What does the word integrity mean to you?
>> Well, Tulsi, thank you for having me.
To answer your question, integrity is very important.
And like I said to the New York Post embellished-
>> What does it mean, though?
[SOUND] >> Is Tulsi Gabbert who's notorious for
the lies she told as a Congresswoman and
presidential candidate really going to talk to us about integrity right now.
I don't know, why don't we get a load of what she has to say during this interview
with George Santos?
>> What does it mean because the meaning of the word actually matters in practice?
>> Of course, it means to carry yourself in an honorable way.
And I made a mistake and I think humans are flawed and
we all make mistakes, Tulsi.
I think we can all look at ourselves in the mirror and
admit that once in our life we made a mistake.
I'm having to admit this on national television for the whole country to see.
And I have the courage to do so
because I believe that in order to move past this and move forward and
be an effective member of Congress, I have to face my mistakes and I'm facing them.
The reality is is that I remain committed to doing everything I set forward in my
campaign.
I'm not a fraud, I'm not a fake.
I didn't materialize from thin air,
I worked damn hard to get where I got my entire life.
Life wasn't easy, it didn't start off easy.
As I've said it many, many times, I come from abject poverty.
I made some mistakes.
>> The thing is, Congressman-elect, integrity means, yes,
carrying yourself with honor.
But it mean telling the truth.
>> It means telling the truth.
What a strange turn of events where Tulsi Gabbert, again,
who is well known certainly among Progressives for being a pretty giant liar
is lecturing Congressman-elect, George Santos, about the need for integrity.
Now, of course, George Santos has been caught in major lies, including lies about
his college degrees, lies about the number of properties he owns,
lies about his religion, it goes on and on.
But Tulsi Gabbert lied when she was in positions of power and
when she was running for president of the United States.
And those lies, I would venture to say,
are a lot more serious than someone lying about his resume.
Now, I'm gonna make that case.
But before I do, before we revisit Tulsi Gabbert history of lies,
why don't we get a few more sound bites of what this interview kind of turned into?
Let's watch.
>> Are you Jewish?
We've got a letter that your campaign sent out earlier this year which reads as
follows.
As a proud american Jew, I've been to Israel numerous times for educational,
business and leisurely trips.
You said there in that letter that you are, quote, a proud American Jew.
How do you explain that?
>> My heritage is Jewish.
I've always identified as Jewish, I was raised a practicing catholic.
I think I've gone through this even I've not being raised a practicing Jew.
I've always joked with friends and circles.
Even in the campaign, I'd say, guys, I'm Jewish, remember I was raised catholic.
So, look, I understand everybody wants to nitpick at me.
>> No, this isn't nitpicking.
You can't claim that you're Jewish.
Get caught in the lie and say no, no, no, I didn't mean Jewish, I meant Jew-ish.
How is that in any way a good answer to the question?
Just a little bit of, I don't know.
Honesty, when you're finally caught, just admit.
Hey, you know what, I thought this would be good for my campaign and
I shouldn't have done it, I apologize.
And to be quite honest with you,
I agree with those who think that Santos should step down, he should resign.
He seems unwilling to do so.
And look, we've gone over all of his lies.
Everything that he has claimed to have accomplished turns out to be a lie.
Including the notion that he owned 13 properties, turns out he owned zero.
He lives with his sister.
He did not get to college degrees from Baruch College and from NYU.
He lied about that.
Well, this goes on and on.
So I'm not making excuses for him.
But for anyone who thinks it makes sense to give Tulsi Gabbert of all
people a round of applause for really holding his feet to the fire.
I think you should really consider her own history and
what she has lied about to the American people, to her own constituents.
Now she changes her political views depending on what's advantageous for
her profits.
What's advantageous for her political career?
What's advantageous for her quest now to be a Fox News host.
But again,
we'll revisit that cuz I think it's important to understand that she really
has no leg to stand on when it comes to the question of integrity and honesty.
One more clip though, because this is what seems to be getting the most attention
from her interview with Congressman-elect, George Santos.
>> These are blatant lies.
My question is, do you have no shame?
Do you have no shame in the people who are now you're asking to trust you to go and
be their voice for them, their families and their kids in Washington?
>> Tulsi, I can say the same thing about the Democrats and the party.
Look at Joe Biden, Joe Biden has been lying to the American people for 40 years.
He's the president of the United States, Democrats resoundingly support him.
Do they have no shame?
I made this very clear- >> This is not about
the Democratic Party, though.
This is about your relationship,
frankly with the people who have entrusted you to go and and fight for them.
>> So listen, if any other person made that exact same point,
that would be a perfect interview.
I have no problem with it whatsoever.
What I do have a problem with is Tulsi Gabbert of all people making
these points when she knows her history of lying to her own voters.
When she knows that in 2020 when she was, in 2019 actually,
when she announced her bid in the 2020 presidential election.
She pretended as though her past anti-gay stances are no
longer the beliefs that she holds today.
She lied to the American people about that.
Because she felt that it would be politically advantageous to pretend as
though she has completely changed her views on the LGBTQ community.
And I wanna revisit that because while there are many lies that she told
including the lie that she's anti-war, she's not anti-war.
She's on the record saying that when it comes to the war on terror, she's hawkish.
What do you think that means?
I mean, you could say that obviously invading Iraq,
that was the war on terror, Afghanistan, war on terror.
You can't say that you're an anti-war candidate when you also
simultaneously say you're supportive of wars against terror.
But let's leave the foreign policy aside for a moment and
just go back to the whole LGBTQ issue.
Cuz there's a lot that I think Americans are not privy to about both
her history and how she changed her stance
on the LGBTQ community depending on what was politically expedient.
Now, the New Yorker reported that she advocated against
legislation in Hawaii to combat anti-gay bullying.
Saying it would be inviting homosexual-advocacy organizations into
our schools to promote their agenda to our vulnerable youth.
I want you to keep that in mind.
Okay, the whole gay agenda, ooh, the LGBTQ community,
they're trying to indoctrinate our Children.
She had said that in the past.
But when she announced that she was running for president in 2019,
she apologized for it.
Because she was running as a Democrat and she was attempting to appeal to
Progressives and many Progressives fell for it, they did.
They thought that she was this progressive powerhouse and
she was such a wonderful person because she was willing to step down
from a position at the DNC in order to show support for Bernie Sanders.
Little did they know that she was already having issues within the DNC.
Because of the fact that she was the only Democrat who was willing to go watch
Benjamin Netanyahu speak when he visited the United States and
spoke before Republicans in Congress.
So the Democratic Party overall already had an issue with her prior to
the Democratic primaries in 2016.
That was really the reason why she stepped down from the DNC,
it had nothing to do with Bernie Sanders.
But she liked pretending as though she was Progressive when it was, again,
politically advantageous to her.
Now, when the New Yorker reported that, she later came out and apologized.
She said, these are my past views.
She had a lengthy Twitter thread about it.
And I even linked to that thread on my own Twitter page.
If you guys wanna check out the multiple tweets dating back to January 17 of 2019,
I'll give you a few of them.
In one of these tweet, she writes, over the years I formed my own
opinions based on my life experience that changed my views, interesting.
At a personal level in having aloha, love, for all people, and
ensuring that every American, regardless of sexual orientation or
gender identity, is treated equally under the law.
Again, this is from January 17th, 2019,
when she's getting ready to run for president.
She also wrote in that twitter thread, quote, I know that LGBTQ plus people
still struggle, are still facing discrimination, are still facing abuse.
And still fear that their hard won rights are going to be taken
away by people who hold views like I used to.
Now for anyone who's been paying close attention to politics,
especially over the recent year,
you know that Tulsi Gabbert wasn't being honest in that Twitter thread.
Because she went right back to her roots.
And I think it's important to understand her roots.
Now after leaving the Democratic Party, she is back to her old antics saying
things that are pretty awful about the LGBTQ community.
She claimed that President Joe Biden's administration is targeting as terrorists,
parents who are vocally standing in opposition to radical curriculums and
explicit sexual content being taught to their kids in public schools.
Gabbert went on to say the administration is erasing women by supporting
transgender people.
Now these are Republican talking points, Conservative talking points.
I mean, it's right wing 101,
this is what they campaigned on in the midterm elections and
luckily did not win many of the elections that they thought they would win.
This is exactly what you would hear from a far right politician.
And this is what she's spewing because now she has made her pivot back to the right.
I think it's important to keep that in mind.
And when I say back to the right, what do I mean by that?
Well, she had these anti-LGBTQ views before,
she blamed it on her conservative upbringing.
This isn't really who I am, I grew up.
And look, I had a conservative upbringing, okay,
I remember having views that are contrary to what I believe today.
So when it came to her views on the LGBTQ community,
I was willing to give her the benefit of the doubt, but I was skeptical.
Because of where she was raised, how she was raised and
more importantly how she still has ties to, let's just keep it real,
occult that she doesn't like talking about.
And anyone who mentions the cult is immediately defamed
as an anti-Hindu individual, Hindu phobic.
That is complete BS because the cult she's involved in has nothing to do with
the Hindu religion at all, at all.
It is actually defamatory towards people of faith who practice the Hindu
religion to say that what she's brought up in, what she practices,
what she believes in, is in any way related to the Hindu religion.
Now, what do I mean by that?
Well, She was associated
with a group that's known as The Science of Identity Foundation.
There are interviews with people who used to be part of this group,
it's well documented.
And you should look into it if you think what I'm saying is in any way offensive to
the Hindu religion because it's not, again, it has nothing to do with it.
Now Science of Identity Foundation is an offshoot of the Harry Krishna
religious movement that was started by a man by the name of Chris Butler.
Now, Chris Butler [LAUGH] is a cult leader.
He hasn't appeared in public at all, but
he was definitely anti-gay and he was skeptical of public education.
He felt that public schools were indoctrinating kids due to the gay agenda,
sound familiar, and he started his own private
schools that were questionable to say the least.
Now why do I say that?
Well, Butler taught that homosexuality is evil, using very virulent homophobic
rhetoric, and that public schools and the outside world were not to be trusted.
Children of followers were homeschooled and some, including Gabbert,
were later sent to schools that The Science of Identity Foundation
created in the Philippines.
Now, what did kids deal with once they were sent to those schools in
the Philippines?
Luckily there is some testimony from a man named Rahma Ramzan who luckily escaped
that cult even though he was raised within it.
And here's what he said he experienced at these schools.
>> We had to listen to his tapes and we had to listen to his lectures every day.
I remember as a young kid listening to extremely graphic lectures constantly.
Where he's always talking about sex and describing in pornographic detail.
What it's like to look at a pornographic magazine or
what depraved activities that homosexuals get up to.
Or that maybe straight people get up to out in the world.
Using all this fair tactics- >> Your parents would make you listen to
that stuff about sex when you were six, seven, eight years old?
>> Absolutely.
>> Now this group, again, The Science of Identity Foundation has confirmed that
Rahma Ramzan was part of their group and is no longer part of their group.
And I think that confirmation is important because what if this is just some random
person who's making accusations about some group that he was never involved in.
But in this case, it's been confirmed.
The man you just heard from was part of SIF or The Science of Identity Foundation.
Now going back to the content that you just heard,
the statement you just heard from him.
So this anti-gay cult leader forces little Children
as young as six to watch pornographic material.
Listen to incredibly explicit sexual content that's meant to essentially
indoctrinate them into hating members of the LGBTQ community.
Now I want you to go back to graphic four here, where Tulsi Gabbert
stated that she's concerned about the Biden administration.
Tulsi claimed that President Joe Biden's administration is targeting as terrorists,
parents who are vocally standing in opposition to radical curriculums and
explicit sexual content being taught to their kids in public schools.
So when we talk about projection, this is what we mean.
Because where do members of the right wing get that idea from?
That the LGBTQ community, the gay agenda is like they've infiltrated public
schools, they're trying to convince kids to be gay, to be transgender.
Where do they get these crazy ideas from?
Could it be some of the indoctrination that Tulsi Gabbert received when she was
going to this school or when she was being home schooled.
I mean, it's just really, really interesting stuff, right?
And also when the organization that she was part of was forcing kids to consume
that disgusting, explicit material when they were as young as six.
Did she have a problem with it?
Or does she only have a problem with it when she can pretend she's concerned about
the Biden administration going after parents who are concerned about sexually
explicit material in the classroom?
I mean, this woman is a liar through and through.
And if you're wondering whether or not she's still part of the Science Identity,
I'm sorry, The Science of Identity Foundation, I don't know for sure.
But I do know that she met her ex husband and current husband within this group and
she gets real defensive and testy if anyone's critical of this group.
I'll be critical all day, doesn't make you a hater of the Hindu religion.
It doesn't make you some sort of hateful bigoted individual when you're
calling out a cult that teaches this disgusting material and
indoctrinates little Children into hating members of the LGBTQ community.
And they'll get all upset on Twitter and they'll come after me,
they'll come after anyone, they'll swarm in because they want to get defensive.
But this is the disgusting stuff that goes on in this country.
This is the disgusting stuff that deserves a lot more reporting.
And I'm sorry, well, I think it's definitely legitimate
to go after Congressman-elect George Santos for the lies he told on his resume.
I think it's equally acceptable if not more necessary to be
fully aware of who Tulsi Gabbard really is.
What she really stands for and how her political identity isn't really about
the right or the left, it's about herself, it's about political power.
And while she might be a host on Fox News today,
I guarantee you, she's setting herself up for politics in the future.
And maybe we should be a little more informed about who she really is.
So people don't get duped by the lies that she tells in an effort to
accumulate power for herself.
That's who Tulsi Gabbert is.
So spare me the lectures about integrity and honesty.
And if she wants to address anything that I've talked about on the show today,
she's free to do so, I invite her on the show.
>> Maybe for the first time she won't run away from me and
she'll actually answer some of the questions I have, we'll see.