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>> WELL, THAT’S WHAT OUR
INVESTIGATION’S GOING TO REVEAL.
I CAN TELL YOU THAT I HAVE
LOOKED AT THE UNDERLYING SOURCE
DOCUMENTS WHICH INCLUDE MORE
REVELATIONS REGARDING BRUCE OHR
AND HIS WIFE, NELLY, AND THE
CONNECTION WITH GPS.
THERE WAS A DIRECT PIPELINE INTO
THE DOJ ESSENTIALLY FROM THE
DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL COMMITTEE
AND FUSION GPS --
MARIA: RIGHT.
>> -- THAT IS TROUBLING.
MORE BAD DETAILS ARE GOING TO
COME OUT ABOUT THAT,
UNFORTUNATELY.
WHO AT THE FBI WAS AWARE OF
THAT, WE’RE STILL DETERMINING
THAT.
MARIA: THAT WAS FOUR YEARS AGO.
WELCOME BACK.
THAT WAS THEN-TEXAS CONGRESSMAN
AND FORMER DIRECTOR OF NATIONAL
INTELLIGENCE JOHN RATCLIFFE ON
THIS PROGRAM BACK IN FEBRUARY OF
2018.
MUCH OF WHAT HE TOLD US FOUR
YEARS AGO HE DECLASSIFIED
IMPORTANT DOCUMENTS, ALL OF IT
WAS PROVEN AGAIN LAST WEEK IN A
D.C. COURTROOM.
CLINTON CAMPAIGN LAWYER MICHAEL
SUSSMANN WAS ACQUITTED BY A D.C.
JURY FOR LYING TO THE FBI, BUT
WHAT WE LEARNED WAS WITH
ARGUABLY MORE IMPORTANT THAN
WHAT SUSSMANN KID THE OR DID NOT
DO. -- DID THE OR DID NOT DO.
JOINING ME NOW TO DISCUSS WHAT
CAME OUT OF THE ACQUITTAL IS
FORMER DIRECTOR OF NATIONAL
INTELLIGENCE, PROSECUTOR AND
TEXAS CONGRESSMAN JOHN
RATCLIFFE.
JOHN, THANKS VERY MUCH FOR
COMING BACK.
WE APPRECIATE YOU, EVERYTHING
YOU’VE SAID OVER THE LAST
SEVERAL YEARS HAS MATERIALIZED
JUST EXACTLY AS YOU SAID IT.
THANKS FOR EDUCATING OUR VIEWERS
SO MANY YEARS AGO.
WHAT IS YOUR REACTION TO WHAT
HAPPENED LAST WEEK WITH MICHAEL
SUSSMANN?
>> WELL, OF COURSE, THE VERDICT
WAS DISAPPOINTING BECAUSE IT WAS
CONTRARY TO THE EVIDENCE.
I MEAN, MICHAEL SUSSMAN’S OWN
TEXT MESSAGES CONFIRMED EXACTLY
WHAT THE GOVERNMENT SAID WHICH
IS THAT HE CLAIMED TO JUST BE A
PRIVATE CITIZEN COMING IN WHEN
HE HAD A STORY ABOUT A
CONNECTION BETWEEN TRUMP
CAMPAIGN SERVER AND A RUSSIAN
BANK WHICH WAS CLEARLY FALSE.
WHEN THE EVIDENCE CLEARLY SHOWED
THAT HE WAS ACTING ON BEHALF OF
CLINTON CAMPAIGN.
UNFORTUNATELY, THE JUDGE IN THIS
CASE WOULDN’T ALLOW CERTAIN
EVIDENCE OF THE CLINTON
CONSPIRACY TO BE INCLUDED.
BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, ALLOWED
CLINTON DONORS TO SERVE ON THE
JURY AS WELL AS OTHER DEMOCRATIC
DONORS AND EVEN ONE JUROR WHOSE
DAUGHTER WAS ON THE SAME SPORTS
TEAM WITH THE DEFENDANT CAN.
SO, YOU KNOW, UNFORTUNATELY, IT
WASN’T THE, A JUST VERDICT.
WE HAVE A GREAT JURY SYSTEM IN
THIS COUNTRY, BUT IT DOESN’T
ALWAYS GET IT RIGHT.
THIS JURY FOUND MICHAEL SUSSMANN
NOT GUILTY.
AS YOU RECALL, ANOTHER JURY
FOUND O.J. SIMPSON NOT GUILTY,
AND I THINK MOST AMERICANS THAT
WOULD HAVE PAID ATTENTION TO
BOTH TRIALS WOULD HAVE SAID THAT
THEY GOT THAT WRONG.
BUT TO THE POINT THAT YOU JUST
MADE, MARIA, YOU’RE RIGHT.
TO THE BIGGER PICTURE HERE, JOHN
DURHAM’S PROSECUTION MAY HAVE
LOST THIS BATTLE, BUT THEY’RE
CLEARLY WINNING THE WAR.
THE MOST POWERFUL TESTIMONY TO
COME OUT OF THIS WAS ADMISSIONS
BY THE CLINTON CAMPAIGN ABOUT
THE FACT THAT THE TRUMP-RUSSIA
COLLUSION NARRATIVE WAS, IN
FACT, APPROVED BY HILLARY
CLINTON.
YOU REMEMBER WHEN WHEN I
DECLASSIFIED THAT INTELLIGENCE,
THE CLINTON CAMPAIGN SAID IT WAS
UTTER B.S., AND THE MEDIA SAID
IT WAS RUSSIAN KISS INFORMATION.
LAST WEEK -- DISINFORMATION.
LAST WEEK HILLARY CLINTON’S
CAMPAIGN MANAGER, UNDER OATH,
HAD TO ADMIT, NO, HILLARY
CLINTON APPROVED THIS PLAN TO
SMEAR DONALD TRUMP AND HIS
CAMPAIGN WITH FAKE ALLEGATIONS
OF RUSSIAN COLLUSION, AND HER
LAWYER,.
MARK: LIE WHEREAS, UNDER OATH
ADMITTED, YEAH, WE PAID FUSION
GPS MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO
CREATE THE NOW-DEBUNKED STEELE
DOSSIER WHICH SERVED AS THE
BASIS OF THE INVEST INTO THE
TRUMP CAMPAIGN FOR MORE THAN --
INVESTIGATION.
AND THAT’S WHY I’M OPTIMISTIC
NOT ONLY WILL JOHN DURHAM BE
SUCCESSFUL IN SOME OF THE
ONGOING PROSECUTIONS, BUT CAN
EXPAND THE INDICTMENTS THAT HE
WANTS TO BRING GIVEN THE
INVOLVEMENT OF CERTAIN FBI
OFFICIALS IN SPREADING THE FALSE
NARRATIVE TO THE AMERICAN
PEOPLE.
MARIA: WELL, JOHN, IT’S VERY
DISCOURAGING TO SEE WHAT HAS
TAKEN PLACE IN OUR COUNTRY WITH
SO MANY AGENCIES POLITICIZED AND
REALLY WHAT APPEARS TO BE A
DOUBLE STANDARD.
TWO DIFFERENT SYSTEMS OF
JUSTICE.
LOOK WHAT HAPPENED OVER THE
WEEKEND TO PETER NAVARRO.
A FORMER TRUMP OFFICIAL GOES TO
THE AIRPORT TO CATCH.
A PLANE.
AS HE’S ACTUALLY BOARDING THE
PLANE, FBI AGENTS COME OVER, PUT
HANDCUFFS ON HIM AND LEG IRONS
ON HIS ANKLES.
HE SAID THEY WOULD NOT ALLOW HIM
TO MAKE A PHONE CALL, AND THREE
MINUTES BEFORE HE WAS TO FACE A
JUDGE, THEY GAVE HIM A PUBLIC
DEFENDER.
I SPOKE TO HIM YESTERDAY.
HE TOLD ME THEY MISHANDLED HIM.
AND YET ALL OF THESE YEARS OVER
THE CLINTON CAMPAIGN LIES ABOUT
DONALD TRUMP AND STILL WE’RE
WAITING FOR ACCOUNTABILITY.
AND YET HE IS A SUPPORTER OF
TRUMP, AND THEY GO AND THEY TAKE
HIM AND THROW HIM IN JAIL.
>> WELL, I THINK PEOPLE SEE,
UNFORTUNATELY, THAT THERE IS
THAT DOUBLE STANDARD.
I MEAN, THE FOREMAN IN THE
SUSSMANN JURY CAME OUT AND SAID,
WELL, WE DIDN’T THINK HE SHOULD
BE CHARGED, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE
BIGGER THINGS GOING ON IN THIS
COUNTRY THAN LYING TO THE FBI.
TELL THAT TO MICHAEL FLYNN AND
TO GEORGE PAPADOPOULOS AND FOLKS
ASSOCIATED WITH THE TRUMP
CAMPAIGN THAT WERE PROSECUTED,
AND THE COUNTRY WAS LED TO
BELIEVE THAT, YOU KNOW, THESE
WERE CRIMES OF THE CENTURY.
SO THERE IS A DOUBLE STANDARD
THERE AND, UNFORTUNATELY, YOU
KNOW, THE LEADERSHIP AT THE FBI
HAS PLAYED A PROMINENT ROLE IN
THE AMERICAN PEOPLE LOSING FAITH
AND IN THAT ORGANIZATION.
YOU KNOW, AS I SAID, WHAT THE
INTELLIGENCE THAT I DECLASSIFIED
CLEARLY SHOWED WAS THAT NOT JUST
OUR INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY, BUT
OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT COMMUNITY
WAS BRIEFED ON THE FACT THAT IT
WAS HILLARY CLINTON THAT CREATED
THIS ENTIRE TRUMP-RUSSIA
COLLUSION NARRATIVE AND THAT THE
FBI KNEW THAT FROM THE BEGINNING
OF THE CROSSFIRE HURRICANE
INVESTIGATION AND THAT THEY ALSO
KNEW IT FROM THE BEGINNING OF
THE MUELLER INVESTIGATION AND
YET, YOU KNOW, PRODUCED A
387-PAGE REPORT, YOU KNOW, ON
THAT THAT DOESN’T MENTION THE
FACT THAT IT WAS HILLARY
CLINTON’S CAMPAIGN THAT CREATED
THOSE ALLEGATIONS.
SO, YOU KNOW, WHEN THAT IS THE
PURPOSE OF WHAT YOUR SPECIAL
COUNSEL IS TO BE AND YOU LEAVE
THAT OUT ALTOGETHER, IT SHOWS
THAT THERE WAS A DELIBERATE
EFFORT HERE, UNFORTUNATELY, ON
BEHALF OF SOME FOLKS IN OUR LAW
ENFORCEMENT COMMUNITY TO MISLEAD
THE AMERICAN PEOPLE FOR
POLITICAL REASONS.
MARIA: YEAH.
WE JUST SHOWED THE JOHN BRENNAN
NOTES ON THE SCREEN WHICH YOU
DECLASSIFIED.
THAT WAS ONE KEY DOCUMENT THAT
YOU DECLASSIFIED WHICH SHOWED
JOHN BRENNAN WROTE NOTES THAT
THE RUSSIANS KNOW THAT HILLARY
CLINTON IS COMING OUT WITH A
STORY AGAINST TRUMP, AND THE
SECOND ITEM THAT YOU
DECLASSIFIED, TELL ME ABOUT
THAT.
>> YEAH.
SO THE SECOND, SO BY LAW BECAUSE
THERE WAS A COUNTERINTELLIGENCE
INFORMATION INVOLVING A DOMESTIC
ACTOR, IN THIS CASE THE CLINTON
THE CAMPAIGN SAYING, LOOK,
HILLARY CLINTON’S CAMPAIGN IS
CREATING THESE FALSE ALLEGATIONS
AGAINST THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN, THE
CIA WAS REQUIRED TO SEND THAT
INFORMATION OVER TO THE FBI,
WHICH THEY DID.
BUT IT WENT TO FBI AGENT PETER
STRZOK, AND I THINK YOUR VIEWERS
WILL KNOW KNOW THAT IS THE SAME
AGENT WHO FOR MONTHS HAD BEEN
SENDING HUNDREDS OF TEXT
MESSAGES SAYING THAT HE WAS
GOING TO PERSONALLY STOP DONALD
TRUMP FROM EVER BECOMING
PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES,
AND AND THE SAME AGENT WHO
ROBERT MUELLER ADDED TO THE
MUELLER INVESTIGATIVE TEAM AS
ONE OF THE LEAD INVESTIGATORS.
SO FROM THE VERY BEGINNING, IT
SHOWS THAT THE FBI AND EVERYONE
IN LAW ENFORCEMENT THAT THEN
BECAME PART OF THE MUELLER
INVESTIGATION WERE AWARE FROM
DAY ONE WITH, MARIA, THAT THIS
WHOLE TRUMP-RUSSIA INVESTIGATION
THAT WAS PLAYING OUT OVER YEARS
TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WAS
CREATED BY THE HILLARY CLINTON
CAMPAIGN.
AND, AGAIN, TO MAKE THAT POINT
387-PAGE REPORT AND NOT ONE
SINGLE WORD ABOUT THE FACT THAT
THE ORIGINS OF THIS CAME FROM
THE CLINTON CAMPAIGN.
THAT WAS DELIBERATE, IT WAS THE
WILLFUL, IT WAS POLITICAL, IT
WAS INTENTIONAL, AND I THINK THE
AMERICAN PEOPLE SEE THAT NOW,
AND THAT’S WHAT’S IMPORTANT
ABOUT JOHN DURHAM CONTINUING IN
THE FACE OF THIS NOTWITHSTANDING
WHAT INDIVIDUAL JURIES WILL DO,
BUT TO TELL THIS STORY TO THE
AMERICAN PEOPLE.
YOU KNOW, ACCOUNTABILITY, MARIA,
I THINK IS GOING TO HAVE TO COME
FROM THE AMERICAN PEOPLE
THEMSELVES IN NOVEMBER IN 2022
AND IN 2024, IN HOLDING THE, YOU
KNOW, OFFICIALS ACCOUNTABLE FROM
THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY THAT WERE
INVOLVED AND FROM THE FBI THAT
WERE INVOLVED THAT WERE CLEARLY
ACTING, YOU KNOW, ON BEHALF TO
ADVANCE A DEMOCRATIC,
PROGRESSIVE, LIBERAL AGENDA.
MARIA: SO IS THERE ANYTHING THAT
YOU THINK COULD HAPPEN THAT WILL
GET US MORE IN BALANCE AND NOT
HAVE SUCH A DOUBLE STANDARD?
DO YOU WANT TO SAY ANYTHING
ABOUT WHAT TOOK PLACE ON FRIDAY
FOR PETER NAVARRO BEING
HANDCUFFED?
>> WELL, I THINK IT WAS
OUTRAGEOUS.
PETER NAVARRO IS TELLING THE
TRUTH, AND THAT REALLY IS WHAT
HAPPENED, CHRISTOPHER WRAY
SHOULD HOLD A PRESS CONFERENCE
AND SHOULD HOLD PUBLICLY
ACCOUNTABLE THE PEOPLE WHO ACTED
SO OUT OF LINE.
PUTTING HIM IN LEG IRONS?
AN OFFICIAL FROM THE TRUMP
CAMPAIGN FOR DEFYING A SUBPOENA?