Socialite and predator and accomplice to another socialite and predator,
Jeffrey Epstein.
Ghislaine Maxwell has been found guilty of five of six charges of criminal sex
trafficking of minors,
charges that could ultimately land her up to 65 years in prison.
So effectively the rest of her life,
I just wanna read some reactions from one of the most high-profile victims.
Virginia Giuffre Ray who was not called to testify but
whose testimony has led to others coming forward.
And has really been the impetus behind this case against both Epstein but
also Gillian Maxwell.
She says to the cut, I've been dreaming of this day for the last 10 years,
not knowing that it was going to come.
It's a bittersweet emotion because I have been fighting for so
long and it's definitely not over, there are many more people involved with this.
It doesn't stop with Maxwell, but
it's definitely a relief to know that she's off the streets and no matter how
rich or how connected you are that you can still be held accountable.
All right, well, there you have it.
So no matter how rich or how powerful or how well connected you are.
And so interestingly, some media outlets turn to different experts,
some victims to give their thoughts about the verdict on Ghislaine Maxwell.
And many have turned to Alan Dershowitz, a notorious attorney and also
notorious because he was in fact named by Virginia Giuffre a in her testimony.
She has said that Epstein forced her to have sex with both Alan Dershowitz.
Dershowitz and Prince Andrew an allegation that they both have denied.
Another woman, Sarah ransome, said that Epstein and Maxwell directed her to have
sex with Dershowitz, which the famed attorney has also denied.
If you remember in a clip, I do not wanna play Alan Dershowitz has said he is never,
he doesn't know this woman that he has a quote perfect sex life.
For some reason he had to add that.
You wonder what that entails, probably not healthy.
But let's take a look at Dershowitz, his first responses from the BBC right
reputable news outlet turning to Alan Dershowitz who had been named by a victim.
This is what Dershowitz had to say.
>> The government was very careful who it uses witnesses.
It did not use as a witness.
The woman who accused Prince Andrew accused me, accused many
other people because the government didn't believe she was telling the truth.
In fact, she Virginia goo Frey was mentioned in the trial as somebody
who brought young people to Epstein for him to abuse.
And so this case does nothing at all to strengthen in any way
the case against Prince Andrew.
Indeed, it weakens the case against Prince Andrew considerably because
the government was very selective in who had used it used only witnesses who they
believed were credible.
Incredible and they deliberately didn't use the main witness,
the woman who started the whole investigation, Virginia Goofy,
because ultimately they didn't believe she was telling the truth.
They didn't believe that a jury would believe her and they were right in doing.
>> So I'm sorry what?
Okay guys, that was his response to a hey, what do you make of this
predator being found guilty for all of her horrible crimes?
And then Alan Dershowitz was just like, well it was great that they didn't call
this one witness who has named me in in her testimony because that witness is bad.
Dude, way to make it about yourself, Jake way in here, what is going on?
>> Yeah, that was, well, I was gonna say a terrible oversight and I think it is, and
you'll see BBC's reaction to this story in a second
in American media of course that would not be an oversight.
That that's, they do that all the time.
So and I don't mean in the case of child molestation, but I mean in many other
cases they'll have people that are involved in giant industries.
That will push those giant industries and
they'll never say by the way this person is a lobbyist or works for them etc.
So for us in America were a little bit more used to it, but
it is a particularly outrageous case to do it in.
And if you watch the whole appearance, he really does nothing but
smear the woman who accused them and defend himself.
So it barely has a fig leaf for any kind of excuse to have him on or
what his so-called expert analysis is,
he doesn't even really talk about the heart of the case.
He just talks about how man, the government did a brilliant job of
not using that person who has accused me over and over and over again.
>> [LAUGH] Yes.
>> And look, so Dershowitz has been basically riding
on his Harvard pedigree for his whole life.
But now we've got folks who went to Stanford or
professor at Stanford who then are now pushing covid conspiracy theories.
And they're going on podcasts and people are saying, well,
he's a professor at Stanford it must be true.
Not noting that 99.9% of all other doctors and professors and scientists disagree.
And to me, Dershowitz is pretty similar to that he's represented
some of the worst people on planet Earth.
Not only is he accused in this particular case, but
remember he was also Jeffrey Epstein's lawyer, right?
And this is really important guys when he represented Claus von Bulow OJ.
Epstein and by the way, all Rich, all famous,
he was not a publicly appointed lawyer,
he chose to represent those people for money and fame.
And so he's been riding on a credibility, he hasn't deserved in decades,
let alone what monstrous thinks he might or might not have done.
And look, he's become absolutely Giuliani esque.
And later in his career has now lost and
shredded any ounce of credibility that he had.
And he even talks like trump, that's why he likely why he said he has a perfect
sex life, like trump had a perfect call.
These guys have all become zombies.
And by the way, this is another thing that, that people who have been accused
and don't all go running to the right wing because a lot of folks didn't do it right?
And I don't know the details Dershowitz case and
I hope one day it does get adjudicated.
But some folks, both after the fact and preemptively if they think they're going
to be credibly accused, go running into the welcoming arms of the right wing.
Because they know the right wing doesn't actually care about any sex
crimes to molestation, you could do anything and
as long as you call yourself right wing, they will accept you and defend you.
>> Yes, absolutely.
And I do wanna turn to a clip on Fox News, but first the BBC did feel bad.
They were like, whoops seas are we, has this not been going on for
years and years as Dershowitz not been defaming do Frey for years.
Just defamation, lawsuits back and forth between his alleged victim and
himself, but no, okay, so I guess they had an oversight.
So they issued this statement they said news channel and BBC World,
the interview with Alan Dershowitz after the Gillian Maxwell
verdict did not meet the BBC's editorial standards.
As Mr. Dershowitz was, I'm not a suitable person to interview as an impartial
analyst and we did not make the relevant background clear to our audience.
We will look into how this happened, [LAUGH] but
you didn't even push back, I mean, have him on but ask him about it, right?
He's obviously divulging a bunch of information about
himself without you needing to.
And as Jake said, this is a clear,
I mean, it happens all the time in American Media and in fact.
Fox News also had Alan Dershowitz again who has been named by one of the victims
of Epstein and Maxwell as someone who she was forced to have sex
with here is how he's talking about her.
Now on Fox, he's being asked, okay, what you're just you're top line reactions
again, he's making it about this woman and himself take a look.
>> One of the women testified, she was 14 or 15 years old.
She was brought to Epstein for money by Virginia Gruffer a who
was well over the age of consent, Virginia Goo fray.
Then, according to the testimony at the trial, got naked,
had sex with Jeffrey Epstein in order to facilitate her having sex with Epstein.
So Goof Ray, under the theory of the prosecution is guilty as well.
Yes, there are victims, but there are also perpetrators and some of the people could
be both victims and perpetrators go free, could be a victim at one point.
But then she became a perpetrator and a perjurer at another point.
>> Okay, I just have to say that, you do reading on this,
you start to, if you're only coming into this story.
And you're hearing someone like Alan Dershowitz, go on Fox News,
go on the BBC and defame someone who was a victim.
And I'm gonna play you a clip exactly.
In terms of how she was victimized, but you're starting to think, there are people
out there who probably think, yeah, this woman should also be prosecuted.
Because yes, she also brought people into the sphere she traffic too,
so she should be prosecuted to and I am so disgusted that someone as powerful.
And as influential as Alan Dershowitz is actually getting the upper hand on this
story right now against someone who is a victim.
And I do want to play just before I turned to you,
this is Virginia goo free in her own words, to the Miami Herald,
remember that Harold was very influential in breaking the Epstein story.
And breaking the Gillian Maxwell story, this is what she describes how that
happened, how she was 16 and she was asked essentially, and forced, right?
And she was manipulated.
Talk about groomed in order to get more and more young girls for both Dillane and
Jeffrey Epstein, she explains how that works briefly here.
>> It kind of works like a pyramid scheme.
Guillen brought me in, I brought other girls in.
Those girls brought other girls in and no matter what,
Jeffrey constantly had that open revolving door of young women, young teenagers.
Children, I like to call them coming through his door for
one purpose and one purpose alone.
>> There you go, a pyramid scheme of child sex trafficking.
She was 16 when it started, she is now 38 and
this is the person that Dershowitz is trying to basically smear.
And dragged through the mud as this giant breakthrough has happened in her case.
>> Yeah, it's look, there's two layers of outrage here, one is having this guy who's
accused in this case, come on and smear one of the victims over and over again.
And imply that she is a perjurer and that she herself is the real culprit
without giving the victim a chance to air her side of the story,
even if you're not sure what happened there.
Well, it doesn't seem quite fair does it,
that you only give a hearing to the person who is accused of being a child molester,
wait a minute, I thought the right wing were was obsessed with no Cunanan.
And the leaders and elites who are molesting children and
have a child sex trafficking ring.
Wait a minute, Ghislaine Maxwell and
Jeffrey Epstein had a child sex trafficking ring.
Why is Fox News airing and sheltering Alan Dershowitz,
who is accused as part of that ring?
Maybe he isn't, I don't know, and by the way, I'm really,
really looking forward to that being adjudicated.
So if he's right, great, he'll have his day in his court, he claims he's one of
the best lawyers in the country, can't wait to see that in civil Court,
criminal Court, wherever that might be, and maybe he's right.
I don't know, but I'd really like to see the evidence, but
Fox News doesn't care about the evidence there, like that's our expert.
Our expert is the one accused of child molestation and
that's because we think he's awesome.
And the second layer of the outrages, not only are they not allowing the victim on,
but they're pretending especially the BBC in the way that they framed him.
At least Fox introduced him as someone, I can't believe Fox did better than BBC as
someone who's has some interest in the case.
And he's involved somehow BBC introduced him as a neutral expert.
That's ridiculous, he's gross, he's clearly one sided and
on this side in this case, the one side is his side,
he's involved in it and so this is, this is not a close case.
BBC with a massive error, Fox News is actually par for the course,
I mean if you're like Roy Moore or Donald Trump or Matt Gates or
any of these right wingers accused of sexual crimes against children.
You go right into the welcoming, welcoming warm arms of Fox News and
they will have you as long as you hate the Libs.
What you do to children is totally irrelevant, and
I mentioned Donald Trump in that context.
So of course the right way he's gonna catch feelings,
please don't just trust us, look it up for yourself.
Donald Trump's exact quote which I read yesterday you saw on my twitter
handle about how Jeffrey Epstein was a quote terrific guy.
That they had known each other and partied together for 15 years and
there's tons of pictures of them hanging out together.
Also pictures of Donald Trump with Gillian Maxwell and
he said well Jeffrey likes them young, he knew at a bare minimum.
Trump always knew and then after everything was exposed and Epstein went
to jail and then committed suicide and by the way every right winger and
every Q and on goes like yeah which democrat killed him.
You know the president at the time was Donald J Trump who
was best friends with Jeffrey Epstein.
I don't know if they were best friends, excellent friends, but
they trump admits they were great friends right and he's and Trump knew trump.
Look I don't know what Clinton did, I don't know what trump did,
I don't know what Dershowitz did but they all knew and
were great great friends with Epstein and Maxwell that's a fact.
And so the right wing doesn't seem to care at all.
And when after Maxwell was arrested,
even after Epstein's so-called suicide Trump said that he wished her well.
And if you thought that was now right wingers are claiming that
was a joke hilarious.
You're the joke, we showed it to you two different occasions,
reporter asking really?
She's one of the worst mom accused child molesters in American history and he's
like, yeah, I wish her well yeah, that's because they're really good friends.
Stop looking at pizza shop basements and start looking.
Don't look down, look up, look up.
>> [LAUGH] he was on the flight logs,
look up at the little private plane they were on together.
It is discussing, the last thing I wanted to say is it is such a bad look
if the person who you've associated with, who's who's good.
Who's longtime partner you defended Jeffrey Epstein was just found
guilty on five of six charges, largely based on this woman's testimony.
Yes, she didn't testify, right?
Maybe she didn't testify,
she did the prosecution didn't see her as the best witness.
They had plenty of witnesses sadly in this case to go on.
So they had other women testify as to all of Ghislaine Maxwell's crimes,
but then to be like,
all the rest of these people are telling the truth and this one woman.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, she's lying.
Excuse me, come again.
How does that, aren't you the attorney?
How does that hold up at all wouldn't you then be saying that the jury was
completely wrong in this case then,
wouldn't you be on Ghislaine Maxwell's side?
Just come out with it, say that you're on her side?
>> Yeah, look I'm just gonna say I'm gonna read the quote one more time because I
just want people to understand the degree to which Donald Trump definitely
knew that f scene was with underage girls.
Okay don't get me wrong, I said yeah, what about Bill Clinton?
Yeah, absolutely, you know Gillian Maxwell was at Chelsea Clinton's wedding.
All of these elites were best friends and very likely they all knew.
Now here's Trump admitting it, he said to New York Magazine at the time, I've known
Jeff for 15 years. Terrific guy, this is a direct quote. He's a lot of fun to be
with, he's a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as
much as I do and many of them are on the younger side, many of them are on the
younger side and he's a terrific guy. That's so much fun to be with? So
right wingers,
you should maybe
ask your leader,
what kind of fun
did he have with
Jeffrey Epstein.