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STEVE: WELL, WE HAVE BEEN
TELLING YOU FOR A WHILE ABOUT
WOKE CURRICULUM CREEPING INTO
AMERICAN CLASSROOMS.
A NEW STUDY REVEALS HIGHER
EDUCATION NOT ONLY LIBERALIZES
STUDENTS BUT HARDENS THEIR
BELIEFS.
THE RESEARCH PUBLISHED BY THE
AMERICAN PSYCHOLOGICAL REVIEW
SAYS, QUOTE: WE FIND THAT
HIGHER EDUCATION OFTEN SHIFTS
MORAL CONCERNS IN A LIBERAL
DIRECTION BUT THAT FOR MOST
STUDENTS THESE CHANGES ARE
ACCOMPANIED BY A RISE IN MORAL
CERTAINTY RATHER THAN
RELATIVISM.
HERE TO REACT IS A PROFESSOR AT
POOR THE PLANNED STATE
UNIVERSITY WHO RESIGNED CLAIMING
THE SCHOOL SACRIFICED IDEAS FOR
IDEOLOGY PETER, AUTHOR OF "HOW
TO HAVE IMPOSSIBLE
CONVERSATIONS."
JOINS US RIGHT NOW FROM
PORTLAND.
PETER, GOOD MORNING TO YOU.
>> GOOD MORNING.
STEVE: SO, REGARDING THIS
RESEARCH, WHAT DO YOU THINK IS
THE HEADLINE FROM IT?
>> I THINK THE TAKE AWAY IS THAT
WHEN PEOPLE GO TO THE
UNIVERSITIES, IT’S NOT THE SAME
UNIVERSITY IT WAS EVEN FIVE OR
TEN YEARS AGO.
THESE ARE INDOCTRINATION CAMPS
AND INDOCTRINATION CAMPS INTO A
VERY SPECIFIC SET OF BELIEFS.
THE LONGER YOU ARE THERE.
THE MORE CERTAIN YOU BECOME IN
YOUR MORAL ATTITUDES.
STEVE: WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY THAT
MORE CERTAIN, ABSOLUTISTS,
RIGHT?
>> THAT’S THE TERM THE STUDY
USES THE MORE ABSOLUTIST ONE
BECOMES, THE DANGER IS THAT
PEOPLE THINK THE COLLEGES ARE
PROVIDING AND EDUCATION BUT THEY
ARE REALLY INDOCTRINATION
CENTERS.
THEY ARE INDOCTRINATION MILLS.
IT’S SOMETHING WE NEED TO BE
INCREDIBLY MINDFUL OF BECAUSE
PROFESSORS HAVE JOBS FOR LIFE.
THE WHOLE SYSTEM IS GEARED
TOWARD VALUES THAT MOST PEOPLE
RECOGNIZE AS ALIEN TO THE
FUNDAMENTAL RUDISM INTO AMERICAN
SIZZLES.
STEVE: PETER, YOU SAID I HAVE
HAD IT UP TO HERE.
I CAN’T GO ALONG WITH THIS.
YOU DIDN’T BECOME A PROFESSOR TO
BE WORKING AT INDOCTRINATION
CAMP.
HOW MANY PEOPLE WHO WORK AT THE
UNIVERSITIES ARE OF LIKE MIND
AND THINK, YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE
WAY WE SHOULD BE GOING AND HOW
MANY PEOPLE ARE LIKE YOU, LIKE,
I CAN’T BELIEVE WE ARE TEACHING
THIS CRAP?
>> YOU KNOW, IT’S WORSE THAN
CRAP THAT WAS PROBABLY THE
NICEST THING YOU CAN SAY ABOUT
IT IT’S VERY DIFFICULT TO KNOW
THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION
BECAUSE UNIVERSITIES HAVE
MANAGED TO CREATE CULTURES OF
FEAR UNDER THREAT OF CONSTANT
INVESTIGATION, BIAS RESPONSE
TEAMS, DIVERSITY, EQUITY AND
INCLUSION IT’S DIFFICULT TO KNOW
HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE TRUE
BELIEVERS AND HOW MANY PEOPLE
ARE JUST BEEN COWED INTO SILENCE
FOR A PARENT OF A CHILD WHO IS
IN COLLEGE RIGHT NOW. THEY HAVE GOT TO UNDERSTAND THE
THEY HAVE GOT TO UNDERSTAND THE DYNAMIC OF WHAT THE KID IS GOING
DYNAMIC OF WHAT THE KID IS GOING THROUGH
THROUGH UNIVERSITIES AREN’T
TRUTH-SEEKING ENTERPRISES.
THEY ARE PLACES INDOCTRINATION
FACTORIES AND INDOCTRINATION
MILLS.
WHEN THE KIDS COME IN THERE.
THEY HAVE A VERY ACTIVIST
MINDSET FOR THEM.
SO, TRUTH IS NO LONGER.
THE NORTH STAR OF THE
INSTITUTION.
IT’S SOMETHING ELSE.
IT’S HAVING THEM BELIEVE A SET
OF MORAL PROPOSITIONS AS THE
STUDY SHOWS THEY HAVE BEEN
INCREDIBLY SUCCESSFUL WITH THAT.
STEVE: CHECK OUT HIS BOOK.
IT’S CALLED HOW TO HAVE
IMPOSSIBLE CONVERSATIONS.
WE ALL HAVE THEM OCCASIONALLY
AND THAT’S A GOOD BOOK TO USE AS
A NORTH STAR ON THAT.