welcome to 60 days inside around dan abrams coming up next
we're more than halfway through the second phase of the program at the clark county jail
our participants have already seen their share of trouble
right here is that what you ended up cherie is now taking bigger risks to uncover contraband and
corruption dion's becoming more unstable ryan's been moved to a new pod to protect the program
and a sewer line break is threatening to push the inmates into chaos
company i'm here with sheriff jamie noel captain scottie maples and phase one participants
tammy and zach let's talk about cherie uh she has taken some big risks in this episode
they're so high and they start just getting violent and crazy don't put your finger on
my forehead dogs little ashley she's physically aggressive she's even exchanged some words with
mona lisa i can say whatever i want to say not to me though writing this no i was hoping that maybe
they'll come in and find some drugs and maybe they'll get rid of some of these people tammy good
or bad decision personally i wouldn't have done it if those girls found out that you that you flew
that kite and you've got nobody to back you you you're looking at something very volatile that's
some information that i would have saved for the captain and the sheriff upon my exit interview
sheriff what is a kite a lot of times that's where information is passed either from inmate to inmate
or in this case from an inmate to an officer and the kite is i hope it flies as far as i can
but another inmate doesn't be able to retrieve it out from underneath that door so while you want
this information this is not necessarily the way you want to get it exactly that's all we said be
a good witness don't take any notes don't write anything down we'll get it all in the debris for
when we watch the actual footage there's very few reasons you would slide a note under the
door especially being a corrections officer she should have known better and she also put two
other participants at risk at that time because they were all banded together at this point in his
well mona lisa distances herself sure well i'm not with that i don't have a clue what you're doing
what happens if people find out that someone sent a kite how bad is it if inmate puts together
that you know something assert rate happens afterwards or someone's pulled out of that section
or an investigation it's pretty detrimental to him because there's usually repercussions of that it
could be violence or it could be a stern talking to so there's a second raid of the compound now
doesn't find any any contraband
is that frustrating sheriff it is it's frustrating anytime you do a search and
you don't come up with anything but think of all the innovative ways that inmates high contraband
and i look over and one of the girls put something inside of that coffee cup and i'm like oh holy
and there are a lot of creative ways stuff right so many different i mean there are so
many different ways people fall into heights i mean you've got 24 hours a day seven days a
week to sit around and think about where you can hide something and you can create new ways to
hide something that nobody's ever even thought of before when you were in there they wouldn't they
were sneaking the contraband underneath the trees the trees we start we started honing down on that
now it's coming in through the laundry right they just adapt and we have to adapt also in this last
episode we saw dion and ryan being moved into new pods sheriff why are inmates typically moved out
of one pot into another you know generally it's it's because there's an issue with an inmate in
there but in this particular case ryan was becoming too close to inmate-like room yeah
there's all sorts of clothes we cleaned out the properties before
i got one of my cell phones i found that so you can just call it right get set get
it all set up yeah there's a room that's accessed outside i'm kind of at a conflict
here i know that you guys have a job to do but i also kind of have an honor code myself
did you feel that ryan was too close to shane garza i think that was ryan's survival mode that
he was going to get as close as he could to an inmate and uh i think he was losing touch of where
he was at in the program and what we was there to do so to change it we moved him to a different pod
it's a very tough line to walk and i think ryan just got a little too comfortable with that line
you're consumed i mean it's 24 7. you're trying to assume a particular role there's rules that you
have to follow in there it's easy to criticize ryan but also i asked him to go in there
and not blow his cover and he did a pretty good job of that i just think maybe he's taken a little
bit too far why did you feel the need to move dion once we see you get into a daily routine
uh and you figured out some information why not utilize you in another section
i noticed like in this pod people watching you 24 7. it's kind of creepy because it's like everybody
is just facing you and stuff and they worried about what you got or what type of person you are
it's affecting me and like it's not making me be myself 100 taking the d-pad he had to
figure everything else out again because it's two totally different atmospheres
we are just past the halfway mark in sheriff knowles program and the phase two participants
are still struggling to settle in especially after a surprise pod switch for the male participants
so ryan gets into cpod and almost immediately sets up a trading commissary effectively a store
i realized that running a store gained you some sort of respect
and can give me an insight that i won't get anywhere else
i started talking to alex and i started just kind of asking questions
and i learned all of his faults and flaws
if i were to run a store i could move up the ranks make a lot of money gain a lot of influence and i
could literally start making some huge moves in jail breaking the rules sometimes it pays
it's worth it and it's really not that big a deal you specifically told all the participants right
in the training i watched it do not start getting into the trading game exactly because it's always
a problem it never goes smoothly and then it jeopardizes his participation in the program
money has no value in jail but things do whether it's things be a food tray whether it be a soup
whether it be a candy bar so he was using that to personally benefit to stockpile but he said
he was always being fair right someone if someone was going to give him too much he'd give him back
the problem is they get one soup today their interest is two soups tomorrow as smart as ryan
uh may think he is you could have a master's degree in real life but when you go to jail
that doesn't mean anything it's a whole different education so everyone agrees this was not
a good move even if nothing bad comes of it it's still by its very nature a bad move
this doesn't benefit us at all no it's this is why we told you not to do this this we don't need
to know how the trade of commissary goes but he would say that he was able to get more information
because you got to know more people right hey when you open a store you got a storefront you
get to meet a lot more people we don't even know two soups equals one nutty bar yeah yeah all right
a big issue that affects everyone in this latest episode was this sewer line break
i don't know whoa
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tammy seeing what you've seen would you have stayed here's the thing if you're an enemy
you can't say you know oh i'm gonna go home now and that's the experience that i knew that i was
getting into and of course i would have stayed so there wasn't anything that was gonna make me leave
real quick sheriff are you concerned that this could lead some of these participants to tap out
tensions are already high in jail period it's just one more thing added into this horrid situation
where you have the sewage coming up like a forced mane and tammy you worried about ryan's store
oh ryan yes very much so he's going down the wrong path
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