Hello folks, Kirk and Jason here with Kirk Giordano Plastering.
Today I want to show you guys how to use a veneer finish we're gonna basically put a 1/16 of an inch
or less a little more sometimes depending on the thickness and then we're gonna finish it
with a veneer why veneer because veneer is made with limestone you put one part gypsum plaster
and you put two parts lime check this out guys on my last video I showed how to do this I mean who
wants to walk around you'll be walking around at say art wine fair or something else imagine going
to say, Burning Man, you're walking around people and saying, how you do that man, I learned how to do this
when I was on a ship. I was watching these guys spin plates and I said that is theoretically
impossible. I don't care how great your skill level is, because I'm a Nun Chucks expert, with
my hands and with tools and I couldn't do it. I thought they must have drilled holes anyway I
showed how to do this in my last video you want to know how to do it. piece of cake guys I mean you I
showed exactly how to do that I could put a nail like put anything anyway guys I'll quit messing
around, I'll show you what we're gonna do here we are going to use the veneer of base coat first why
a base coat guys okay let me show you something oh this particular material here this is a base coat
now a base coat for veneer plaster is usually here in the states you go with USG you go with diamond
finishes or you'll go with Keens or you'll go with diamond sister product which is Imperial used in
hospitals and schools, Diamond lime, it has more fat, I like to play with it, but right now this is a base
coat and the base coat so if I were to go take him out here guys you know it'd take me three trips it
would take three trips but with the base coat here all I'm going to do is it was put it on I
would start the bottom now this base coat is a lot stronger than say tape and mud and I explained it
a second ago why because this base coat has sand in it and it hat well it has crushed lime where'd
you get the lime from the the quarries or the the mines you break it down and you put usually
two parts lime for every one part gypsum and mix them together and you got this stuff here now can
you just use a base coat you can but it'll give a sandy finish can you just use say the plaster
because I'm gonna plaster right over this in about about say 10 to 15 minutes I'm gonna put another
coat well let me change that in case you guys are watching in about half-hour I'll put on another coat
on and this right here is basically just so the next coat does not bubble because the people who
say hey Kirk can I just do a coat of veneer finish? yes, and no if you're very good you could
if you're not very good you should do this, even if you're very good I recommend you do this
anyway, because it's a lot stronger, guys I know we're in a society where everybody's in a hurry
you got to get done fast they'll have no time for waiting, but if you skip this process here guys you
skip some of the strength, I don't I mean some jobs you don't have to worry about the strength
and you guys watch me plaster, how do you always use a swimming pool trowel, well the swimming pool
trowel is not really a swimming pool trowel, it is technically but I've said this many times
guys when I was Union, I cut I take a skill saw with a masonry blade or metal blade, I cut this
and I just leave the arcs so I liked it better it's straight on the top not it's not a complete
radius but anyway I still use it guys now here's a joint here's a paint joint here's a plaster joint
so we fill the plaster joint and there's a paint joint for paint joint you can allow the finished
product to do that and the finished product again is just lime guys it's lime and gypsum there is no
sand in it this has sand and the sand is for structural strength, When we were Union that just means
we worked with a whole bunch of people and out of the hall they used to have eighty-pound bags we'd
be carrying these big old bags, as big as uh eighty pounds because for hospitals and schools they
didn't allow for any other stuff but I'll show you when we, I'm not gonna do this whole thing on film
but for the sake of those who say man I want to do one coat I'll explain something because I can
meaning okay say for example what's this base coat drives right here and I get ready to do the finish
coat I can show you do to finish coat just over this is straight because all these cabinets right
here the fellow who owns the kitchen over the the house he said, "Kirk, don't worry about this wall
at all, you can do just over the vent and this" and I said why is that? well, he said, I'm selling
the house. I said, Man, that's a scary attitude I tell you what I'm going to do I'm gonna do the whole
thing anyway man I'm just not right leaving this like it is so when we come back I'm gonna show
you how we finish over this it's nothing guys this beats the heck out of say taping mud
because one trip you see that didn't take me long it's all on film and it's it's so much harder it's
monolithic, I mean that's concrete solid durable like rock marble, I mean, it's solid, so you can't
push thumbtacks through this and plus with the lime in it it's more resistant to all the cooking
the steam and all of that in a kitchen we're in a kitchen anyway we'll show you that in a minute all
right guys I'm waiting for paint to dry actually I'm waiting for that to dry I've got another ten
minutes or so we covered the windows so they've got no air going on people to say, "gee whiz that trowel
is too big" to get in small spots, okay you see this we got corners we got all kinds of junk I
can get in small spots with it for the folks who say man that that giant trowel, is just not working
bull it all depends on the applicator guys because I could use a big trowel, a tiny midget trowel, I mean
I could use the spatula or the taping mud knife that all the tapers used to that's nothing this
material spreads so well that you could use any any tool, I could put use my big this is an 18
inch trial and I also have a 20 that I like to use for interiors, I could use that 20 also because you
just you just got to ankle the trowel guys, angle it and move that mud, see as I move my hand I hate
what I want with the mud in the direction I want it right here where it's lower we just
fill it over here where we're going behind things we start here to use the end or the toe and fill it
up then go this side to the cornerback get that out of there boom now because I'm out of mud, I'll
grab some mud and show you how we get even this this little stuff out of the way, okay guys tight
spot with a Congo trowel, there's a tight spot but if you know how to handle the mud it's not so bad
and right here guys as a rule base coat Diamond finishes they're supposed to go say a sixteenth
of an inch three thirty-seconds but have I gone a quarter-inch yes, have I gone a whole inch, yes, that
patch over there it was about an inch thick, I just hit it and it will be dry and it will be hard and it's
an inch thick, so there are rules with this stuff, but those rules are when you're working professionally
on jobs for schools, hospitals, and stuff like that you better know your specifications for
each, but for homeowners stuff like this it's not a cardinal sin if you break the rules and go
a little thicker my buddy From walls and ceilings would disagree, he'd ask "Kirk, you know you gotta
be within specification?" Specifications what's that? I'm an applicator, not an engineer.
Anyway Mark Fowler he's the specifications expert editor for walls and ceilings; I'm an applicator and I'm not working on government projects. Right now working on a homeowner project, see, how that sticks you turn it, you spin it and have not like spitting the trough you
put it there and use your hand you spin this turn your hand and push it on here
then squeeze it down and push it up and boom you got it all that ceiling we're
going to take it here and you're probably thinking well how you're going to get
that corner because your trowel doesn't have a tip good question I'll show you okay how
are we going to get that tip put this over there I'll grab my handy-dandy trowel, okay
I'm going to take some of the fat that's why I like this these materials here that the the
veneers such as Imperial it doesn't have it much fat for the or as much lime as this lime
is what makes it buttery, guys now I'm out of material so we're gonna wait on this to dry and
you'll be able to tell it'll start to lighten we're gonna start to lighten you'll know or is
it starts to darken one of those two I left this little piece here, because I want to show you the
the veneer lime finish, you can go over this as it's pretty thick so you don't need any more strength
plus it's getting covered by the tiles or by the cabinet's any way when we get back started I'll
show you that the finish alright guys we are doing the finish coat now notice it did dry a little bit
darker I think it's I said I was gonna dry uh some lighter just a exterior work dry and lighter there
anyway this is what we're doing guys and you know also I guess I'll point out right now see
right here this mud this will do that this whole thing right here that'll take another trowel but
now check this out and again by the way guys the advantages to this monolithic stuff is it's also
water-resistant and it's got no sand in it, it's strong you could paint the next day how many of
you guys can use a product that you could paint the next day how many interiors were out there none
that you could paint the next day, that is the the biggest advantage of this man, you know a lot
of guys they call me, and say, "Kirk, we're in a hurry," and I think well why didn't you call
us earlier but there's a lot of advantages to this veneer finish of course my buddy.
Mark with walls and ceilings would say, "Kirk, you're gonna show them how to go an inch thick with that too? where walls and ceiling they wrote the book on these products, they do a lot of video work
so if you want to see somebody else's work and they'll come out there they got all their
videos very professional look, not like old Kirk, saying you can go an inch thick, that's
taboo you're not supposed to go an inch thick you're supposed to go just about 1/16 to 1/8,
and you still get that monolithic hard finish you can't get that with tape and mud guys it's
just gypsum, this you got this lime in it, and so lime is incredibly strong, oh I'm gonna get
yelled at the homeowner, Andy Davis, man, enough how'd you know I was here, oh you saw my truck, yeah
you brought the whole crew take a look at these guys to take a look oh so chef Seth Richardson
Father and son, yeah, it is. This is Andy Davis of Davis plastering. He's the best
guy I know doing almost anything except for me. I've been teaching him stuff,
man, I got a couple minutes, and I'm gonna this muds getting hard man getting hard,
that's good to see you guys, man, I take it you're working close by,
Yeah, you ever confused me like that on video again. You're out getting
ready to go out there and move my truck. okay guys, anyway once you finish this up
Andy yeah yeah now this finish here this is smooth am I gonna finish everything right now no because
this mud is getting hard but I just want to leave it at that plus I want to stop and talk with my
buddy for a minute but I will say this guy when you get it to this stage here now again this is
really really strong much stronger five ten times stronger than tape in mind because tape in mud is
just gypsum this has got lime in it so the lime gives it that monolithic strength there
you go you let that set I'll tell you something here's the key to a lot of this stuff the back in the
day we used to when we did white coating they'd call it "White Coating," we'd have a $60 brush and you were a
punk if you didn't have a $60 brush but today I'll tell you I like to get these little dollar brushes
that I have somewhere okay a dollar brush these little dollar brushes you throw them away the
next day after you use them you just use them like a paintbrush get your corners with the edge get
your inner corners right here right here and that little corner there that'll do it I said I was
going to show you how to do this oh my goodness okay that's stuff that's gone that's okay but
we're just doing a quick thing here now because oh that's hard because this wall here is going
to get covered with cabinets I'll just show it their guys that's stiff mud this gets hard quick
So anything you guys say well, gee whiz, I just want to do one coat or you guys put
in the UK that say Kirk you bloody wanker, you waste time we do that with Kal coat one coat,
but we don't have Kal coat here guys we're in the u.s. anyway that's a goner but if you're
gonna do one solid coat put it on don't over trowel it, like what I'll do is like this right
here and again cabinets are gonna go over this so but even if it works I'm still gonna make
it pretty, we do like so you let it try a little bit then you take a water brush or a bottle or
a Hudson sprayer you hose it you missed it then you take a trowel and you just go back over and
get all the cat faces out and make it smooth like a baby's butt guys anyway, my name is Kirk,
Jason on the camera what uh we thank you for watching it we'll see you guys at the next one.
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