>> James: SO NICE TO SEE YOU.
>> WELL, HELLO.
>> James: THANK YOU FOR JUDGING OUR SIDE DISH
COMPETITION.
HAVE YOU EVER JUDGED ANYTHING PROFESSIONALLY BEFORE?
>> NO, I FEEL LIKE IT'S A CELEBRITY RIGHT OF PASSAGE TO GO
ON A SHOW AND JUDGE AN OUTFIT, HAIRSTYLE, NEVER DONE IT.
>> James: NEVER DONE IT.
AD I'M VERY JUDGMENTAL, SO I DON'T KNOW WHY I HAVEN'T BEEN
ASKED.
>> James: YVONNE, YOUR FAMILY MOVED TO THE U.S. FROM NIGERIA,
YOU WERE SIX WHEN THEY MOVED.
>> YES.
>> James: DID YOU AS A FAMILY GET ON BOARD WITH THAFLG RIGHT
AWAY?
>> WE AS KIDS WERE JUST HAPPY TO HAVE A DAY OFF FROM SCHOOL.
THESE AMERICANS LOVE VACATIONS, ET CETERA!
BUT OUR DINNERS WERE DIFFERENT.
IT WAS NOT TURKEY.
IT WAS OX TAIL AND PLANTAINS.
MY MOM WORKED IN A HOSPITAL, SO IT WAS LIKE THE FILIPINO NURSES.
SO IT WAS JUST, LIKE -- LIKE AN INTERNATIONAL FOOD COURT.
>> James: YEAH, YEAH.
SO CURRY.
>> James: THAT'S FANTASTIC.
GOAT MEAT.
>> James: WELL INTO THAT.
NO TALK OF PILGRIMS AT ALL.
>> James: NO, NOTHING.
MINDY, I WANT TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THIS BECAUSE THIS IS
SOMETHING WHICH IS NEW TO ME BUT I'M KEEN TO KNOW ABOUT IT.
YOU'VE RECENTLY GOTTEN INTO VISION BOARDS.
>> OOOH, YEAH.
>> James: TALK TO ME ABOUT THIS, WHAT DO YOU DO AND DOES IT
WORK?
>> SO I'M, AS I SAID, VERY JUDGMENTAL, SO WHEN I HEARD
ABOUT THE IDEA OF VISION BOARDS, IT FEELS LIKE A WOO, WOO, L.A.
THING TO DO.
BUT WHEN IT'S THE END OF THE YEAR AND IT'S GETTING TO BE
JANUARY FIRST AND YOU'RE LOOKING AT YOUR LIFE AND YOU SAY, I
THINK I NEED TO MAKE CHANGES HERE, I THOUGHT IT WAS FUN.
I THOUGHT IT WAS CRAFTY TO PUT TOGETHER A VISION BOARD.
>> James: OF THINGS YOU WANT TO ACHIEVE.
>> IT'S BASICALLY WHAT I THINK OF MY KIDS, A SANTA LIST OF ALL
THE THINGS THEY WANT IN THEIR LIFE AND YOU PUT THEM ON A BOARD
TO VISUALIZE IT AND YOU HANG IT UP IN A PLACE TO SEE IT AND
YOU'RE REMINDED OF IT AND IT'S SUPPOSED TO PSYCHOLOGICALLY HELP
IT COME TRUE.
>> James: HALLS IT WORKED?
NO, I HATED IT.
I PUT IT UP THERE, ALL THE THINGS I WANTED, AND NOTHING
HAPPENED.
SOMETIMES THE OPPOSITE OF THAT WOULD HAPPEN.
LITERALLY, LIKE, I WOULD SEE SOMETHING THAT I PUT UP THERE,
AND IT WAS DEFINITELY OFF THE TABLE, AND THESE ARE
EMBARRASSING THINGS, VERY VULNERABLE THINGS.
SO I WOULD PASS BUT IT EVERY DAY WHEN I WOULD LEAVE MY HOUSE.
AND I WAS, LIKE, THIS IS EMBARRASSING, I'M TAUNTED BY THE
VISION BOARD.
THEN I TOOK IT DOWN AND RIPPED IT UP AND THREW IT AWAY.
TWO MONTHS LATER, FIVE TO HAVE THE THINGS HAPPENED.
>> James: WHAT!
YEAH, SO A LITTLE SUPERNATURAL, RIGHT?
SO NOW I WAS LIKE, I WONDER IF IT WAS BECAUSE I TOOK IT DOWN.
I DON'T KNOW.
>> IT WAS UP THERE.
DO YOU THINK SO?
>> James: YOU DO THIS?
I HAVE VISION BOARD PARTIES AT THE END OF THE YEAR TO
MANIFEST, YEAH, NEXT YEAR.
( APPLAUSE ) >> James: SO FRIENDS WILL COME
OVER AND YOU WILL ALL DO A VISION BOARD TOGETHER?
>> WITH TONS OF MAGAZINES AND WE'RE CUTTING THEM OUT.
WE'LL HAVE THE HOLLYWOOD REPORTER TO OPRAH MAGAZINE.
>> OPRAH IS GREAT.
SHE'S ALWAYS SAYING ( BLEEP ).
>> YOU CAN CUT OUT WHOLE PARAGRAPHS FROM "O" MAGAZINE.
ANYWAY, MY VISION BOARDS, I USED TO MAKE THEM FOR OTHER PEOPLE AS
GIFTS.
PEOPLE WOULD WRITE RANSOM NOTES.
I WOULD BE, LIKE, WAIT A MINUTE.
THE JUDGMENT!
BECAUSE I WOULD PERSONALIZE THEM.
IF THEY WANTED TO BE AN ARTIST, I WAS FINE.
IF THEY WANTED TO BE A MUSICIAN, I WOULD GET THE MAGAZINES AND
CUT IT OUT.
I WOULD GO TO THE HIGHEST EXTENT YOU CAN DREAM FOR SOMEONE.
SO I ENVISIONED A LOT OF THINGS AND I'M STILL WAITING FOR THINGS
TO COME TRUE, HELLO.
>> James: ALL RIGHT.
ALL THREE OF US.
>> James: WE'LL DO IT.
WE'LL GET TOGETHER, THREE BOTTLES OF ROSEÉ, THREE GOSSIPY
BITCHES MAKING VISION BOARDS, THAT'S WHAT WE'LL DO.
WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE FIFTH AND FINAL SEASON OF INSECURE.
IT'S SUCH A GREAT SHOW.
EVERYONE'S SO SAD TO SEE IT END.
I KNOW THERE'S SO MUCH THAT YOU CAN'T TALK ABOUT THAT'S COMING
UP IN THE SEASON.
WHAT DO YOU THINK IT IS ABOUT THE SHOW THAT'S MADE IT RESONATE
WITH PEOPLE SO MUCH AND MADE IT SUCH A HUGE SUCCESS?
>> YOU KNOW, ONE THING I PERSONALLY LOVE ABOUT THIS SHOW
IS IT JUST SHOWS BLACK PEOPLE BEING BLACK WITHOUT ANY EXTRA
SAUCE ADDED TO THEM.
>> James: YEAH.
THERE WAS NO TRAUMA, YOU KNOW, NO ONE'S MOM'S A
CRACKHEAD.
>> James: YEAH.
UST NORMAL, EVERYDAY BLACK FOLK WHO ARE TRYING TO FIGURE
THINGS OUT.
>> GREAT LOOKING BLACK FOLK.
( LAUGHTER ) REALLY GOOD LOOKING BLACK FOLKS
FALLING IN LOVE IN SEXY, AUTHENTIC WAYS.
THEY'RE NOT JUST SLUGS.
>> YOU HAVE THE EDUCATED BLACK FOLKS.
ONE THING THAT ETHAN AND FRANCIS WERE PHENOMENAL AT DOING, THEY
SHOWED ENGLEWOOD WHICH IS PART OF L.A. THAT NORMALLY IS
DEMONIZED IN TERMS OF DRUGS OR CRIME, AND WE SHOWED THEM HAVING
GOOD RESTAURANTS.
WE SHOWED THEM WITH, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN HAVE PARKS THAT YOU CAN
HIKE UP.
IT WAS JUST NORMALIZING OF BLACK EXPERIENCES, I THINK, THAT WHEN
PEOPLE THINK ABOUT A SHOW, AND IT'S NOT EVEN A SHOW YOU CAN'T
ACT AS IF YOU'RE NOT BLACK.
WHEN PEOPLE THINK ABOUT A SHOW LIKE THAT THEY'RE, LIKE, OH,
MAN, WHERE'S THE CONFLICT?
THE CONFLICT IS JUST EVERYDAY ANGST THAT PEOPLE HAVE.
AND NOW WE'RE SHOWING THEM KIND OF WINNING A LITTLE BIT, TRYING
TO FIGURE LIFE OUT.
SO THIS SEASON IS REALLY RESONATING WITH A LOT OF PEOPLE.
>> James: I'M GOING TO MISS IT WHEN IT ENDS.