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did you know Star Trek movies have operated under a strange curse that goes all the way
back to Star Trek the motion picture in 1979 by the mid-1980s fans began pointing out a pattern
regarding big screen Enterprise Adventures only the even number films were any good legendary
film critic Roger Ebert made open reference to it after Star Trek VI the Undiscovered Country
and even Jonathan Frakes was joking about the pattern prior to directing Star Trek
insurrection which is an odd numbered film which very few people liked Lock and Load so when the
Kelvin timeline reboot movies were launched in 2009 even though it was an odd numbered film it
became a critical and Commercial hit the curse was broken but when Star Trek Into Darkness came out
an even-numbered movie it was heavily criticized as a derivative retelling of the Wrath of Khan
but Khan was off and the plot was convoluted so when the odd-numbered Star Trek Beyond
came out to positive reviews that more embraced the feeling of the original Star Trek series it
would seem that the curse didn't end with the rebooted films it merely inverted them that's
what I was born into now one in three were good and two was bad if four is also bad would it
confirm the curse never stopped only change the rules sort of like Spock's red matter device
rebooted the franchise has the curse also been rebooted and does this mean Star Trek 4 is doomed
so many weird noises on for anyone following the ridiculous story of Star Trek 4 it may prove the
curse true way before it hits the big screen if it hits the big screen our Star Trek movies
cursed and does Star Trek 4 prove it what we've uncovered is convincing so you don't want to miss
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are we getting a Star Trek 4 well up until very recently the answer was absolutely yes but in a
matter of about 30 days Star Trek 4 has lost its director had a cast Whose schedules were
difficult to coordinate in a script that failed to impress Paramount as a result the Untitled Star
Trek 4 movie that JJ Abrams in the studio proudly announced would hit theaters December 22nd 2023
was summarily removed from Paramount's release schedule but this isn't the first sign of trouble
for the fourth iteration of the rebooted Star Trek movies this alone could constitute a curse
but the truth of the matter is that Star Trek 4 has been the target of ill will mumbo-jumbo for
a long time now the fourth appearance of Chris Pine Zachary Quinto and Carl Urban as Kirk Spock
and McCoy was originally in development way back in 2015 before the third movie Star Trek
Beyond had even begun filming yeah hey I mean I think JJ did an awesome phenomenal job of uh
in June Paramount completed last minute contract renegotiations with the main cast members giving
the actors pay raises while signing Chris Pine and Zachary Quinto to return for a fourth film as Kirk
and Spock things were going so well for Star Trek 4 that a week before Beyond would hit theaters in
2016 JJ Abrams revealed that the next movie would see Chris Hemsworth reprise the role of George
Kirk James Kirk's father from the first movie three days later the studio made the official
announcement that included the return of Hemsworth Pine and most of the cast from Beyond with Abrams
producing JD Payne and Patrick McKay who you now know as the showrunners for the rings of power
were hired to write the screenplay for the fourth movie after having small nominal roles doing Star
Trek Beyond while Payne and McKay worked on a script Beyond hit theaters to positive reviews
but the positive reviews would not reflect money earned after Into Darkness earned 467
million dollars the studio had high expectations for Beyond when it came in at 343 million on a
185 million dollar budget the studio took a pause The Confident Hemsworth Pine connection already
promised for a fourth film was going to come in at a heavy price Hemsworth was now a worldwide
Superstar as Thor in the Marvel Cinematic Universe and neither Pine nor the rest of
the crew were going to be cheap Pine was also a superstar in his own right not to mention Karl
Urban Zoe Saldana and Simon Pegg were highly in demand imagine trying to cast someone other
than Zachary Quinto as Spock even though no one was talking about it Star Trek 4 was going to be
expensive and box office earnings were heading in the wrong direction Payne and McKay were furiously
writing their script when out of nowhere the last director anyone would consider for a Star Trek
movie through his hat in the ring before we reveal the legendary director who you never thought would
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let's hope this doesn't get messy energize two months after Star Trek Beyond finished filming
in December 2015 Quentin Tarantino expressed interest in making a Star Trek film during
a guest appearance on the Nerdist podcast fast forward to September 2017. it's been more than
a year that Payne and McKay have been working on the script with no director attached Star Trek 4
momentum felt like it was slowing down a clip of Tarantino's Star Trek discussion from 2015
shows up on YouTube and the studio reaches out to Tarantino who agreed to a meeting the story
that is told today is that Tarantino Trek was in addition to the script Payne and McKay were riding
Star Trek was considering doing multiple movies at the same time it's reported but screenwriter
Mark L Smith who was working on that script with Tarantino divulged that Quentin was having a lot
of fun with Chris Pine's Kirk while possible it seems highly unlikely that a studio with money
concerns making one movie would suddenly be in love with the idea of making a second movie at
the same time it's more likely Paramount was biting their time to see how things would shake
out nothing was happening with Star Trek 4 when Tarantino came into the picture and then when
fans were on the fence with whether an R-rated Tarantino Star Trek film would be something
they wanted to watch the studio seemed to stall again and in April 2018 SJ Clarkson was hired to
direct the pain in McKay script Tarantino news died down and instead it was about the first
woman to direct a Star Trek movie keep going girl or you go girl keep working on that then
as conversation about who would direct turned into conversation about when they would direct
it a-listers and how much money they wanted to get paid was suddenly in the spotlight it was rumored
that Pine wanted 10 million dollars to reprise his role as Captain Kirk which is significantly
more than the six million dollars he was paid for the first film it was indicated that both
Pine and Hemsworth wanted money promised to them from before Beyond was released but a change in
leadership asked them to take pay cuts following the less than expected earnings of the movie so
less than four months after hiring a director the two Chris's walked from Star Trek IV as a result
of the salary disagreement the studio indicated it was going to continue without pine and Hemsworth
but they and the fans knew it would have been worthless to do another Star Trek movie with
the rest of the TOs characters and not Kirk Clarkson deciding she wasn't going to wait
around to see if the studio would ever get their act together walked away five months
later in January 2019. the studio would spend the next nine months spinning their Star Trek
Wheels before hiring Noah Hawley award-winning creator of the FX series Fargo to write and
direct Star Trek 4 in November 2019. while the studio didn't want to call it a do-over that's
exactly what it was it was noted that Holly's plot would be different from Payne and McKay as
well as Tarantino but it would still be a sequel to Star Trek Beyond with the characters and actors
who had been in those roles before but only two months later Hawley reported that calling the
film Star Trek 4 was a misnomer and reports that the Beyond cast was returning was not necessarily
correct he said that he approached Paramount with his own vision for the franchise and it
was going to be different from previous films and would likely involve new characters at that time
Tarantino also confirmed that he was not going to direct a Star Trek film immediately after
that Paramount confirmed they were only developing the one Star Trek film that Holly was working on
Holly was working on the film in May when the covid pandemic sent the world into shutdowns
in July Robert Salin the producer of Star Trek 2 the Wrath of Khan revealed that he had a concept
for a new Star Trek film that he was writing that would be unlike anything done in Star Trek before
he discussed it with Paramount but the studio said they wouldn't consider any other projects until
they saw Holly's script A month later Holly's Star Trek 4 was put on hold by new Paramount Pictures
president Emma Watts who wanted to figure out what direction they wanted to go with the franchise it
was later confirmed that hawley's script featured new characters and that his screenplay also
reportedly featured a deadly virus plot that would have not likely been received well considering the
pandemic talk about a curse what are the odds hawley's script would be about a pandemic and
then actually have one break out with Holly's script on hold Watts began considering two other
options for Star Trek IV a new attempt at a sequel to Beyond or a new film that Revisited Tarantino's
story idea but with a new director Tarantino had wanted to do a movie expanding on the original
series episode a piece of the action where the crew visits a planet with an Earth-like 1920s
gangster culture it was suggested that whatever the next film was it would need to emphasize
boosting overseas gross numbers highlighting the Studio's priorities for Star Trek 4 to be a huge
worldwide box office movie and as if there weren't enough ideas already floating around also in 2020
Wrath of Khan director Nicholas Meyer detailed a proposal for a new Star Trek project that was not
connected to any of the previous films and was set in a gap in the Star Trek timeline where an
original story could be told with new characters by November 2020 holly trek was over in March 2021
Paramount set Star Trek Discovery writer Kalinda Vasquez to write the script for Star Trek 4 based
on her own idea with JJ Abrams Bad Robot producing a month later Paramount scheduled an Untitled Star
Trek film for release on June 9 2023 but there was no happy ending for this project either as
only four months later Paramount hired Wanda Vision director Matt shackman to direct the
next Star Trek movie with a screenplay written by beer and Geneva Robertson dwart shackman's
film was set for that June 9 2023 date and he said everything was moving at warp speed and
for filming to start in mid-2022 although no deals with any actors had been set yet during
this time and despite the fact that they had hired a lot of people to write scripts Paramount decided
to do market research and discovered there was a lasting audience enthusiasm for fans to see
Pine Quinto and the rest of the cast back on the bridge of the Enterprise as a result and before
Consulting with the actors about it Paramount Pictures CEO and JJ Abrams announced in February
2022 that Star Trek 4 is not only happening with director Matt shackman but the original
crew would be back and the movie would Now launch December 22nd 2023 although and not surprisingly
the actors had not heard anything about being in the new movie before the announcement
they were nonetheless excited about the opportunity yes definitely way ahead of
you some actors rightly indicated that this isn't the first time that they've heard the
movie was on but they were looking forward to it actually finally happening I don't
even recall where we ended up and forget what we said about beers and Geneva Robertson Duart
and their script because Josh Friedman and Cameron Squires were vigorously rewriting
it by the beginning of 2022 with variety reporting that Pine would make a whopping
13 million dollars on the film everything looked to be going well then in August this
year shackman left Star Trek to direct Marvel's new Fantastic Four movie Under rumors that the
studio wasn't happy with the script and they were having difficulty coordinating all of the
actors busy shooting schedules as of the time of this video Star Trek 4 is off the books with the
studio saying the movie is still a major priority for them sound familiar after five directors 11
scriptwriters five or six known Scripps Star Trek 4 is literally defining what it means to be cursed
it would appear that the rebooted Star Trek films have rebooted the curse and even numbers appear
to be at risk of course that is if they can even make a fourth installment let alone a sixth or
an eighth the truth of the matter is that Star Trek 4 is a mess and the culprit appears to be
a studio who is looking for a script that will deliver a billion dollar overseas payday when
they should probably just be focusing on making a great Star Trek movie that Star Trek fans will pay
to go see but don't take it from us Chris Pine said it best in a recent interview I've always
thought that Star Trek should operate in the zone that is smaller you know it's not a Marvel appeal
it's like let's make the movie for the people that love this group of people that love this
story that love Star Trek let's make it for them did you hear that Paramount let's make
a movie for Star Trek fans what do you think are the Star Trek movies cursed if not do you think
Star Trek 4 is do you want Star Trek 4 made or is it time to do something else if if you want to see
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