( APPLAUSE ) WELCOME BACK EVERYBODY.
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, YOU KNOW MY NEXT GUEST FROM "GLOW," "THE
SHE'S NOW WRITTEN A NEW BOOK HUNT" AND "GASLIT." OF
ESSAYS, "ALL THE WOMEN IN MY BRAIN."
PLEASE WELCOME BACK TO "THE LATE SHOW," BETTY GILPIN!
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HELLO! >> Stephen: HI.
>> HI. >> Stephen: GOOD TO SEE YOU
AGAIN. >> GOOD TO SEE YOU.
I'M SO SORRY ABOUT YOUR TONGUE, BY THE WAY.
THOUGHTS AND PRAYERS. >> Stephen: THANKS VERY MUCH.
WHAT YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT IS-- >> I KNOW.
>> Stephen: YOUR TONGUE. >> WHEN YOU DO A LONG RUN OF A
PLAY AND YOU HAVE TIME ENOUGH TO GO ON AUTOPILOT IN YOUR BRAIN
BECAUSE YOU KNOW THE LINES SO WELL AND YOU START TO THINK
ABOUT THINGS LIKE YOUR TONGUE OR WHAT YOUR HANDS ARE DOING, AND
THEN YOUR HANDS ARE DOING BAHS. IT'S BAD.
I'M SO SORRY. >> Stephen: I WILL NOW BE
THINKING ABOUT THAT THIS ENTIRE INTERVIEW.
>> I'M SORRY. >> Stephen: BETTY.
>> IF WE BOTH DO IT, IT'S NORMAL.
>> Stephen: IT'S SO NICE TO SEE YOU AGAIN.
YOU HAVEN'T BEEN ON FOR YEARS. WE HAVE COVID IN BETWEEN.
WRITE YOU A NOTE BUT I NEVER I ASKED FOR YOUR EMAIL TO DID.
>> YOU NEVER DID, AND I WAITED FOR IT.
>> Stephen: DID YOU KNOW I ASKED FOR YOUR EMAIL?
I WAS LIKE, "COMPLIMENTS >> I DID. COMING
ANY DAY NOW." AND IT NEVER CAME.
>> Stephen: OR A COMPLAINT. >> YOU'RE RIGHT.
>> Stephen: YOU WERE SO GREAT IN "GASLIT."
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> Stephen: WHICH WAS ON
STARZ. >> YEAH.
>> Stephen: AND EVERYBODY WAS GREAT IN THAT, BUT YOU WERE SO
GREAT AS MODEAN, JOHN DEAN'S GIRLFRIEND, FIANCE, WIFE.
AND IT WAS A VERY INTERESTING, MOTIVATING INFLUENTIAL FIGURE IN
WATERGATE. >> TOTALLY.
I FEEL LIKE THAT ROLE FOR ME IS SORT OF A PERFECT PICTURE OF THE
PROGRESS THAT THE ROLE OF WIFE OF MAN DOING SOMETHING
IMPORTANT, LIKE, 10 YEARS AGO, I'VE PLAYED THAT FOR A LONG
TIME. THAT'S HOW I PAY MY BILLS IS
PLAYING WIFE OF MAN DOING SOMETHING IMPORTANT.
AND 10 YEARS AGO, MY LINES AS THAT WIFE WERE ALWAYS SOMETHING
LIKE, "HOW WAS WORK? SOUNDS CONFUSING."
AND NOW MY LINES ARE, "HOW WAS WORK?
SOUNDS STUPID. OF I GET TO BE SMART NOW.
>> Stephen: YOU'RE NOW DOING A SHOW THAT YOU'RE CURRENTLY
SHOOTING. YOU PROBABLY CAN'T TELL ME
ANYTHING ABOUT IT, OTHER THAN THE FACT THEY ALREADY KNOW THAT
YOU'RE PLAYING A NUN IT. >> YES.
>> Stephen: WHO IS FIGHTING AN ALL-POWERFUL ARTIFICIAL
INTELLIGENCE. IS THAT TRUE?
>> AM I... I DON'T-- YEAH, I THINK ALL I
CAN SAY IS I'M A NUN WHO RUNS AND CRIES AND FALLS AND LAUGHS
AND SMILES. YOU KNOW, A NUN.
YEAH. IN A WOOL HABIT, AND WE'RE
FILMING IN THE DESERT, AND IT'S, LIKE, 112 DEGREES RIGHT NOW.
>> Stephen: THE FULL WIMPLE. >> FULL WIMPLE.
AND I LIVE IN NEW YORK AND HAD MY COSTUME FITTING IN THE
SPRING. AND I SAID, WOOL SOUNDS LIKE A
GREAT IDEA. AND IN THE DESERT, I THOUGHT
THIS IS A TERRIBLE IDEA. >> Stephen: DO YOU KNOW WHAT
KIND OF NUN YOU'RE PLAYING? A SISTER OF CHARITY OR SOMETHING
>> A CARMELITE NUN I THINK LIKE THAT? IT'S
BASED ON. >> Stephen: OH, YEAH.
>> AND I ZOOMED WITH SOME NUNS WHO WERE LOVELY.
THEY WERE GREAT. >> Stephen: THERE AREN'T A LOT
OF NUNS LEFT. >> NO, I KNOW.
THE NUNS-- I ALWAYS HAD KIND OF A HORROR MOVIE IDEA OF WHAT A
NUN WAS, AND THEY ARE ALL SO NICE.
>> Stephen: THEY GENERALLY ARE.
>> I DON'T KNOW, THEY ALL IT'S A ROUGHLY LIFE. SEALED
COOL. >> Stephen: BRIDES THE CHRIST.
>> OH, SURE, YEAH. >> Stephen: YOU'RE TECHNICALLY
ONCE AGAIN THE WIFE OF A VERY POWERFUL MAN DOING SOMETHING
IMPORTANT. ( APPLAUSE )
VERY GOOD. >> Stephen: OKAY, NOW, YOU
DID-- YOU DID SOMETHING OVER COVID THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE HAD
PROJECTS, YOU HAD A BIG PROJECT, YOU HAD A BABY.
>> I DID. >> Stephen: CONGRATULATIONS.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> Stephen: WHEN DID SAID BABY
>> SAID BABY ARRIVED NOVEMBER ARB RIFE? OF
2020. SO IT REALLY --
>> Stephen: SO THAT-- >> YES, REALLY THE HEART OF
QUARANTINE WAS SPENT PREGNANT. AND DURING QUARANTINE TIMES I
DID A LOT OF ZOOM AUDITIONS SO GOT TO SORT OF CHOOSE THE
FRAMING OF MY AUDITIONS, LIKE, I AUDITIONED FOR "SHE HULK" AND MY
AUDITION TAPE WAS LIKE THIS. AND THEY ASKED FOR A FULL BODY
AND I WAS LIKE YOU HAVE TO SLATE. TURN
TO THAT SIDE AND TURN TO THAT SIDE.
IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE. >> Stephen: YOU ALSO WORKED ON
THIS OTHER LITTLE BABY HERE, A BOOK, "ALL THE WOMEN IN MY
BRAIN." >> YEAH.
>> Stephen: WHO ARE THESE WOMEN, BETTY GILPIN?
>> SO I-- THE BOOK IS SORT OF HALF-PERSONAL ESSAYS MEMOIR,
COMMENTARY, I WOULD SAY, AND HALF COMEDIC SOCIAL SORT OF A LOVE
ENTERTAINMENT BUSINESS AND LETTER AND ROAST OF THE BEING
AN ACTOR. AND ONE OF THE MYRIAD OF
TALKING ABOUT HOW MY BRAIN IS METAPHOR THEY SAY USE IS A ROOM
FULL OF WOMEN WHO KIND OF TAKE TURNS AT THE WHEEL, DEPENDING ON
THE SITUATION. >> Stephen: IS THAT WHO YOU
HAVE TO BE IN A SITUATION, OR, LIKE, SORT OF LIKE THE
ACTRESS WHEN YOU GO INTO A EXPECTATION OF YOU AS AN ROOM?
I THINK WE ALL FEEL SORT OF >> YEAH. LIKE
CYCLED CELLS DEPENDING WHO WE NEED TO BE IN THAT MOMENT.
>> Stephen: SURE. >> SOME OF MINE ARE-- "SORRY,
WHY DID I SAY THAT?" OR, "I DON'T WANT TO BE HERE,
OR "I WANT TO LIGHT A BODEGA I'M VERY TIRED." ON
FIRE JUST TO FEEL SOMETHING." >> Stephen: YOU ALSO TALK
ABOUT SOME OF THE VAGARIES-- THEY ALL SEEM FINE.
>> YEAH, THEY ARE FINE. >> Stephen: YOU ALSO TALK
ABOUT THE VAGARIES OF BEING AN ACTRESS, THE STRESS, SOMETIMES
THE HUMILIATION OF AUDITIONS. >> SURE.
>> Stephen: THE SELF-DOUBT AND THOSE SORT OF THINGS.
BUT YOU ALSO TALK ABOUT THE PROBLEM OF PROMOTING.
>> YES. >> Stephen: AND THE CHALLENGE
LIKE BEING ON THIS SHOW AND OF DOING THINGS LIKE THIS, PROMOTING
THE THING IN WHICH YOU SAY THAT. >> YEAH, YEAH.
>> Stephen: WHAT IS HARD ABOUT THIS FOR YOU?
AND IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, THIS A FEW YEARS AGO, WAS THE FIRST
LATE-NIGHT TALK SHOW YOU WENT ON.
>> YES. >> Stephen: DID WE SCAR YOU?
DID SOMETHING GO WRONG? >> NO, I THINK THE MORE YOU
COTHE MORE SCARY THEY ARE. THE MORE YOU STARTING TO THINK
ABOUT THE TONGUE FILLING YOUR MOUTH, THE MORE TIME YOU HAVE TO
GET IN YOUR HEAD. I AM FASCINATE BIDE ACTRESS ON
YOU HAVE TO FIND THIS BALANCE TLK SHOW. OF
BEING BOTH GIRLS IN HIGH SCHOOL, THE FLAWLESS, UNATTAINABLE
CHEERLEADER FANTASY PERSON WHO DOESN'T EXIST IN REAL LIFE, AND
THE INTROVERTED WALL FLOWER WHO IS "AW SHUCKS" IN THE CORNER AND
YOU HAVE TO BE BOTH PEOPLE AT ONCE.
>> Stephen: HOW DO YOU THINK THIS IS GOING SO FAR?
HOW MUCH OF EACH ONE AM I GETTING?
>> THE SMOKE AND MIRRORS ARE TRYING TO CHECK THE CHEERLEADER
BOX, AND THE SLEEVES ARE KIND OF LIKE "DEAR JOURNAL," KIND OF
TRYING TO DO THAT. >> Stephen: I THINK IT'S GOING
GREAT. I THINK IT'S GOING GREAT
( APPLAUSE ). PLEASE, TELL ME.
>> Stephen: AS A PRO, DO YOU WANT TO BREAK DOWN HOW IT'S
GOING. THE CONVERSATION FLOW IS GOING
GREAT. CAN I GIVE YOU A NOTE ON YOUR
ENTRANCE. >> PLEASE.
>> Stephen: NO ONE THINKS MUCH ABOUT THIS.
YOU HAD A GREAT ENTRANCE. IT WAS PERFECTLY LOVELY.
YOU SEEMED VERY NATURAL, "HEY, HOW'S IT GOING," NICE HUG.
THIS IS NOT A SLIGHT IN ANY WAY. >> CAREFUL, CAREFUL...
>> Stephen: I DO WANT TO SAY THAT YOU WALKED ON LIKE A TV
STAR. >> OH, AND NOT A MOVIE STAR.
>> Stephen: AND NOT A MOVIE STAR.
>> WOW, THAT HURTS. >> Stephen: SEE THE
DIFFERENCE? >> OKAY.
>> Stephen: A TV STAR DOES THIS.
A TV STAR COMES ON LIKE THIS. COMES ON AND GOES, "HEY, HI,
HOW'S IT GOING. HEY, EVERYBODY."
AND SITS DOWN, LIKE YOU DID. PERFECTLY LOVELY.
MOVIE STAR DOES THIS... >> RIGHT.
OF ( LAUGHTER )
( APPLAUSE ) YEAH.
RIGHT. ( APPLAUSE )
WOW. RIGHT.
LIKE, IT'S THEIR SHOW. >> Stephen: WELL, THEY'RE--
HOW PLEASANT FOR THE AUDIENCE WHAT AN HONOR. TO
BE ABLE TO SEE THEM. >> RIGHT.
YEAH. >> Stephen: AND YOU DON'T WANT
TO ROB-- WOULD YOU LIKE TO-- WOULD YOU LIKE TO TRY TO
>> NO, I DON'T WANT TO DO RE-ENTER? THAT.
BECAUSE... >> Stephen: I'M CUTTING THIS
>> BECAUSE I THINK THE OUT. ENTRANCE
ESPECIALLY-- OKAY, WE'RE IN IS THE SCARIEST PART. THIS
WEIRD TIME WHERE WE'RE PRETENDING IT'S 2053, BUT IT'S
I'M STILL WEARING SHOES WHERE ACTUALLY STILL 1952. I
HAVE TO SEIZE MY CALVES INTO A SEIZURE TO BE TRADED FOR GOATS
TO A LAND OWNER. LIKE, IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.
THE SHOES DON'T MAKE SENSE. WHY ARE WOMEN-- WHY ARE WE STILL
WEARING THESE SHOES, I'M #PART OF THE PROBLEM.
BUT I DON'T WANT TO DO THAT I'M CONTRIBUTING TO IT. WALK
AGAIN. NO.
>> Stephen: ( APPLAUSE ).
ALL "ALL THE WOMEN IN MY FOR YOU. BRAIN"
IS AVAILABLE NOW. BETTY GILPIN, EVERYBODY.
WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK. ♪ ♪ ♪