just in the larva stage alone there's five instars so an instar is the actual molting of these
exocetin as the larva grows you're going to have to be able to get the another product that to do
the same function or similar functions so that you can keep growing in line with your values
with microbiology so anyone that doesn't know poly means many and saccharides is sugars right
so many sugars and that's what what we're looking at so as i was digging in uh in my research kaido
stand has found to be a really good chelator especially with with metals and other things so
as that plant's immune system is turning on and being activated by the the kite and the cytosine
these bugs and these pests ability to to penetrate the the plants just becomes really hard as we dive
in more and more to all these products i realized how much people still do not know
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2586 photos 274 videos 21 files 1 106 shared links and much much more so dave insect frass are the
3-1-1 with from down to earth please tell us all about it i mean this was incredibly interesting
conversation with adam which we're gonna have a couple snippets at the end but dave please
uh definitely yeah definitely we're going into part six the power of insect brass this is one
of those guys continue your research uh science is still discovering they're doing you know research
and why insect frass and what it contains in it is so powerful so let's dive into it so what is
insect frass made of um so the down to earth insect press is made up of the excoseltons and
the feces of the black soldier fly and the reason that they're using the black soldier
fight as you can see from these these pictures they they go through a lot of food process
they get their insect frass from sustainable farming and they use food waste that would
normally go uh to the dump so we're once again we're recycling um what could go to the dump and
to turning it into something that we can use for our plants so the larva consume the organic matter
then this creates the feces that are rich in micronutrients and then it goes through a
processing phase where it's screened heat treated and then ground up so you have the exoskeletons
and also the feces of the black soldier fly so if we dive into the black soldier phi we can see that
they lay anywhere from 300 to 600 eggs and then it goes into the larva stage and just in the larva
stage alone there's five instars so an instar is the actual molting of these exocelleton as
the larva grows and then they'll go into its pupil stage which there is a sixth in star and then back
to its pupil to becoming an adult to laying other eggs i know what you guys are probably thinking
like these little bugs look like maggots you know we were used to try keeping all of our
plants clean and our grow room clean and we've switched from soil to to soilless medias because
we want everything sterile and so more often than not instead of frass is definitely one of those
products that once you become familiar with what it is initially it might it might turn you off but
you got to think about it does back wanna turn you off right does crab meal turn you off these
products come from natural environments that do very specific things that react to your
plant because they they've been designed to work together and so i just want you guys to know that
as we go into the future and and other products begin to you you won't be able to get hold of
these products like crabio or or maybe kelp might be unavailable for a little bit you're going to
have to be able to get the another product that to do the same function or similar functions so that
you can keep growing in line with your values with microbiology yeah good point and and they also
use soldier flies too because uh unlike our house fly like these are nectar eating they're actually
considered pollinators so they're they won't harm your plants as well if you know if you if you
wanted to compost let's say and start something like this like start your own uh black soldier
fly compost and start putting your food scraps and stuff like that you don't need to worry about
an adverse effect of them getting out and eating your plants so food for thought so what is chitin
we talk about it a lot it's in the industry a lot people are talking about its benefits so let's
dive into it it's the second most abundant polymer next to celluco so it says a lot so nature builds
up all these different ways to to keep structure um we can see the cellulose diagram right here
it's lots of chains all connected together and these chains could be broken and things could
be added to them and changed so uh chitin is a polymer which is composed of modified glucose
uh monomers uh both chitin and kyoto sane are natural polysaccharides polysaccharides are the
most abundant carbohydrate found in the food whose molecules consist of a number of sugar molecules
bonded together so guys just i always i kind of like to help everyone understand a little bit
of language so anyone that doesn't know poly means many and saccharides is sugars right so
many sugars and that's what what we're looking at is just many sugar molecules bonded together
and that's what kaiten is um chitin is also uh present in the in fungus and the fungal cell walls
this is what makes up the structure of the fungi and as we stated exoskeletons of arthropods and
insects these chitin fragments could be recognized as a stress signal by the plant cells and inflict
uh defense reactions so this is where we talk about titan kind of being a biostimulant um and
also in the pest control now these manufacturers not gonna label it as an insecticide because they
can't do that but science shows that there's a secondary metabolism responses that the plant has
when chitin is in present of the plants so if we're talking about chitin we gotta go into
kaido sand so kind of sand comes from the enzymes breaking down chitin and this can be done by man
and or natural process so no matter what chitin is going to be broken down by nature and be recycled
and reused but there are processes where man you know typical you take a high ph alkaline product
and you end up with something left over after that process but in this case this is just the pure
insect frass so nature is going to be breaking this down so this is what research has shown kind
of sand to do and this is why i say continue your research and studies and publish papers because
there are a lot of studies on all spectrums of of pest resistance fungal sides bacteria and we're
going to go through some of these right now so it's shown to increase photosynthesis and i kind
of questioned this i was reading how it could increase photosynthesis and i was like but why
so as i was digging in in my research kaido sand has found to be a really good chelator
especially with with metals and other things so if it's chelating and bringing up other things with
it then it makes sense that the plant's more efficient it could photosynthesize that much more
one study i was i was reading about green peppers and they found that it actually helped decrease
the transportation and helps strengthen and support the stenoma opening and closing so going
into the sonoma remember these are the little mounts underneath the leaves that are opening
and closing allowing moisture to come out or vice versa closing to keep the moisture in um one study
i read found that it uh increased and helped with the frost resistance so they had i think
it was like uh i think it was beets or something and a lot of leaves were still affected but this
the part that had the kita sane on it was way less affected by that frost it was pretty the pictures
were pretty impressive and increases the systemic response for pest control and i think a lot of our
viewers are going to really like this because we're naturally bringing in products into our
house like different types of soils and stuff that are potentially you know root nets um spider mites
and stuff like this that you know we're trying to do the right thing and at the same time we're
potentially introducing something else that we have to counter to create that healthy plant
so as that plant's immune system is turning on and being activated by the the chitin the cytosine
these bugs and these pests ability to to penetrate the the plants just becomes really
hard very interesting on that one yeah it really is um it's shown to help kill bad fungi and what
science is showing is that the the kaido stand is actually connects with the fungal receptors on the
leaf so it actually is like tricking the plant to think that it has a fungus that is on its leaf so
it starts amping up its natural immunity creating pretty much like its own fungicide same thing with
bacterial and viral infections um and it helps the soils from leaching and it goes back to me i was
like okay why is it preventing it from leaching because of the physical matter but then i was
every was remembering that it's really good at chelating so it's going to hold on to those
other minerals as well quick graph right here you guys can read uh right here it says right
here soil improve improve soil properties prevent nutrient leaching increase crop yields and quality
so this is all stuff that scientists are looking at observing testing and trying to
find these mechanisms and why the plants responding the way it does as we dive in
more and more to all these products i realize how much people still do not know about our biology
even down to theory is still theoretical it's like they're theorizing on the stars and the
theorizing in a biology in our soil it's insane we're still guessing yeah i mean and that's why i
say we have to all continue our own research read articles and share it with the communities because
it's it's changing the more and more people are going to be starting to use products like
this with chitin and kaido sand more questions come up to surface and more tests need to be
performed but there's a lot of people um willing to do that so this is kind of the flow of chitin
and what i'm finding is that chitin it needs to be broken down for the systemic secondary metabolites
and stuff to be activated in the plant so chitin is abundant remember it's the second most
abundant polymer in the earth and then that gets turned into kaido sand and then catalytic
organisms uh bacterial microbes that can eat this once again scientists are trying to find like
there are specific ones that we know but we're trying to find different ones that we can also
produce in mass to help with this process and then it goes into titus uh keita says
and then that's when the plant can uptake that so when the plant is uptaking the catastrophes
it's it's activating those systemic responses to the plant it has an abundance of this material
in it and it's like what is weight what is going on is this bugs is this what is going on so it
starts amping up all these different secondary metabolisms just creating a very very healthy
plant you know when we were talking to adam law earlier just describing it might just sound
obvious to everyone but for me it didn't sound it it was a small aha moment right you have the indo
and x go exto fungi and like you said the chitin makes up the the cellular walls of the fungus
and bacteria is on everything that like i like adam kind of just pointed out and so you have
this fungi that's growing on the outside of the roots but also the ones that penetrate the cell
roots right the endos and just like getting a splinter for ourselves right um it's this it's
the same in my mind it's the same situation it's like they penetrate those roots it creates trauma
which introduces uh parasitic forms of some level and then the the plant creates its own with its
own immune system basically does what needs to do yeah well there that you know there's there's
studies i was watching too they sprayed kite sand on and like two days later they came out this is
a big agricultural field and like all the the grasshoppers were dead and they couldn't figure
out why they're like well it's because of the kite stand they're like well did the kite stand was it
the plant's response or could they because they couldn't eat they all died like there's a lot of
things that we're still learning about it but we know that it amps up its metabolism and and
so much more it's so interesting yeah it really was all right so we're going into the guaranteed
analysts and application rates um so it is a three one one three percent nitrogen uh one percent of
that being water soluble two insoluble and one percent available phosphate and one percent potash
so drive once we said insect fresh uh applications um one to two tablespoons per gallon of soil
mixed early um you can also pre-amend it if you if you would like to as well until the chitin
gets broken down and those components that we showed in the earlier slide we don't know when
it's going to be available so when is that chitin is going to activate in the plant's response so
maybe get it in there ahead of time especially if you have soils that you found fungus gnats
and you're like ah what do i do now you know this might be a way to to help you i think that was a
great point right there just bringing up again is if recycling your soil if you had fungus snacks
don't just throw away your soil just amend it and keep going with it don't throw your money away
i know that might sound totally crazy but it's i think it's definitely worth if you're
out there and you have a lot of soil it might be a couple hundreds a couple thousand dollars in it
do a test just do get one get a couple plants put it to the side amend it and see if you have
fungus the next time around yeah dave thank you so much for this presentation man every
single time i jump on a call with you i learn so much from all your research
it is a byproduct of the black soldier fly larvae industry which is primarily grown for feed
and pet food markets they take out you know omegas and protein and oils
and this is just the waste product it's the uh it's the poop and it is the exoskeletons of the
different instars of the larva as they grow so um and then it is dried and and shipped out but this
would otherwise just be a waste of uh protein generation um historically the house i'm at
right now i don't have one but historically i would walk out there and i would hear
right and um i i'd look in there and the whole top is just writhing it's incredible and you know
there this is a soft information because it's been a while since i read it but what they've shown
is that food material processed by black soldier fly larva tends to have lower incidents of e coli
and other pathogens they go through things incredibly quickly someone who i work with her
partner was the compost specialist for the city and they were testing black soldier fly larva
at home and one of their chickens died and they were like well let's just toss it in and so they
tossed the whole chicken into the pile and like a day later there was no more chicken
it's amazing a's is usually the sign of an or that sign of like a digestive enzyme or something it's
something that breaks something down right like like i think there's glutenase is an enzyme that
breaks down gluten for example but uh so you're saying that it so you're saying it would go to
chitin and then to uh the caipitinolis organism and then that one and then the last one is the
kite tin sing um that is potential i would need to check into that it may be that kitenase breaks
down both forms starts the initial breakdown and then the further breakdown as well right um
and and that would be you know bacteria and fungi that break down chitin plants have developed a
reaction to finding titan in their environment and the reason they did that is because they learned
that it's a sign of being attacked and so you know what is the exact mechanism by which they
sense it you know does it happen when the fungus penetrates the root or does it happen when they
just find some one of these secondary byproducts like kaiosan in the environment that that'd be my
guess is that they they have some sort of receptor that understands what kaido san is and um and so
yes it's very possible and this is all i'm going to say is it's very possible and i think it's
still being determined that yeah you know things they're either sensing it directly or they're
sensing it because of something like you said that some sort of bacteria or other organism that eats
the chitin is breaking it down and they're sensing the exudates from it but you know you look online
and you see these studies about this the chitin is the cellular structure of the fungus and it
attaches itself or penetrates the root system then in a sense it's chitin is in the root system now
like a parasite in a sense you know because it's it's like uh it's like you gain a splinter right
and it's and and pus crates in an inflammation to try to get it out of your skin and it's
really just kind of had a haha moment right there yeah and what we and what we're unclear of is
and maybe it's both is does the plant sense it because it got the splinter
and its tissue is like hey it's there or does the plant like smell it you know outside of it
we just don't there there may be information out there but if you look up
studies on chitin effects on plants they just roll you know there's a lot of them
to me the best way of describing a biostimulant is is to move it away
from calling it a fertilizer because in in large practice you are using minute amounts
of this product and seeing a larger response