THE IMPEACHMENT PROCEEDINGS AND THE FALL OUT. >> SOME OF THE THINGS WE’RE
GOING TO DISCUSS IN TODAY’S
CASE AT YOU WE’RE JOINED
BY UTSA POLITICAL SCIENCE
PROFESSOR AND THE DEPARTMENT
CHAIR OF THE DEPARTMENT OF
POLITICAL SCIENCE
OF GEOGRAPHY. JOHN TAYLOR AT
UTSA JOHN THANK YOU FOR JOINING
US AT. WHAT DID
WE WERE WHAT DID WE LEARN OVER
THE LAST FEW DAYS.
>> YEAH, YEAH.
IT’S BEEN A TRYING TIME AS A
POLITICAL SIDE US ABOUT THAT.
WHAT WE LEARNED WE’VE LEARNED
THAT THAT AT LEAST FOR THE
HOUSE THE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE
THAT’S THE BASICALLY THE
PROSECUTION TEAM PUT TOGETHER A
FANTASTIC CASE. WE ALSO LEARNED
THAT IT DOESN’T MATTER.
WHAT IS IN THE MATTER BECAUSE
REPUBLICANS IN THE SENATE
BELIEVE RIGHTLY OR WRONGLY CAN
MAKE IN OUR LIVES THAT THE
ENTIRE TRIAL WAS
UNCONSTITUTIONAL.
>> CAN YOU EXPLAIN THE
POLITICAL MATH THAT GOES INTO
THIS IT’S BEEN SO MUCH ABOUT
THE ORAL ARGUMENTS OVER THE
LAST COUPLE OF DAYS, BUT WE
WENT INTO THIS KNOWING
IT WAS UNLIKELY THE FORMER
PRESIDENT WOULD BE CONVICTED
AND MATH HAS SOMETHING TO DO
WITH THAT.
>> IT DOES ACTUALLY
FIRST OF ALL IS GOING TO TAKE
IT WOULD TAKE 67 VOTES TO
CONVICT TRUMP. THAT’S NOT GOING
TO HAPPEN. I MEAN EVEN WITH
THAT EVEN IF 7, I MEAN,
LET’S GO RIGHT NOW YOU MIGHT
GET 5 MAYBE 6 REPUBLICANS PEEL
OFF AND VOTE WITH THE DEMOCRATS
FOR CONVICTION. THAT’S NOT
GOING TO GET THERE
AND SO THE RESULT IS THAT TRUMP
IS GOING TO BE ACQUITTED LIKE
IT OR YOU KNOW MUCH POLITICALLY
BUT IT’S GOING TO BE ACQUITTED
AND HE WILL VIEW THAT AS A
VICTORY.
>> IS THERE GOING IS THERE
ANYTHING BEYOND
A CONVICTION THAT COULD HAPPEN,
I MEAN CAN THEY I KNOW IF THERE
WAS A CONVICTION THAN THEY
COULD ALSO VOTE TO PREVENT HIM
FROM RUNNING FOR FUTURE OFFICE.
THIS IS BASICALLY IT
THOUGH CORRECT.
>> IT PRETTY MUCH JUST MEET
SOME OF YOU ARE, BUT YOU CAN
INVOKE THE 14TH AMENDMENT
SECTION 3 I THINK THAT’S A
LITTLE PROBLEMATIC. SO FAR THE
WAY COULD HAVE CENSURE OF TRUMP
IS OUT OF OFFICE.
THE CENTER IS NOT GOING TO
PREVENT HIM FROM FROM RUNNING
FOR
OFFICE AGAIN. THE ARGUMENT IS
IT’S ALL ABOUT THE PERCEPTION
OF TRUMP AND THE AFTERMATH OF
THIS IMPEACHMENT. IT’S WHAT END
AND HOW THE EVIDENCE HAS BEEN
VERY DAMAGING THAT SAID.
A GOOD PERCENTAGE OF HIS
SUPPORTERS PROBABLY 90 PLUS OR
BASES STICKING WITH THEM, SO IT
DOESN’T REALLY MATTER
POLITICALLY.
>> IT’S SO DO YOU THINK THAT
YOU TALK ABOUT HIM PERHAPS
VIEWING THIS AS A VICTORY IN
THE END IF WE’VE WATCHED THESE
HOURS AND HOURS
OF ARGUMENTS KNOWING THAT IT’S
UNLIKELY ANYTHING WOULD COME OF
IT ESSENTIALLY WHAT’S THE
ULTIMATE IMPACT HERE IS THERE A
REAL IMPACT GIVEN YEAR
KNOWLEDGE OF POLITICAL HISTORY
IS THERE AN IMPACT TO
HIS LEGACY.
>> THEY’RE WELL THE IMPACT IS
LET’S SEE I SAY WAIT AND SEE
FIRST OF ALL THE NEXT FEW WEEKS
AND MONTHS. WE KNOW MOST LIKELY
THE TRUMP WON’T BE CONVICTED.
WHAT WILL BE INTERESTING IS
THAT WILL HE TURN AROUND AND
PARLAY THIS LIKE I SAID TO SOME
SORT OF A SORT OF ARGUING THAT
HE’S HE’S BEEN VICTORIOUS EVEN
ACQUITTED. WE’LL USE
THIS AS BASICALLY THE BEGINNING
OF A ROAD SHOW NATIONALLY UP
KEEP PUTTING UP HIS
HIS SUPPORTERS RAISING MONEYS
AND START TRYING TO INFLUENCE
THE 2022 ELECTION.
>> IZZY ALSO DO YOU BELIEVE
HE’S SERIOUSLY LOOKING AT
MAYBE. SPLITTING OFF FROM THE
REPUBLICAN PARTY AND STARTING
HIS OWN PARTY. I MEAN WOULD
THAT HAVE BEEN A LOT OF
SPECULATION IT WOULD START FROM
SOMETHING CALLED THE PATRIOT
PARTY OR YOU KNOW SOMETHING
IT’S SOMETHING ELSE ARE WE
LOOKING MODERN DAY WEEK PARTY
COMING UP HERE.
>> HONESTLY, I DON’T THINK SO I
MEAN TRUMP’S BASE TO CAPTURE
THE REPUBLICAN PARTY THOUGH
THERE ARE DISAFFECTED MEMBERS
THE REPUBLICAN PARTY THEY MAKE
PEEL OFF THE HOOK FOR A 3RD
PARTY. THE PROBLEM IS THE
UNITED STATES 3RD PARTIES ARE
USUALLY NOT SUCCESSFUL LAST
LAST SUCCESSFUL TRULY
SUCCESSFUL 3RD PARTY WAS THE
REPUBLICAN PARTY WHICH CAME OUT
OF THE ANTI SLEEP WIGS, THE
1850’S DON’T HOLD YOUR BREATH,
THIS WILL HAPPEN AGAIN.
>> I’M CURIOUS WHAT YOU THINK
ABOUT THOSE 5 OR 6 REPUBLICANS
TO MAYBE PEELING OFF AND SIDING
WITH THE DEMOCRATS HERE IS
THERE ANY REAL POLITICAL IMPACT
FOR ANY REPUBLICANS TO DECIDE
TO
DO THAT.
>> WELL THE POLITICAL IMPACT
MIGHT BE NEGATIVE MEAN FOR
EXAMPLE MITT ROMNEY
OF UTAH. IF YOU DECIDE TO RUN
FOR ELECTION LISA MURKOWSKI OF
ALASKA IS ANOTHER ONE. SUSAN
COLLINS DOESN’T HAVE TO WORRY
FOR ANOTHER 6 YEARS BECAUSE OF
THAT BECAUSE HE JUST GOT
REELECTED MAINE. WE COULD HAVE
A POLITICAL IMPACT OF THEM MAY
BE. WHAT’S INTERESTING IS THAT.
THE REPUBLICAN PARTY’S PAY THE NATIONAL PARTY’S BASE, HE SAID THEY’RE STILL GOING TO SUPPORT
MEMBERS. HU ACTUALLY VOTED
AGAINST TRUMP IN BOTH THE HOUSE
IMPEACHMENT AND THEN THE
SENATE. SO THAT THEY’RE WANTING
TO STICK TOGETHER PRIMARILY
BECAUSE THEY
WANT TO GAIN CONTROL OF THE
U.S. HOUSE AND THE SENATE
TOGETHER HOW ABOUT SOME OF THE
HOUSE MANAGERS OF THIS
IMPEACHMENT TRIAL THAT HAVE
TAKEN THIS TO THE FLOOR OF THE
SENATE INCLUDING.
>> JOAQUIN CASTRO
REPRESENTATIVE HIGH THIS UP HIS
PROFILE, WHAT IS THE IMPACT FOR
HIM GOING FORWARD DO YOU THINK
BEING PART OF THIS IMPEACHMENT
PROCESS OR IS THERE ANY.
>> I THINK THERE IS ACTUALLY I
MEAN HE IS DEFINITELY AN
IMPROVEMENT, NOT JUST TO PROVE
IT RAISE THE STATURE DEATH.
WHAT WE CONSIDER MAYBE RUNNING
FOR US SENATE AGAINST TED CRUZ
THE COUPLE YEARS MAYBE WHEN YOU
THINK ABOUT RUNNING FOR FOR
GOVERNOR
2022. I DON’T KNOW, BUT I MEAN
HE HAS OPTIONS I WOULD ARGUE IN
THIS RESPECT IT’S THE SUPREME
COURT SEAT COMES UP IN PERU.
SHE MIGHT BE APPOINTED TO THAT.
PRESIDENT TRUMP LOST THE ELECTION. >> JOE BIDEN WAS INAUGURATED,
THERE’S A LOT OF TALK ABOUT
WHERE’S THE GOP GO FROM HERE.
DO YOU THINK THAT WHAT WE’RE
SEEING IN THIS IMPEACHMENT
TRIAL IS
ANY INDICATION OF WHERE THE
REPUBLICAN PARTY STANDS RIGHT
NOW.
>> I THINK IT IS IT’S A
CASE OF THE RALLYING THE TROOPS
ARE TRYING TO CIRCLE THE WAGONS
IN SOME RESPECTS OF TRYING TO
FIGURE OUT WHOM
THEY ARE I THINK THAT KIND OF
WITH THE BASICALLY RIGHT NOW
AND THIS IS NOT TRYING TO BE
OFFENSIVE. THEY’RE BEHOLDEN
TO TRUMP. TRUMP BASICALLY
ENERGIZE THE REPUBLICAN BASE HE
AND THE REPUBLICAN BASE ARE
TRUMP SUPPORTERS. MAGOS FOR
WANT OF A BETTER TERM AND SO
THE RESULT IS THAT.
REPUBLICAN OFFICEHOLDERS LIKE
TRUMP OR NOT
LIKE TRUMP. THEY PRETTY MUCH
HAVE TO GET ONLINE IF THEY WANT
TO BE ELECTORALLY SUCCESSFUL IN
THE NEXT 2 FOR 6 YEARS.
>> YEAH, IF YOU I MEAN HE’S
HE’S EXERTING HIS INFLUENCE AS
YOU SEE ON THE FLOOR OF THE
SENATE WITH THIS IMPEACHMENT
TRIAL. SO THAT KIND OF TELLS
YOU ALL THAT YOU NEED TO KNOW
RIGHT THERE. YEAH
POLITICAL SCIENCE PROFESSOR
JOHN TAYLOR WITH UTSA ALWAYS
APPRECIATE YOUR TIME JOHN HAVE