WELCOME BACK, FOLKS.
MY FIRST GUEST TONIGHT IS BEST KNOWN FOR HIS 13 SEASONS ON
NCIS.
HE NOW STARS AS DR. JASON BULL ON CBS'S NEW "BULL."
WELCOME BACK, MICHAEL WEATHERLY!
( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ) ♪
YOU SIT DOWN FIRST.
YOU'RE THE GUEST.
THANK YOU.
( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ) THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
>> NICE TO SEE YOU.
>> Stephen: THANK YOU FOR RUBBING YOUR ASS ON MY DESK.
SO FEW OF MY GUESTS -- >> THERE'S NO TOILET PAPER IN
YOUR DRESSING ROOM AND CRISSY HEINZ IS CAUSING A RUCKUS AND
CARRIE FISHER IS RUNNING AROUND LIKE A NUT JOB.
>> Stephen: CARRIE FISHER IS HERE WITH HER DOG.
>> IT IS SO CRAZY THERE BACKSTAGE.
>> Stephen: CHESTERFIELD KING GIRLS AND THEIR CIGARETTE BOXES
AND EVERYTHING.
>> EVERYONE'S TRYING ON YOUR TRIANGLE TRUMP HAD.
IT'S GONE CRAZY BACK THERE.
>> Stephen: WELCOME BACK, BULL.
15 MILLION PEOPLE, LO?
THEM'S IS RATINGS.
>> I PROBABLY COULD HAVE BETTER THINK B AT IT.
DENOSEO FOR 13 YEARS PEOPLE YELLED THE DENOSEO!
WHICH IS FINE, BUT WHEN PEOPLE IN TRAFFIC RANDOMLY GO, "BULL"!
( LAUGHTER ) I MEAN, I DIDN'T ANTICIPATE IT
WOULD FEEL LIKE AN ACCUSATION, MY NAME.
>> Stephen: WELL, THERE'S PASSION BEHIND IT.
>> YEAH, "BULL"!
YEAH, THAT'S ME, THANK YOU.
>> Stephen: THE SHOW ITSELF, THE PREMISE IS YOU'RE SOMEBODY
WHO HELPS YOUR PSYCHOLOGIST PUT TOGETHER JURIYS, RIGHT?
>> YOU'RE GOING TO TRY TO EXPLAIN THE SHOW?
>> Stephen: WE'LL TAKE IT AWAY FOR ME IN A MOMENT.
YOU HELP TO PUT TOGETHER JURIES FOR LAWYERS?
>> YES.
>> Stephen: IN THE SERVICE OF JUSTICE OR --
>> WE LIVE IN INTERESTING TIMES.
CERTAIN MORAL AMBIGUITIES ARE FASCINATING.
SO ON THE SHOW "BULL"!
( LAUGHTER ) WHAT WE DO IS WE TRY TO FIGURE
OUT, WHEN YOU'RE DOING A -- SELECTING A JURY, WE TRY TO
FIGURE OUT WHY DOES A PERSON HAVE A CERTAIN SET OF BELIEFS
THAT ANOTHER PERSON, SAY, HAS A COUNTER, CONTRARY SET OF BELIEFS
AND, BOY, HOW DO WE GET THOSE TWO PEOPLE TO HAVE THE SAME
PERSON THAT THEY VOTE FOR?
>> Stephen: DR. PHIL STARTED HIS CAREER DOING THIS.
>> HE HAD A COMPANY CALLED C.S.I. BEFORE THERE WAS A SHOW
C.S.I. AND HE LOOKED INTO COURT SCIENCES, AND THAT'S REALLY A
REMARKABLE THING.
LIKE THE O.J. TRIAL HAPPENED ABOUT 20-SOMETHING YEARS AGO,
BUT THEN THEY DID THE DOCUMENTARY LAST SUMMER AND IT
WAS FASCINATING.
YOU LOOK HOW THE JURY WAS SELECTED AND RATHER THAN SANTA
MONICA THEY WERE IN DOWNTOWN LOS ANGELES AND HOW THAT
AFFECTED THE OUTCOME OF THE TRIAL.
>> Stephen: SO IS YOUR CHARACTER'S GOAL TO HAVE JUST AS
EFFECTIVE JUSTICE AS WAS IN EVIDENCE IN THE O.J. TRIAL?
( LAUGHTER ) IN OTHER WORDS, DOES IT MATTER
TO YOUR CHARACTER -- DOES IT MATTER TO THE SHOW WHETHER THE
PERSON IS INNOCENT OR NOT OR JUST IF YOU WIN?
>> YES, OF COURSE.
WHAT WE'RE REALLY DOING IS WE'RE HELPING PEOPLE WHO CAN'T HELP
THEMSELVES AND WHO NEED THAT EXTRA LEG UP WHEN THE LAW GETS
TRICKY.
>> Stephen: AND YOUR CHARACTER DOES IT FOR FREE?
>> SOMETIMES.
>> Stephen: WELL, OBVIOUSLY, HE DOESN'T NEED THE MONEY, HE'S
GOT A TV SHOW.
>> YEAH!
>> Stephen: HE'S DR. PHIL.
HE'S DR. PHIL!
( LAUGHTER ) >> Stephen: DOES THE FINAL
EPISODE END UP WITH YOU BEING BALD AN ON AN EPISODE?
THE SUPERHERO THAT IS DR. PHIL.
MM-HMM.
BITTEN BY A RADIOACTIVE OPRAH AND --
( LAUGHTER ) >> YOU'VE JUST BLOWN MY MIND!
>> Stephen: YEAH.
WE'VE GOT A CLIP HERE.
THIS IS A CLIP OF YOU DOING WHAT BULL DOES, MAN.
JIM?
>> WE MOVE TO STRIKE THIS JUROR.
DON'T SMILE.
YOU CAN'T SMILE.
YOU DIDN'T JUST WIN THE LOTTERY, YOU STRUCK A JUROR.
YOU GIVE ANYTHING AWAY, THE PROSECUTION ARE CATCH ON.
SO JUST SHOW ME.
BUT DON'T LOOK NERVOUS.
SHOW ME YOUR NEUTRAL FACE.
THAT'S MORE SAD CLOWN.
WE'LL WORK ON THIS.
DON'T THINK ABOUT IT.
>> OH, BOY.
( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ) >> I'M JUST TRYING TO HELP THE
PEOPLE.
>> Stephen: TRYING TO HELP PEOPLE.
WELL, YOU KNOW IT'S A GOOD SHOW BECAUSE IT SEEMS TO HAVE THE
MOST SCREENS PER CAST MEMBER OF ANY SHOW.
WHY ARE THERE SO MANY SCREENS?
WHY ARE THERE SO MANY SCREENS IN AREHEAD SCREENS CHEAPER THAN
SHEETROCK NOW?
( LAUGHTER ) >> HERE'S WHAT HAPPENS, SOMEBODY
MUST HAVE DONE SOME FOCUS TESTING AT SOME POINT AND THEY
DEDUCED SCREENS PEOPLE LIKE, RIGHT?
>> Stephen: EXCELLENT.
I HEARD IF YOU PUT MAPS ON A SCREEN, PEOPLE REALLY LIKE IT.
LOOK AT THAT!
SEE?
THEY LIKE IT.
>> Stephen: THAT'S NOT A MAP.
IT'S NOT?
>> Stephen: THAT'S A PHOTOGRAPH.
THAT'S A PHOTOGRAPH OF CENTRAL PARK.
>> OH, GOSH!
I'M SORRY.
>> Stephen: REMIND ME NEVER TO GO CAMPING WITH YOU.
( LAUGHTER ) ONE OF YOUR CAST MEMBERS,
CHRISTOPHER JACKSON, WAS THE ORIGINAL GEORGE WASHINGTON IN
"HAMILTON."
>> OH, YES ( APPLAUSE )
>> Stephen: HAVE YOU TALKED TO HIM AT ALL ABOUT HIS REACTION TO
THIS MIKE PENCE "HAMILTON" THING?
>> YEAH, I TALKED TO CHRIS LAST NIGHT AND WE WORKED EARLY THIS
MORNING.
IT WAS ABOUT 28 DEGREES WITH THE WIND CHILL FACTOR.
SO WE HAD A VERY COLD CONVERSATION ABOUT IT.
SO I WAS TOTALLY WEIRD, THE MIKE PENCE THING?
HE'S LIKE, YEAH, ITS A LITTLE WEIRD BUT IT'S FREEDOM AND
YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO BE ABLE TO SAY WHAT YOU THINK AND THE
THEATER IS A SAFE PLACE BUT IT'S ALSO THE SAFE PLACE TO SAY WHAT
YOU THINK, CAN QUESTION GO GET IN THE CAR NOW AND GET WARM?
>> Stephen: THAT'S HOW GOOD OF AN ACTOR YOU ARE.
( APPLAUSE ) MICHAEL WEATHERLY, GOOD TO SEE
YOU.
"BULL" AIRS TUESDAYS AT 9:00 ON CBS!
WE'LL BE BACK WITH CARRIE FISHER!