and I wonder when I see this HTC vive
I'm like what is that thing gonna be ten
years from now when we're making fun of
what it is now what is it how I mean how
ingrained and how how how connected and
interconnected is this technology gonna
be in our life it will be at some point
indistinguishable from reality where
we'll lose this we'll lose this like you
and I are just looking each other
through our eyes I see where you see me
I think I hope you think so I think you
probably have brought out regular eyes
this could be some simulation it could
do you entertain that well the argument
for the simulation I think is quite
strong because if you assume any
improvements at all over time any
improvement 1% 0.1% just extend the time
frame make it a thousand years a million
years the universe is 13.8 billion years
old or what a civilization if you count
it if you're very generous civilization
is maybe seven or eight thousand years
old if you count it from the first
writing this is nothing this is nothing
so if you assume any rate of improvement
at all then games will be
indistinguishable from reality or
civilization will end one of those two
things will occur although we are most
likely in a simulation or we're on suite
system right well we could most
certainly be on the road we could be on
the road to that right it doesn't mean
that it has to be a base reality it
could be any base reality we could be
here now on our way to the road or on
our way to the destination where this
can never happen again where we are
completely ingrained in some sort of an
artificial technology or some sort of a
symbiotic relationship with the internet
or the next level of sharing information
but right now we're not there yet that's
possible too right it's possible that is
Simula
is one day going to be inevitable that
we're gonna have something that's
indistinguishable from regular reality
but maybe we're not there yet that's
also possible when yes quite yet that
this is real when I touch that feels
very real
maybe that's why everybody's like into
like mason jars and shit amazing suede
shoes people are into like craft
restaurants and they wouldn't want raw
wood
everyone says everyone ought to see
metal people it seems like people are
like longing towards some weird log
cabin tightness around reality yeah I
like holding on like clinging just sure
anyway I don't want to sound like like
thanks for to dark because I think like
you kind of have to be optimistic about
the future there's no point in being
pessimistic it's just too negative this
house doesn't help you know I think you
want to be I mean my theory is like
you'd rather be optimistic
I think abroad I'd rather be optimistic
and wrong than pessimistic and right
right at least or on that side right
yeah is if you're pessimistic is going
to be miserable
are you a proponent of the multi
universes theory do you believe that
there are many many universes and that
even if this one fades out that there's
other ones that are starting fresh right
now and there's an infinite number of
them they're just constantly in this
never-ending cycle of birth and death I
think most likely this is just about
probability there are many many
simulations these simulations are we
might as well call them reality or you
could call them multiverse these
simulations you believe are created like
someone has many if they're running on
the substrate so that substrate is
probably boring boring mm-hmm how so
well when we create a simulation like a
game or a movie it's the distillation of
what's interesting about life you know I
get it takes take a year to shoot an
action movie and then that's all
distilled down into two or three hours
so let me tell you if you see an action
movie being filmed
friggin boring super boring
takes there's like lots of takes so
everything is in a green screen looks
pretty goofy doesn't look cool but once
you add the CGI and have great editing
it's amazing so I think most likely if
we're a simulation it's really boring
outside the simulation because why would
you make a simulation that's boring it
makes simulation way more interesting
the base reality that is if this right
now is a simulation yes and ultimately
inevitably we're if as long as we don't
die or get hit by a meteor we're going
to create some sort of simulation if we
continue on the same technological path
where we're on right now yes but we
might not be there yet so it might not
be a simulation here but it most likely
is you feel other places this notion of
place or where is is a flawed yes flawed
version like that if you have this sort
of that vive you know for though that's
made by valve and steam and it's really
valve that made it
HTC did the hardware that is really a
valve thing makers of half-life yes hmm
valve great company great company when
you're in that and that's in that
virtual reality which is only gonna get
better
where are you where are you really right
you aren't anywhere well where is in the
computer what well you know what defines
where you are exactly right it's your
perception is it your perceptions or is
it you know a scale that we have onto
your but you're right here I've measured
you you're the same weight as you wear
when you left
oh you mean while your experience I
didn't think you're where you are right
now you might not be i'll spark up a
joint if you keep talking your managers
gonna come in here we might have to lock
the door right now you think you're in a
studio in LA that's what i heard you
might be in a computer Oh missing me I
think about this all the time
yeah I mean it's unquestionable that one
day that'll be the case as long as we
keep going as long as nothing interrupts
us and if we start from scratch and you
know we're single-celled organisms all
over again and then millions and
millions of years later we become the
next thing that is us with creativity
and the ability to change this
environment it's gonna keep monkeying
with things until it figures out a way
to change reality to change I mean to
almost like punch a hole through what is
this thing into what what it wants it to
be and create new things and then those
new things will intersect with other
people's new things and then it'll be
this ultimate pathway of infinite ideas
and expression all through technology
yeah and then we're wondering we're
gonna wonder like why are we here what
are we doing let's find out well I mean
I think we should take the actions the
set of actions that are most likely to
make the future better yes right Yeah
right right and then we evaluate those
actions to make sure they're there that
it's true