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hey guys this is new sensei when it
comes to recommending bows for beginners
or intermediate shooters it's often hard
to find ratings and reviews for a lot of
models there are so many different
brands and models and most people don't
review them you'll find tens of
thousands reviews for the Samick sage
but you won't find much else for sn4
Hoidal with a win so you tend to soon
because they cost a lot of money and
people use them there must be good to an
extent that is true but you still want
to have some of that subjectivity to
understand how the both skills and
handles now from what I've seen on the
Internet a partner Samick sage as far as
target bows go the most frequently
recommended bow I see a list on reddit
is the SF forge plus and in general
sebastien flute or SS bows are
frequently recommended most because they
tend to be in the budget range and the
forge plus is on the high end of that
budget ranks I mean this is like the
most top l'herbe of my club I've got
like four or five people with this
particular model it's so easy to get a
lot of dealers will stock it so what
does a bow like a forge Plus offer the
forge Plus is the top end of the
intermediate SF Rises including the
axiom and the premium the forge is made
from forged aluminium and so for around
three hundred US dollars apart from the
glossy black color I have here the forge
plus also comes in glossy red blue
silver sky-blue and matte gray the forge
plus normally comes with a black grip
though the one I have here has a wooden
grip
Plus has a distinct look with its
contours and the frame feels very sturdy
though perhaps less stylish then the
winner wind rises of note is the weight
of the riser as it is made from
aluminium or aluminum for Americans it
does feel heavier in the hand compared
to carbon risers this isn't a bad thing
as a heavier riser to make it easier for
beginners and intermediates to keep the
bow steady
the grip on the forge Plus feels
comparatively small the entire riser is
actually quite narrow which is
surprising because of the heavier feel
the group itself is comfortable enough
especially if you have a smaller hand
the energy xp for comparison has a
slightly thicker throat and a wider base
which gives more surface area for the
hair to wrap around and more support for
the part and some the forge plus being
more narrow offers less support but this
isn't a huge problem though experienced
shooters can be very picky about the way
it sits in the hand
as an iOS target bug it comes with the
standard mount and bushings for
stabilizers including top and bottom
mount as well as sight plunger and
clicker the SS bows come with their own
arrow rest and plunger button the rest
on this particular boat is not the SF
wrist which is a standard middle
magnetic wrist the plunger however is
the SF standard it's actually a pretty
decent plunger button which can put your
mind at ease if you are buying a kit
from nothing
this particular bow is set up for
standard their bow so I won't be using
anything other than this weight the
limbs I'm using are 30 pound SF elite
carbon foam limps these limbs are
reasonably priced but offer some of the
performance and speed of high in carbon
limbs compared to cheaper wooden glimpse
the fact that they are all black can be
appealing to some arches
for this set I'm using Ethernet victor
1400 errors they don't cheap carbon
arrows they come up well enough but I
know that this boat hasn't been tuned
the boat is noticeably loud but this
isn't a fault of the riser
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I'd say that the SS forged plus is the
prime example of a mid-range bow it is
more on the high end a luxury end of the
middle range it's not expensive as the
top in winning win or high two models
but it still has all the functionality
and the look and feel of a good high
performance both in terms of handling
the right couple of small nuances I that
I noticed the first thing is weight
distribution as appear to do winner win
in Oh 60 which the typical high-end bow
the rate of the inner CST tend to be
centered on the group itself so this
center part of a riser is to have this
part so you can generally feel a lot
more comfort holding it here and for
that reason you tend to feel a bit more
feedback so you know when they shot
isn't quite right I prepared to that the
forge Plus has a somewhat more equal
weight distribution on the top and
bottom of the riser so the center of the
riser with the grip is isn't really the
heaviest part so it's actually a little
easy to keep steady because there's more
weight up here and down here so if you
shouldn't bear both this is actually a
pretty good riser compared to some
high-end bows because one it feels a
little heavier to it the weight of the
balance makes it our ease of the keep on
level playing and this is more apparent
when you use a weight so if you're
shooting with bear bowls and that means
you're kind of stabilizers then having a
riser like the forge Plus it's actually
quite advantageous and imagine quite
effectively finding their bow would
gravitate towards Rises like the forge
plus if you looking for something a bit
more elegance or finesse or that light
touch then the forged Plus probably
isn't as delicate and like I said the
high-end bows tend to be a bit more
sensitive in the hands that you feel
more connection with the bone
I get very subjective but the Forge plus
feels a bit more like a workhorse rather
than the elegant speed to put it that
way so it's very sturdy it feels very
reliable and again it was not as
well-balanced as some of the high-end
bows it's certainly not a bad thing this
is a very good bow for intermediate
shooter one of the things we tend to see
with beginner or intermediate bows is
things like forgiveness because this bow
is doused in a way where you you can
keep it steady with the less accessories
or less weight there it tends to be
easier to progress with because you can
isolate problems through your formal
technique rather then not have control
of the boat again it's very subjective I
said it many times but from my feeling
of this bow it's a bit more intermediate
friendly and exploit this is often
recommend it for intermediate shooters
aesthetically it has a certain look to
it the forge Plus stands out a bit
because the other SS fires that really
have this pattern or the shape and
cutouts so obviously Ted of this madness
gives you a unique look to it I'm not a
big fan of it I prefer the smooth
contours of the Willing windows but the
Forge plus yeah looks all right
the colours are great by the way I
really do like this particular choice of
colour scheme the glossy black with the
SS elite limbs looks amazing and a lot
of people really dig the all-black look
at this is really nice I mean in front
and back the whole black or all black
limbs and all black erisa
actually makes it look quite nice so if
you're trying to make the riser and the
bow look just right to do I think the SS
board Plus has quite a few options so
yeah I think because it looks again
subjective depends of what appeals to
you this isn't that nice to me but
something made Big D curve the
industrial look so that is a factor to
consider but overall it does have to
look off a performance bow but
not at the high-end level of the budget
so in general I do agree with the
recommendation that this is a good bow
for beginner to intermediate shooters
this is a sort of boat you would buy if
you intend to stay in the sport for many
years without needing to buy another bow
or another riser in comparison by both
likely action which are very cheap feel
a lot more crude and heavy and chunkier
so again they're very cheap to also
beginner-friendly because the bow just
sit still in your hand but it doesn't
feel it's good to shoot and people often
move on fairly quickly and it's just
premiums also similar to the fourth plus
a few hundred bucks cheaper also a
decent alternative the forged positing
is like the luxury model of that kind of
line so if you want to extend your
pocket just a bit spend a bit more on a
nice bow but not bust your budget on the
very top and basically you don't know
why you wanted or you don't feel good
enough then the forge Plus is probably
the best compromise between budget
performance and the general feeling of
buying your way to win it doesn't feel
like you're buying a luxurious bow just
because you can this feels like a bow
which you deserve and you have to work
so yeah I know a lot of people have this
mentality of you don't want to buy the
best you just want to buy a good bow and
in my opinion the SF forged plus is a
good boat now there is a caveat with the
SS bows now as many of you may know SF
is owned by women win SS products are
manufactured by winning win this is no
longer the case there's been a parting
of ways and SF no longer is owned or
produced by winning win-win and we are
making their own line of budget boats
they call it W NS or winners as it's
pronounced so you may see the SS bows
disappearing so I'm not sure what the
future of SS will be I'm not sort of
they're set up their own manufacturing
whether they close it completely but you
will find that SS folks will be hard to
come by now as of this video I imagine
just still be plenty of SS both in stock
but you may find that they will start to
clear out and disappear so if you're
trying to find a bow and you can get a
bow like the SDF Forge Plus this is
going to be a good boat it's definitely
something which is worth getting for the
entry level to intermediate shooter if
you can still get it then it's a good
purchase there's nothing wrong with it
it's the go-to bow and while I've only
used to fall short while I will agree
that this is a solid recommendation for
anyone who is getting their first
Olympic style bow or choosing the
upgrade from a very cheap of the forge
Plus has the functionality of the
Olympic style bow so if you choose to
shoot freestyle or Olympic style with
the sides and stabilizers and this is
great for that it's what I should bear
birth is also very good for it and just
overall it's a good all-round though in
a way this is new sensation having fun
is helpful thanks for watching and I'll
see you next time