Translator: Maria Cinta Lleixà Barberà Reviewer: Marina Fernández Tur
Good afternon!
There is here a kind of...guillotine like a clock,
they have told it is only 18 minutes. It seems as Cuní speaking fast.
The truth is that after such a great rumba and the music and the swing
that we had enjoyed, talking about a topic so hard, I would not do it,
and I will apologize, even kneeling, but the reality we live is what it is.
So, as we have little time, I will try to state four, five,
six basic ideas, here, in the public square, to use them
to broaden your knowledge or confirm it.
You may not have the same opinion,
but you can understand the situation. We face a problem...
There are some problems in the world,
One seem very clear, we get it thorugh our dinning room, or sometimes,
through the very closed news, some more distants,
that is related to an ideological phenomenon, and it seems religious too,
that is killing people.
If we counted the number of dead people because of terrorist attacks
since the phenomenon began, we would talk about thousands of people.
I could count quickly, you would be scared, 500 in Kenya, 200 in Argentina,
4.000 in New York, 500 in a disco in Bali, more than 400 in an islamic school,
200 in Atocha, etc. Thousands.
Apart from, obviously, the war phenomenon derived, right?
What happens in the world? It happens quite a lot, because of this topic,
I repeat the question. What happens in the world?
I will put it as questions and answers.
And you may accept it or not. Perahaps today is not the day,
but whenever else. Firslty. Is a religious belief threatening us?
What happens in the world, what I call the evil ideology,
and other specialists, Luxvan, for example called it nihilistic totalitarism,
and we agree that we are talking about
a new kind of totalitarism. This happens due to an important element.
First question about Islam. Is Islam threatening us? Or is it something else?
I will answer it categorically and clearly Islam is a concept
that unite different kinds of people. They come from different places, cultures.
They hold different perceptions, thoughts. They are nearly 1 500 millions of people,
About 1400, 1500 millions. They are plural, varied,
and much people were killed by this nonsense. So, there is no way.
We must not confuse ourselves with this.
Because it is at the basis of everything.
Religion is not the problem. We can see, sporadically,
some religious problems, if they become a source of fanatism, or if they become
source of authority, etc. Religions are different among them.
But society as a whole can not have some problem with a predominant religion
and more than billions of people. We cannot believe this, because we would
sentence Malala to death, who is muslim and tried to go to university.
And they wanted to kill her. Or another 9 years aged girl who fought
to get divorced from a rapist husband. He was 35 years old and she was 9 years old.
He abused her. Finally, she could get divorced from him,
We would also condemn a friend of mine, Wafa Sultan, a syrian thinker,
who helds three fatwas of death. She is muslim and had to gone to exile
in Los Angeles. Or we would condemn so many others like Shirin Ebadi.
She is the first judge from Pèrsia, Iran. But when the Ayatollahs arrived,
she was not allowed to be a judge.
She won the Nobel Peace Prize and stand with dissents, students, women
and against stonings in Iran.
The most important thing is that there is no god betraying us,
or a cultural system that unites millions of people and their lacks,
experiences, beliefs, and suffering this terrbile and terrifying farm
An ideology is the problem.
In the same way that Germany was not the problem. The problem was Nazism.
And the beliefs about social justice or social change were not the problem.
Stalinism was the problem. And it is why many people died.
Then, the problem continues not to be, under any circumstance,
sensitivity, culture or religion. But the ideology that uses them badly.
Let me tell it, I am non-believer and I would like to say that gods
are not guilty of it. But, the perverse and wrong use of gods is.
In the same way that sometimes people use well gods and they are esteemed
Firstly, there is no problem about Islam.
There is a problem about a totalitary ideology, that has taken islamic ideas
and uses them to kill people and to fanaticize and rule people.
Secondly, we're totally speaking about a totalitarian ideology.
During the 20th, we lived under the control of Nazism and Stalinism.
Nazism killed one hundred million people, Stalinism also killed millions of people.
Nowadays, during the 20th century, Islamism is the totalitarian ideology
that threatens the world.
When I mention Islamism, I'm talking about an ideology that wants to establish
sharia as the unique social law.
We face a totalitarian phenomenon that has changed the thoughts of many people.
Thousands of people.
This phenomenon is harmful and terrorizes us. Then,
Is jihadism the problem? Or it is just part of it?
Later, you'll listen a talking about Kobane. It is a Kurdish city, withstanding
the war along the border with Turkey. Precisely Turkey, where Daesh could
walk along its border.
What a shame, Turkey! What a shame, Europe!
But it doesn't matter now. But, what a shame, Europe.
We're aware of this problem thanks to the mass media.
The Syrian War is the problem. Some years ago, it was the Iraqui conflict, etc.
Due to the westerners errors with the airplanes. As it would solve problems.
Anyway, these wouldn't. It seems that we had a conflict with Al-Qaeda,
which was a terrorist group.
Al- Qaeda still kills people all over the world. But to say it in one way,
it is no longer the 'most prestigious jihadist phenomenon'.
But, we do have a conflict with Daesh, or sometimes, called Islamic State.
Is it the phenomenon? Or we have a conflict with another kind of jihad?
I have such a strong opinion about it.
JIhadism, which kills children, women, entire populations,
which destroys everything (historic heritage, churches,
family groups, cities, etc. This is the jihadism phenomenon,
that we understand as violent jihadism. But I'm more worried,
and other experts also believe it, about the fact that it is a 'common' situation.
We all agree that non-violent jihadism is our problem. It is the dictatorships
that give them money, millions of dolars,
the radical imams, mullahs, and others
that annoy people.
At the end, they create a global fanatic phenomenon.
Imagine a by who wakes up one morning,
drinks a cup of coffee, says goodbye, pray to his god,
Before, he has got ready and done a ritual suicide.
gets into a trolley, in a wonderful walk, many people celebrating a feast.
Then the boy says: 'I will kill them'.
And he observes a pregnant woman about to fall.
'I will drive faster'. And those little boys running there.
'Faster'. And that family there. 'I want to kill more people.'
What happened to this boy? He has no emotional empathy, that
he doesn't understand whoever else feelings.
He thinks that if he dies when killing others, he will be glorified. .
Before it, there's a kind of preparation by destroying the elemental feelings
of the modern civilization. They are related to hatred of the others,
A massive hartred that destroys everything
It looks like the trains which carried Jewish towards death.
It's exactly the same. It's an ideology that has turned a killing machine.
And it enjoys killing many people.
The key objective is, as Luxban said, nihilism. So, it is death.
The problem is that beyond these individuals, there's a radical
idea about Islamism. And some countries in the United Nations sponsor them.
Some has even sponsored Barça F.C.
Luckily, Piqué has done something well. He actually does many good things,
But he helped us to take this horrible organization out,
from the Barça T-shirts. It was a terrible shame.
They are closed to us. They're our friends. In Saudia Arabia, for example,
our king, the previous one, who was famous for killing elephants,
gave a Golden Fleece, a high Christian emblem, to the king from Saudi Arabia,
who was an important business partner.
Just to grace him.
If you are Christian, the king from Saudi Arabia can sentence you to death.
It is contradictory, isn't it? We gave the Christian emblem to
the king of Saudi Arabia.
They are those kings, those tribal heads (that get rich due to oil).
These absolute rulers that rule a slave country.
They're people who are slaves.
But these countries are powerful in the United Nations organiziation.
And they are promoting a regressive, feudal attitues towards Islamism.
I want to mention it, because religions, obviously, were diversified,
became more modern, and were standardized.
Some time ago, in Europe, the Jewish were the group of people that
was persecuted. And they lived better in arab or muslim countries than in Europe
I would like to mention another important idea.
Someone said that it is far away. They will take their time to become modern.
It isn't true!
At some points, there have been many reformists that have tried
to connect religious beliefs and scientific issues and contemporary laws.
They were brilliant.
At certain moment, there was a guy called AlBahab.
Unluckily, we haven't much time. But he said sometimes:
No. Salaf people are the future of Islamism. The first who followed Muhammad.
So, the 8th century is the future. But, of course, we are in a 8th century,
and mobiles connected via satelite. How did they kill in Atocha?
How do they kill? By mobiles connected via satellite. As the Medieval Age.
Then, it is a lethal practice. Some years ago, someone told me
'This is Goebbels with Internet.' So, it is Goebbels with Internet.
The guys who killed people in Bataclan or those in Charlie Hebdo, or those who kill
millions of people in Pakistan, nearly mentioned. Or those who destroy Somalia
Or those who have kidnapped many young girls. And abuse them and make them slaves
in Nigeria. It is repulsive.
Totally repulsive! It means the fracture in contemporary society! The ideology
of the evil is destroying it. And all these people are connected
via Internet.! And all of them have been supported by some friends that sit
next to us in the United Nations meetings.
So, the main problem, nowadays, is not only those who killed others in Kobane.
The problem is that there are some religious leaders, and advertising
in big mass media. And they are fueling hartred against democratic rules.
Hartred to freedom. Terrible dominance over women.
They are completely so misogynist,
and even the most terrifying thing in Kobane, sure they will explain it better
is Kurdish warring. They are cool. They're very young and put their life
in danger to save other people. And they also die.
They're frigthened. Because if a woman kills them, they won't go to Heaven.
So, we can't kill them! We, women, can't kill them!
But we live in the 21st century.
We are in the 21st century and there's a mass ideology!
And it is about to come back to the 8th century. When slaves exist.
Where there's only one god. Where women can only give birth and to hurt them.
Is this the 21st century?
I hate Al-Qaeda, Daesh, murderers,
They are terrifying! But I hate more these rulers of countries, with lots of money,
Those who completely rule us. Those who are against modern rules
Those who are against modern rules and freedom.
Years ago, at a conference about terrorism in Paris, I was asked a question.
I can't remember exactly when the conference was. But it was long time ago.
I was in a small group of experts of this topic.
Everybody knows it. And we were asked a very simple question.
It is the worst totalitarian ideology in the world.
Some Jewish people there complained and said: Nazism was the worst,
They did business killing people. And this person, whose name I can't mention,
said, 'Is it Goebbels with Internet?
How many are our enemies? Are they enemies of freedom?
Are they enemies of contemporary times? Are they enemies of tolerance?
How many are they?
Moreover, how many muslims are in the world? About 1400, 1500 millions
of people. Most of them were under the control of dictatorships.
Most of them don't read books by Espinoza, or Voltaire, or Descartes.
But this is not the point. Most of them are under the power of dictatorship
from the first minute. Don't forget it, if you put your mother down in your home,
you're not a fighter for freedom.
If your mother, your sister, and your daughter teach you to understimate them,
You start to destroy freedom.
So, this is an important topic. How many?
1400, 1500 millions of people. I answered:
Not most of them. Most of them see a terrorist attack, Charlie Hebdo,
Bataclan, hundreds of persons going out a Friday night to a concert,
and some who want to kill them.
Most of them see it in Al-Jazeera TV channel, and claimed:
'They aren't my representatives, I don't share the same religious beliefs.
How many? Fifty per cent? Sure not. Forty per cent?
Ok. Let's say thirty per cent.
We're optimistics. 400 millions of people.
Let's imagine that only ten per cent of them want to be warriors.
Forty millions of people?
How many people are in Catalonia? People who have strong beliefs
against freedom. Intelligence services talk about twent-five percent
of muslims. What a surprise!
Most of them want to live in our country, with freedom and rights. Ok.
But twenty five per cent of people implies 100 thousands persons.
Has ever been any Radical party with so many supporters?
Connected to Al Jaazera? Moreover, most of the times, they don't speak the language,
not so Catalan. Neither Spanish.
Do you guess how many terrorists have gone to fight there?
How many with a Barça supporter identification? How many with
a credit card? Someone very famous with a card from La Caixa killed 300 people
of the italian army in Syria. Very long time ago.
This is the matter. Unfortunately, I'm out of time. So, to sum up,
This ideology is supported by fuel selling and this is what matters.
Our critical thinking has been kidnapped. We can't react and our will is damaged.
Here, there is a sentence by Wafa Sultan: It doesn't matter if you like rocks.
But don't throw me them. Thank you.
(Applause)