually went down in the threats that went along with his nine-hour detection
list they ask me and up all kinds of questions I
and asked me at about my relationship with no
gland ask my about my relationship with LaRhonda and
why was I was doing and all my trip to a 20
the Germany and what I was carrying
everything did they actually ask you anything about terrorism
now they do not ask me anything about terry has been %uh not want question
about it
I have to ask Diana do I have to answer this and and a
as the just telling me by if you don't ask this you gonna go to jail
and you know dad that's a big thinkers like when they say like a
yeah I was in this are under this law this is terrorism
you know what UK and United States to
they have all the powers in the world to do anything they want with this
saw in that moment I was like a really afraid what would happen to me
sir and I i was you understand that I was for a
hours without talking to anybody outside in the world I do you know what's
happening
and to keep trusting me about me going to the gel
so think about that you think is a JetBlue layover
when you can talk to anybody in the outside world for eight hours they keep
telling you are you going away you gotta go away for a long long time
work keeping you under a terrorism legislation here you better be careful
you ever tell us everything you want the Celica pleasant layover jeffrey toobin
or does it seem like the state looking to intimidate you threaten you
and do so by the way under the thinnest veneer of the law
because for the anytime may know that he was not a terrorist
and they're doing this anyway talk beat how do we know what are the ways we go
is the Restless single question about terrorism
and you still say all year sure use a tear someone who cares what the law says
I'm other legal analyst for the state for pravda whoops
if you work for private jeffrey toobin you could do this got a job maybe a
little embarrassed about it
because you're not just protecting the government now you're turning as a
so-called journalist
and attacking other real journalists
this how they get like their corporate is democrats attack progressive
Democrats
the state always flies people within your own camp to attack you
so now the other thing is
they got all the information for Miranda immediately
and as I've told you only one outta 2,000 people detained under this law
is kept for over six hours he was kept for the maximum
9 hours you think they had extra questions
no the whole point was to intimidate him
threaten them with the forces the law us just like a JetBlue layover right
jeffrey toobin
so when the state does this you know these
extra-judicial tactics
that go way beyond the scope of any law let alone this law
jeffrey toobin the legal analyst for CNN here to say absolutely sir I like about
my head to you sir
great well okay let's like living room while the dress
glenn was he carrying classified material without
wall not gonna talk about what he was carrying because that's our work product
is journalist remember ball Laura and I are working with the Guardian
as journalists what I would say is every single newsroom in the United States
every single major news organization
in the overall passed classified information reporting on what
governments do you in the secret is what journalism is about
so if you want it support the idea that states can just go and confiscate from
Journal last class but information
you should be demanding that your government go physically engine
newsrooms and sees whatever classified information is there
all the best supporting over the last forty years involved journalists have
been classified information the pentagon papers
the bush torture site CIA black sites the legal workers eavesdropping program
that's what investigative journalism is if you wanna start criminalizing that
means that you're asking as a citizen
to be kept here and to allow people in power to conceal what they're doing
behind a wall of secrecy and I have no accountability
or transparency journalism is not a crime it is not terror
so jeffrey toobin how are you going to answer that
very good point that wait a minute almost every major story
has classified information now bob woodward had classified information that
he leaked all over the place he put it in books
and by the way the leader Al Qaeda said that he read those books
and got information from bob woodward so should every journalist have the gestapo
come and
rifle through their stuff break their computers as they did at The Guardian
the UK due to the Guardian if you're in any way related to
a journalist David Miranda was you should be able to be threatened for nine
hours
at and your stuff stolen destroyed et cetera
well to process your actually they should be allowed to do that watch
that isn't going green was argument that database Lee its its a linking
journalism
conducting journalism to to acceptor the word journalism is not magical
immunity sauce that you can click on anything communities that you guys put
on anything
and and and and I'll make
ill eliminate any sort of liability you know what
if you have the nuclear launch codes in there he could you know that you they
can take that
if he had the names of undercover operatives they can take that
it magical immunity sauce remember this guy watches CNN
he suppose the other side the journalist acts that magical immunity saw snow
he's your journalist it does about you think a breaking story does the
government can call
what few a damn what kinda journalism you think you're doing
the government can do any damn thing they like to you on the legal analyst
now funny enough the guy who charge the best I think was Anderson Cooper
so credit to him and remember he's also host a CNN
so credit to the organization for at least having the conversation with other
sites here
watch I mean he's to being detained under British
UK I a Terrorism Act which it is I only supposed to be used to
detect and find people who are connected to two terrorists
there's no indication the daytime randa they knew who he was they knew he's not
connected some terrorist group Great Britain has its own laws that are
similar to ours but that are somewhat different their terrorism law
takes it one step farther they say it's not just
the material is can in this person is a terrorist
but can be used by terrorists and frankly if if terrorists no
how we surveilled their cell phone calls how we surveilled their tax
that could be useful can you any information published by journalist
be used by terrorists in some way in and check and that that excuse be used to
Denmark detained journalists are not classified in from it now not classified
information if this I'm
it would have to be classified information of this kind
he gave us the tuba look there it of
on this issue's been on there several times he's been busted on there several
times a perfectly good questions
not known how to answer them meaning you be the
look that he gave their at Anderson Cooper yet what wait a minute under that
logic
anderson's right couldn't government say well
anything you release a public could be used by terrorists
so every single thing that a journalist does
goes straight into the hands of terrorists do we make not
the not Nancee over me like maybe things like this why I don't know
governments always right thank you legal analyst Jeffrey Toobin