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so I'm just gonna start this off
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All right, so this is the Kinefinity Mavo LF.
Word on the street is this is the Red killer.
Is that true?
Is this completely gonna wipe Red off the face
of this earth?
(screaching)
What did that was my whole review.
I was just like
(screaches)
thanks for watching.
Don't forget to subscribe (laughs).
Now I've been testing this camera for the last couple weeks.
I've filmed around here and LA with it and also took it
to Hawaii and I'm still up in the air about it.
There's things I like about it and also some things I don't.
My very first opinion about this camera was like wow,
it's very small, definitely smaller than the Red camera.
Let me show you.
You know actually it may not be a huge huge difference.
Did this Red shrink on me?
I swear it wasn't this small.
See one of the things I was gonna talk about is like
I love the size of the Mavo LF I love how compact it is.
I guess it's not that different (laughs).
Now it is definitely smaller and lighter,
it has this extra back on here.
I imagine if you pop this off, it'd be a lot smaller.
But I guess that's like most cinema cameras now,
they start off small and then the more you rig it out
the bigger more gigantic it becomes.
Well the next thing I noticed is how awesome it is
to have these different lens mounts.
Now this is an EF mount and this is a PL mount and I love
that you can kind of just swap them out
without any sort of tools.
So you just lock that in there like that
and secure it down tool less, that's awesome.
There's also one with a electronic ND filtering here,
so you can dial in your ND.
It's pretty cool actually.
And same goes with the EF mount right you have your EF mount
and then also the one with the ND filter
and there now we're on an EF mount for my Canon glass.
So piece of cake, I like that but this is were kind
of ran into my first little complaint,
the way you mountain the EF lenses, I am not a fan of.
Now to mountain an EF lens onto a Red,
it's very similar to attaching it on
to any other mirror less camera or DSLR.
You align the Red dots, right?
And then you turn it, it clicks in there,
and it's still a little bit loose,
so there's a locking ring right here, which tightens
that lens onto the camera body.
It feels really good, and that's
how the ARRI Alexa Mini also does it.
But this you actually don't rotate, so you take that Red dot
and you line it up there and then you rotate this ring.
Oh, and actually that time I got it in there pretty good.
It sounds like a pretty good method too right?
But half the time I'm kind of struggling to get this lens
to mount because first of all, you got to get it
to see in there perfectly and then you can't rotate it
which it will in both directions,
if I turn it at all or give it any pressure it's gonna kind
of move and I don't think that's really good
for kind of these mounting contact points here.
And sometimes when I'm rotating this ring,
it turns the lens with it.
See like that's what it's doing right now it kind
of wants to turn the lens with it.
So I feel like I'm kind of playing this weird little game
where I'm trying to hold that lens there perfectly
and rotating the lens without accidentally,
see there the lens rotated again
so that's screwed up I gotta hold that lens super steady,
and turn it and lock it in there.
This is something that can be changed
by just redesigning these mounts.
It's not really an issue with the camera itself
but my user experience with this mount was kind of (beep).
And now we are ready to shoot.
Now first impressions on image quality was wow it is sharp.
It's no doubt it is a good clean image coming out of there.
Now everyone keeps comparing this camera to a Red camera.
But I honestly don't think its main competitor
is going to be Red.
I think its main competitor is going
to be more like the new cameras that are being announced
that's large format or full frame
like the Canon C500 Mark II
or the Sony something something nine
all right let me look this up the FX9.
$11,000 is what the Sony FX9 is going to cost
so I think the FX9 is really the camera
that this is gonna have to compete with.
Now they both have full frame 6K sensors,
the Kinefinity does have an advantage of having kind
of more frame rate options cause the Sony
is gonna give you 4K at 60 frames per second
and HD at 120 frames per second.
The Kinefinity is gonna have a little bit more punch.
So at 6K HD we're gonna get 58 frames per second
but if we crop off the top and bottom, go wide,
we're gonna get 75 frames per second.
As we crop into the smaller part of the sensor,
likes the Super 35 area looks like we could get no 4K
at 112 frames per second or again if we crop off the top
and bottom we could get up to 150 frames per second.
Really cropping into the sensor here at super 16
but that will give us 290 frames per second in HD wide
so that's less than full HD but still that's pretty cool.
Now looking at the pricing for this Mavo LF,
we're looking at about 12,000 bucks for the body.
And I think this is the pro-pack because this does come
with the KineBACK-W, so it has these dual XLR ports.
Oh we're looking at about 15 grand for this camera.
So it's not really a cheap camera.
It's honestly not too far from the C500 Mark II,
which is $16,000.
I mean this is why I have such mixed opinions
about this camera.
It's a nice looking image out of a good powerful camera
but Kinefinity, I haven't really heard about them much.
Looks like you're gonna have to order it off the website
if you want it.
$15,000 I mean the results you can get out
of this camera no doubt impressive,
but putting it towards like a website where there's a bunch
of test footages Mavo test footages.
Dark Knight, you probably remove
that S its test footage, right?
Why though, cause footage is plural, right?
Like you look at multiple footage.
So why isn't it footages?
(soft music)
English is a weird language man.
I feel like I'd be more inclined to buy this camera,
if either the price was lower
or they had a little bit more of a reputation.
I mean, they're just still such a young company you know,
like no one really wants to pay for reputation.
You know, you don't wanna pay more money
for something if it just does the same thing.
It's like you have like $15,000 to go
and buy yourself a car right?
What car should I get?
There's like the Toyota Corolla, Honda Civic, Ford Focus,
you know, like all the name brand ones.
But then another mystery car appears and you've never heard
of that name before, but the promise you more power,
more fuel efficiency.
And the spec sheet is just better.
Would you go for that car company?
I think some people do, and some people go,
oh, well, I'm familiar with Chevy car.
So I'm gonna stick to that for those types of people
that are willing to take that risk.
You know, I think this actually kind
of makes sense cause if you really want your dollar
to stretch as far as possible.
Like this has pretty impressive specs.
It's not like Kinefinity has no reputation you know,
they've built a couple cameras in the past and they've
for the most part seem like they've been well received.
But as I'm using this camera,
it does feel like I am using an early version of a camera,
one that hasn't gone through
as many revisions and refinements.
For example, they also gave me this larger monitor
to test out so awesome, I'm down with that.
I plug it in, turn it on,
and with a more established company that's been
through many revisions, it just works, things just
plug it in, it turns on it worked.
But with this camera wasn't really working,
their response was the seven inch can only work
at 60 frames per second, you have
to put the video output to 60.
So then you have to go into your configurations
and why I can't do that because I can't see the screen.
So I'm gonna switch back to the older monitor,
where I can see things clearly.
I'm gonna go into my configurations gotta switch that over
to 60, see it works now and it's a good monitor.
The image coming out of this camera is good but you see
that little finessing that it took to get this monitor
to work, cause I wanted to take this monitor over
to Hawaii right and I was packing very late last minute
and I was gonna pack this but I realized it wasn't working
and I didn't have time to sit down and read the manual
because I was in such a rush.
Now there are some unique things to this camera
like this drive right, if I throw
that on here pretty much any other camera,
it automatically just reads the card and starts recording
but here it says, "need activate."
And when I first turned on the camera I saw that blinking
and I was like I don't really know what that means.
How come I can't record.
Do I have to activate the camera, do what?
Apparently I have to activate this SSD
and now it's activated so now I can start recording.
Most cameras kind of do that all automatically.
The display itself is pretty nice, you get
all your different settings right there in front of you.
But on something like a Red if you wanted
to let's say change the ISO you'd tap the screen
and dial that in but you can't really do that here
and honestly it was a little bit frustrating trying
to figure out this camera without a manual.
As far as the buttons and the layout
and what each button does, it's not super intuitive.
So you kind of have to play with it a little bit
and kind of learn what each button does.
So I'm not sure how to play back a clip.
Usually playing back a clip is pretty
oh, I found it, okay.
Okay, see this, it's a tool It's like kind
of like a setup tool icon.
That's how you play the clip, so I got it to work.
There's a little bit of finessing with it to get it to work.
But once you learn it,
I'm sure it's gonna be very straightforward.
Now one tip if you get this camera,
most of my frustrations just came
from not really understanding how to operate it.
I kind of just thought I could because I've used
so many cameras before and most of the cameras
are pretty similar in how you operate them,
but this just felt little bit different.
So if you just spend the time to read the manual
before you start using it.
You should be in much better shape.
I do feel like if this was your camera
and you really really learned it,
you can really get some awesome awesome stuff out of it.
Is it a Red killer?
Not yet, maybe One day.
If you wanted a full frame cinema camera you know you had
to either get the ARRI Alexa LF
or the Red Monstro Vista Vision right?
Both crazy expensive cameras and it seemed like this was one
of the first to hit the market where you have cinema quality
on full frame for you know not not $50,000
but now they do have some pretty intense competition
from Sony and Canon as well, so I'll be curious
to see how they proceed next.
Oh finally the battery died on me,
I haven't recharged this battery since Hawaii
that means 120 watt-hour battery.
So it's not like a huge powerful battery
but this has powered this camera for very long
so this must be fairly low in consumption.
So I love that I feel very comfortable going out
with you know just this one battery
and plan on shooting quite a bit.
What is that a slot for?
It looks like a slot for some sort
of media like a solid state drive or something.
I think I'm gonna have to look this up.
That's for something called a Dark Tower wireless video pack
which is actually kind of cool cause, you know usually
for our cameras, we have
to mount the Teradek wireless video transmitter
to receive wireless video, but it looks like you
just drop this one in and you don't have to worry
about cables and all that mess.
So that's actually kind of cool.
Another thing I like about the camera is
that it has three microphone methods.
So it has a built-in microphone probably,
you know, just for reference, but at least you can sync it
with audio a little bit easier if you're using that method
or you could just plug it into a 3.5 millimeter jack
or those dual phantom powered XLR ports.
I was also very impressed
with the low light capabilities at 3200.
We filmed at the beach and
that came out looking pretty decent,
but it has a dual native ISO at 800 and also 5120.
Now 5120, I only got one test shot with it
and it looked pretty good.
So having that high native ISO is pretty awesome.
I would love to do more testing
with just low light one day, but also one more complaint
and this is if you're using electronic EF lenses
as you dial the f-stop, there's a lag.
Every time you turn it it's lag, you turn it and lag,
turn it lag, like on this camera, I could just adjust.
I know exactly where I'm at, it's very responsive
and right there, but on the Kinefinity, it's kind
of like, turn it and you might overshoot it,
you might under do it and you just kind of tune it.
It takes like seven seconds to find your exposure opposed
to the two seconds it should take again possibly
that's something that they could fix in a firmware update
maybe who knows, but that's just my two cents
on this camera definitely very powerful,
the image pretty awesome, but it does generally feel like
it's still rough around the edges.
This thing kind of moves.
I feel like if I were to press it too hard
it'll crack (laughs).
They did also tell me that they're working
on getting their cameras
onto the major retail stores like B&H.
No official date on that just yet,
but I'm gonna keep an eye out.
I'm really curious to see what their next couple generations
of cameras are gonna look like.
Anyways, should we read a few comments?
Notice how every time he says awesome,
it's like aaaawesome, what?
Is that, do I say awesome weird ?
Apparently (laughs) 58 people like that comment so I guess.
Billy Jeff in response to my video
that I shot on the ARRI Alexa Mini LF in 4.5K.
He says, "I'm watching on 480P."
Why do I even try.
It's so weird making YouTube videos on like 6K, 8K
and then it's just like 480P (laughs)
Jelly or Geli says, "fake people attract
"other fake people you and Peter McKinnon
"would make a great couple,
"a couple of fake ass human beings."
You think Peter and I will make a good couple?
Next video why I switched from Kerri to Arri (laughs).
Matt 222 says, "dancing women eats fire
"and is completely fine.
"Me eat food from the microwave" (laughs)
"and can't handle the heat."
I feel your pain.
Oh wait totally almost forgot,
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I wish I could give away the Kinefinity camera
but they won't even let me keep it.
You know what we've given away two
of these Mavic Minis so far.
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