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- There is no Making America great again.
It implies that we wanna go back to racism.
- I disagree-
- It implies we wanna go back to having KKK out and about.
- To say like all white people think that way is wrong.
(suspenseful music)
- Hi, I am Charity.
I am a social justice advocate and a Democrat.
- My name is Michael.
I work as a fiduciary in the finance industry,
and I'm a Republican.
- My name is Hope.
I'm a political activist as well as a student,
and I am a conservative.
- Hi, I'm Josh.
I'm a writer in the film industry, and I'm a Democrat.
- My name is Christy, I'm a conservative,
and I run a dating app called Righter.
- My name is Alan Suarez.
I'm a student and political organizer, and I'm a democrat.
- [Producer] I have the same political beliefs
as my parents.
- [Hope] So, a lot of times I do get told
that I'm only a conservative because my parents are,
when in actuality they rarely talked about politics.
It wasn't until very recently that I realized,
yeah, my parents are conservative,
they really wanted my sisters and I
to be able to come to our own beliefs and whatnot.
- I do have pretty much the same views as my parents,
but I'm the first one to actually be able to vote
and be outward, politically, about my views.
Well, I come from a low-income family, my dad's disabled.
And they tried and they fought very hard
to keep me in a good school.
So, I can critically think on my own
and constantly question and challenge
my beliefs and the views of society.
- Why did you decide to lean left?
- I'd say primarily where I was,
but I did give both a chance.
- Sure, of course.
- [Alan] I read both platforms.
And I said I think I agree with more of the left
than I do with the right,
but with that being said,
of course, not one side is completely correct.
People who are in my situation, I feel for them,
and I want to be able to help them out.
And I know there's other Mexican-Americans or other people
who is gonna be their first time voting,
and I wanna make sure that they have a right path
and they know-
- Well, why do you think Republicans don't want to help?
- No Republican ever reached out to me.
- I see. - [Alan] Yeah.
I don't doubt that Republicans want to help.
I never got that opportunity.
- Yeah, we just try to help with jobs,
that's what I would say, and economic growth.
- I guess I'm the unicorn standout here
and that there's a very clear political difference
between me and my parents.
I grew up in a conservative suburb.
In my first election I voted for McCain
because I got their talking points every night
and I was told about redistribution of wealth
and that didn't seem fair to me.
But then I got older,
I started meeting people with different perspectives
and I started doing my own research.
- [Producer] My party is misrepresented by the media.
- Yeah, I think it.
- Yes.
- Everyone.
I think we could all agree that
news channels in general could basically just suck.
- There was a time
when Americans all lived in the same information space
and we could disagree but at least we were disagreeing
on the same set of facts.
- Do you guys at least accept there's a big media bias?
- On both sides, absolutely.
- For, mostly for the left though
that most of the media is in support of the left agenda.
- Melania Trump has yet to grace one cover of a magazine.
- Really?
- Well, Michelle Obama was on how many covers?
Hundred and, 190.
- Michelle Obama was much more-
- She had a name for herself, she's a lawyer.
Melania's like this is not what I signed up for.
- I do think Melania's a little bit more private
and that could be why. - Yeah.
- That's what makes sense. - Yeah.
MSNBC, CNN, NBC, even CBS, the list goes on.
- In general, more media organizations
tend to be a little bit more favorable.
- [Michael] Yeah.
- Towards the democratic position, yes.
But I think, to say the two biases are the same.
The fake news on the right is so much more blatant and-
- Oh, come on.
- You wish the left coined that phrase.
- I want to make America great again.
(footsteps approaching)
- [Christy] Take apart Democrat or Republican, right or left
America is our country,
we all live here, we're all citizens.
I don't, I laughed a little bit
when we heard the statement,
"I want to make America great again"
opposed to not make America great again.
I have no understanding or concept
of how anyone in this room
could not want our country to be great again.
- The phrase make America great again
implies that America was great to begin with
and if it was great to begin with, the question is for who?
It wasn't great for minorities,
it wasn't great for people of color
and you know, you guys sit in a position of privilege
and in a position of whiteness where you can say that
because it was always great for you, absolutely.
- Excuse me. - [Charity] But it wasn't-
- I'm sorry you don't get to speak for me,
I'm Hispanic so you don't-
- I'm talking from my experience.
- You just pointed to all of us and called us white.
- But you passed as white.
- My mother was adopted out of Guatemala
and she was an immigrant.
- Well you sit for me-
- [Christy] You do not get to point to me-
- Then it's directed to you.
- I will not sit here and be pointed at-
- Okay. - [Christy] And told,
that I am sitting in a position of white privilege.
- This isn't about you,
that's the problem with Republican-
- How was it not about me?
- It's not about you,
I'm talking in general. - Okay.
- I am talking in general. - How is that in general?
- If you let me talk-
- I would never sit in this room.
- If you lemme talk,
I would be more than glad to tell you.
- I'd love for you to clarify that-
- Can I finish?
- But you better take better care with your words.
- [Charity] Can I, don't tell me what I better do.
Thank you.
My point is, when we have a country
that was built on the backs of slavery,
the things I still feel today as a black woman,
there is no making America great again.
It implies that we wanna go back to racism,
heightened racism 'cause it still exists today-
- [Michael] I disagree. - [Christy] I disagree.
- It implies we wanna go back to,
you know, having KKK out and about.
They have a social media presence but having them-
- Yes, I know, I've been threatened by them twice, yes,
I'm on their hitlist.
- What happened recently, since Trump has been elected.
- When I hear Make America great again,
I think he's just talking about the numbers, economic growth
to say like all white people think that way is wrong.
It's just talking about how when we won World War 2,
we beat, defeated the Nazis.
We were the best country in the world at the time.
- [Alan] Yeah.
- Given the fact all the segregation in the south.
- So that's why I think it's dangerous though
'cause it's too broad.
- I just feel like even if he made it,
make America economic again, they would say,
oh, he's trying to take the minorities out
and make it more economic,
anything that you would say they would attack it.
- [Producer] We should help the underprivileged.
(footsteps approaching)
- I think it's written in our basic rights,
life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, right?
Everybody should be on the same
like level playing field, right?
Especially the underprivileged
who don't have these kinds of opportunities.
They might have grown up in an education system
that's not as good quality as certain places.
- And then do you think that's almost a disservice to them
having to go to a college where they're not almost prepared?
- Exactly. - They were given-
- That's what happened-
- When they were given though like the opportunity
because of maybe like affirmative action,
for example, where they get into that spot
and then they're like, oh, wow, I'm kind of overwhelmed.
- There's a number of factors
that we have to consider, you know,
if we're talking about schools.
First of all, we don't pay teachers enough,
so, it's not exactly attracting
the best and brightest individuals to raise our kids,
if you do great as a teacher,
the incentive is to move to a better school
with students who are already have economic advantages.
- For example, I'd want voucher systems
for underprivileged kids to go to good schools.
- What makes them underprivileged?
- I would say economic status.
- I guess my question is why aren't the parents working?
- Oh, well maybe they came from a situation
where their mother was maybe in prostitution
or something like that.
- Well a lot of kids are underprivileged
because of the socioeconomic status they come from.
The way our systems and our districts are set up.
It's, you know, keep the poor here, keep the rich here,
lack of opportunities, lack of education.
Kids that are sex trafficked are made primarily fostered-
- That's, sex trafficking is very different than-
- But it turns into- - [Christy] Underprivileged.
- But no, but it turns into adult prostitution.
That's underprivileged too.
If you're com if you're a foster youth, that's,
I was sexually exploited as a foster youth,
it wasn't, I wasn't prostituting,
but I was sexually exploited and I,
when I was incarcerated, when I was a teenager,
I was incarcerated with dozens of little girls
that were in jail for being sexually exploited by grown men.
So, even as we touch on the Me Too movement,
these are people that are getting away with, you know-
- The Me Too movement originated in Hollywood
with actresses that were paid millions of dollars
by a director. - But it's real everywhere.
- No- - It gave voice to-
- What you're talking about is very different.
- It originated there but it gave voice to everyone.
- I mean I think the Me Too movement
needed to happen a lot of ways.
- Absolutely. - Absolutely.
- When it came out, even though it happened in Hollywood,
I went on social media and put hashtag Me Too.
It empowered me, it gave me a voice,
it made me feel like I wasn't dirty
or I did something wrong.
I'm okay, finally with being vulnerable
and telling a story about something
that impacted me as a child
and that impacted not just me but
thousands, maybe millions of girls.
- [Producer] The other sides agenda has caused my life harm.
(footsteps approaching)
- Actually, I'm coming in.
- I can't remember
if it was the first time Obama was elected
or the second time,
but I do remember I was in middle school
and a girl came up got into my face and was like,
you're gonna cry 'cause your president wasn't elected.
I felt very attacked and very unsafe in that moment.
- I would say mine was a little bit
more life and death situation.
I was attacked outside of a restaurant
and stabbed four times back in Ohio.
- That's worse than mine.
So, I just wish I could open carry
and protect myself more effectively,
that's why I feel like the other side's agenda
kind of put me in harm's way.
I have a second amendment right and I have a right to carry,
and I don't see it any different really.
- Well, personally, I'm not a person
who believes that we need to
get rid of the second Amendment.
I think that's a false stereotype
that's propagated upon all this.
- Thanks man.
- If I'm with my children and I'm by myself
or whatever the case and I'm being stabbed.
- Yeah.
- Bet your bottom dollar,
if I have a gun I'm going to use it,
but I'm not going use a gun on someone
just because they're in my way or I feel threatened
or the idea of them or you know, I'm not,
but that's what's happening and that's,
you know, yours is a exception
and I'm so sorry that happened,
but when we see people getting killed,
you know, when we see what happened to Trayvon Martin,
you know, when we see what's happening in the world,
it's because of, you know, as an identity as a person
and because of the color of my skin, I'm a threat to you.
- [Alan] I think it's really about gun safety
'cause we're not about taking away the second amendment,
we're just about making it safer for people to hold arms or-
- And for background checks.
- Yeah, for background checks.
- Yes, background checks completely.
- I didn't step forward because has the agenda,
the other side's agenda personally harmed you?
And so what, from what I hear,
and I don't mean to like disregard, discredit,
it seems like the other,
someone from the other side attacked you,
but not the agenda.
The one area that might harm me is immigration.
I come from a family of immigrants, they're all legal now,
and so, it personally hasn't harmed me
but I have very many friends and family friends that,
that have had trouble with this,
but personally, I have not been harmed.
- I know that what happened to me
had nothing to do with the left's agenda
and, I'm sorry, it's just,
and but still at the same time I did feel attacked.
I felt unsafe at a school I had gone to since kindergarten.
- [Producer] This country is becoming too socialist.
- Am I the only one?
I would say that people want healthcare for all,
they want college for all
when in reality someone has to pay for it.
I'm okay with the schools being public.
I'm okay with the streets being cleaned
or you know, the police force being paid by tax dollars,
but that necessarily doesn't need to apply
to the whole system.
- I think people want socialism
but the country certainly is not socialist
and it never will be.
- Yeah, the country,
I think that just like millennials though, I would say,
a large portion want it.
- And as a millennial, I'm just gonna say,
I don't like to put the labels on things,
I don't wanna say we want a socialist society,
we want a society where we have access to opportunities
regardless of party, regardless of race.
- Yep.
- When the Affordable Care Act was implemented,
you know, I immediately saw
that I was paying more out of pocket,
all of a sudden there's this co-insurance I gotta pay for,
no one likes paying more money,
but I understood the reason why,
I understood that it benefited people
that are less fortunate.
More than likely, and this is just my opinion,
that republicans are often,
you know, what benefits me as an individual
versus society as a whole?
- No, I think I care about myself for sure as anyone should,
but collectively I want America to be great again.
- Yeah, but with Republicans everything is fine and dandy,
give more jobs, give more healthcare, give x, y, and z,
but then the second it personally affects me
and that I have to pay more-
- What Republican are you?
- Then it become- - Who are you referring to?
- Just Republicans in general.
- [Christy] Who are you referring to though?
- Trump just introduced a new budget,
what two days ago, that cut Medicare, that cut healthcare,
that cut social service programs to build a wall.
- That protects the nation we live in.
- What protects the nation is making sure
we have access to healthcare, access to education.
- Says you, you're not the president.
- I'm someone that's been negatively impacted
by not having healthcare, not having education.
- We all have, we all have been negatively impacted.
- You've been negatively impacted
by someone that crossed the border illegally.
- Yes, are you kidding me?
- My sister has, yeah,
someone tried to break into her apartment.
- And you knew he was undocumented for fact.
- Yes, 'cause he worked at her job
along with many of the illegal aliens
that worked in her company.
Consistently, she was being sexually abused,
she told her boss, they didn't do shit.
And then finally, he got so drunk or whatever,
he followed her home
and he tried to break into her apartment.
- Those things do happen,
but it's not an immigration problem.
- That's a problem.
- You don't think that's a immigration problem?
- Healthcare-
- I have nothing wrong with immigration,
the legal immigration. - It's not a problem for all,
healthcare is a problem for all.
- If you have a good job or you have a job,
you should be allotted healthcare from the business, okay?
- [Michael] What's wrong with that?
- If you have a job.
- Why don't you have a job?
- There's just a lot of reasons
since why people don't have a job,
with the type of job, the access to jobs,
you know, it's a real life thing
that you probably haven't experienced
- [Michael] Why don't you train them to have jobs.
- So, something that not a lot of people think about
is what about automation, right?
There's a company in San Francisco that says,
if it's repeatable, it's replaceable.
So what about all those people
that are gonna lose their jobs,
and so, how are they gonna get medical care?
How are they gonna have an education system?
- That's a great point.
- Well, then you have to get into the one of the fields
that isn't gonna be replaced, that's what I would say.
- Okay, how are they gonna pay for their education
so they can switch their fields?
- Learn to code.
- Oh my goodness.
- It's not that crazy, it's not a right.
Go to another country,
see what it's like in another country.
- But it should be a right, that's the point.
- Okay, but I'm talking about this country's.
- That's right, that's my point though,
to be in this country, it is a privilege.
- [Michael] Yeah, it is.
- Earn your privilege. - [Alan] Okay.
- It is not a right, having a job is not a right,
insurance is not a right, college is not a right.
Not everything in this country is free.
- [Michael] Humanity is always found a way.
- [Producer] All right, I'm gonna pause there
'cause this is the final prompt,
and I am very curious to see what everybody says to this.
- My God.
- [Producer] If you would like to have a slice of pizza.
- [Charity] I'm on a keto diet.
- [Michael] I said I wanted pizza this week,
but I am on a diet.
- I have.
(indistinct chatter)
- [Producer] Is this nation too divided?
- Yes. - Absolutely.
- Yes. - Yeah.
- Way too divided.
- I shouldn't have to lose friends over my political views,
that's a prime example of just how divided our nation is.
- My son, we worked on the Trump campaign
and we worked with Donald Trump Jr.
and our car was keyed twice
because I had a Trump sticker on my car.
We were obviously at the inauguration,
my daughter was in a black tie,
we went to the inaugural wall, of course.
And on her way there, she was spat on,
literally had spit from one of the protestors
for, spit on, my daughter's 16,
I don't know what you would do as a mother.
I lost- - Not gonna stay on camera.
- Oh, yeah.
Well, I did the exact same thing,
and it was just like, really? Like this is where we are?
- That was wrong and that shouldn't happen.
- No. - You know,
that shouldn't happen to anyone, we need to know how to
disagree and respect each other's parties.
And that happens on both sides,
Trump supporters do the same thing to us,
but it's not okay in any instance,
we shouldn't be spitting on people,
we should set examples and it starts with us.
- I think it's something
that we definitely need to focus more on, be,
at least willing to come to the table
and have a conversation,
even if we have different viewpoints, 'cause we will,
inevitable,
but at least come and talk about them,
and recognize that while we do have different solutions,
we have the same issues.
- I'm actually gonna give you a hug.
- Yeah.
- Didn't mean you. Good talk.
- [Ien] You know, as much conflict as there was,
I think that was still really valuable.
- It feels really real
to what's happening right now in our country,
especially with the country getting more and more divided,
us trying to bring people together.
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