Hello folks, Kirk and Jay here, with Kirk giordano plastering, with a tip on how to skim
coat wonder board hardy board you name it any kind of cementitious board, and how to do it in
a day, why do i why is that important well it I'll get to that later, but here's what I got
to work with you put your mesh tape over your joints you put your corners on whether you want
metal, plastic, polyurethane, it doesn't matter it's just like sheetrock the only difference between
what I'm going to do and sheetrock materials is I'm going to use a veneer plaster it's limestone
with gypsum it's hard you can't stick thumbtacks in it and more importantly rather than come here
three to four separate times and put tape and mud we're only going to be here one so we're going to
give a finish that's 20 to 30 times harder than a taping mud now the fellow here said, gee Kirk, we
had a few issues can you handle it? so I said, "What kind of issues," he said well we put this on,
and this cockeyed, and you can't see it but it's bowed here and I thought ah let's see so I put
these corners on and I was using their guides these are templates guides same thing so I put
a piece of their trim board here and I thought well hello dudes you got close to three inch or
quarter three quarters of an inch here and about a quarter here and then you got a half inch there
and so of course I put it on I thought oh wow it's kind of it's got a cockeyed or wonky but
nothing we can't handle there's a we're prepared to do as I like to do same day methods that are it
save you a lot of time to do one day for example I'm going to get started and tell you an example.
I hired a fella to do my bathroom and is to put an exhaust vent in so he's doing his exhaust vent
in my bathroom now as he's doing this exhaust man he did the venting and almost everything
else quite quickly now what he has left is he's doing taping mud over the sheetrock and I didn't
tell him, that's what I do for a living, I thought okay you want to do it, so he is in
my bathroom now three times an amount of dust he's made, I finally said dude, leave it alone.
That was about a week ago, and leave it alone we'll do it because he's making too much dust,
and this system here you put it on and remember earlier I said that this was kind of cockeyed
well I'm feeling a lot of it up right now and how do i how would i or how would you make it
straight okay granted, we're going almost an inch thick here now veneers, are made to go
about an eighth of an inch thick what happens if you go more nothing, it just takes a lot longer
to dry it's kind of like caulking what happens if you put caulking on and it shrinks the next
day because you put too much on? nothing, just put some more on okay so I can see right now
because this is so thick that we will run through this bucket but just to give you
an idea of how to do it I will stop doing the whole thing and get back to doing just little
stuff alright notice the size Hawk I'm using now this Hawk is a 20 inch Hawk or trowel 20-inch trial
What's the beauty of a 20-inch trowel? Well,
I can use it as a rod. Also, say, for example, I'll put this next coat on.
I'm going about a quarter-inch at the ends I'm going close to the edge and with this big
trial here I can feather everything in and do the rowdy with it they're like okay I'm going
to bring this out a half inch I can look at it guys I've been doing this a long time and
bring it out not a half inch with a smaller trowel you leave a lot of trowel lines okay
see just how much I have left here they're like this trial here I'd leave a lot of lines right
here going everywhere so the poll child doesn't leave lines it's great for swimming pools great
for interiors great for code feelings we have to do a lot of Cove ceilings so here's why what I'm
talking about as far as a big trial for this all right now because this wall is varied in
depth from almost an inch to a 1/2 inch what I do is I can take a rod and rod this or I can
just use this big trout here I take it I go up come down and just basically let this dictate
my wall I mean now granted I'm flexing with my wrists here and there to get the
exact depth I want but after a while doing this you get a feel for that kind of stuff.
and besides using veneers another thing about veneer plaster is when this sets I'm going
to put a finish coat on it today and I'm going to add some color in it just just a gray color
that's that's what these folks want it's not a problem you can't do that with tape and mud
guys tape in mud you'll be here with this kind of depth ratio that's off you couldn't even do
this with taping mud you'd be here for Oh three four times and each time it would crack it crack
big time so the bigger the trial that just means you can almost use it as a rod to get everything
true plummet and level of course God is some skill to it takes time in to know just how thick to go
with things this is just a base coat here the finish coat that's kind of funny there I was
talking to the fella last night I said well what do you want for finish coat he says we want to an
imperfect number four and I said I've not heard that one what is it imperfect number four and
he said I don't know it's just what the architect said and I said well that's like an oxymoron like
jumbo shrimp like pretty ugly like you've got to tell me what you want and he showed me a piece
of paper and it said imperfect number four and I said well there's no such thing and what
I believe it's they call number one number one finish it whether or not it's with the veneers
were using or whether or not it is with taping mud number one or two is you can just put on
one thin layer number three is you put on a thin layer of blood you also have to get all
your char marks out you can't have excess mud and number four like what we're supposed to be
doing here number four is where you get all the imperfections out you put two coats you have to
have two coats for number four number one and two one coat number three I believe it's one coat two
or two but as you start going up for fibers the level of so-called excellence so when you get to
four and five you've got to have no trial lines it's got to be smooth smooth anyway I thought
that was kind of funny when he said well gee and imperfect for first time I heard that terminology
and since we're out of mud here Jay is going to mix some more mud and I'm going to stop it right
here and more than likely when we come back I'm not going to bore you guys and show you the rest
of this how long will it take for this finish to set or the base coat in the heat right now
and we're sucking up a wonder board or whatever board this is we've hit it with a bonding agent
that plaster weld right there allows a cement tshis finish to adhere to anything or a gypsum
based product because they say you don't need it over this but we always use a bonding agent
over any kind of cement tissues board because it could be dusty if you got dust nothing did here's
to dust so at least the bonding agent gets rid of that also anyhow next when we come back we'll show
you how to do the finish coat over this because it's going to take me another Oh 15 minutes plus
Jay's got a mix okay guys back again now if you look right here I'm using this piece of wood here
is a rod or a template we got flush here what we wanted you see here we got flush what you folks
can do is put your first coat on and then just take this piece here and go off like this that
means everything will be true and plumb for me I just basically used my trial here and by the way
guys it's a big trailer 2016 for actually NAU new folks 12 by 5 12 by 5 rectangles no such thing as
a square child so rectangle cha 12 by 5 or 14 by 5 anyway lastly we're doing a little bit of color
and this diamond finish now how do you get a color that you want well it's a little difficult I have
done a whole video on just how to get the right color but say you're going for a color chart you
pick a color here then you buy a pack right here now these are generally four one hundred pound
sacks of stucco 94 to be exact you take the bag we're using 50 pound bags of diamond finish so
you would empty this on a board cut it in half and just use half if you using a 25 pound bag
you use a quarter so anyway now the last thing here to is find my gloves cool all right um the
hawk I was using the spread this base coat was pretty crooked when I when I spread the finish
coat I actually wanted a cleaner Hawk this one is my Marshalltown plastic one composite it's pretty
clean okay so we're going to start at the top and work our way down now what I'll generally do is
we keep all our tools wet by the way guys take a little bit of a bit of finished product and
can you do areas let's cook and dad yeah alright can you do just a finish coat on this one that
one you could but it sometimes has a tendency to bubble it'll it'll bubble and blister and when
you more try it the more you trial it down it'll it it's not good I do show videos doing that too
okay so you can see the color the color is silver gray now what we'll do is I'm starting from the
top obviously and taking it down and this these finishes like this what I tell folks is choose
a color we won't even charge you for the extra color because we can't guarantee these colors
therefore submit tshis products so when we put them for just some products like this you never
know what color it's going to turn out you you can have an idea but that's about it if it turns
out that color it was ply luck I've yet to match the color identical even though somebody chose
it so I usually tell folks I no charge for what we charge for is to do the actual prep work the
base coat finish work I usually tell people paint it if the fella here is a contractor and he knows
you could add color to a veneer so take it what all I'm doing is trying to get it to what I could
get off of this ladder you see my imperfections because when I pull down they show no big deal I
will come back to this and be in a veneer finish I could hit this with water bring it right back
to life okay what I do here is because we already have our wall which one plumb you take this and
just skin it and you can see it's sucking up on the wall itself because the base coat has dried
Easy peasy, yeah, I'm trying to put about an eighth of an inch because
the excess fat I could move around later if I just go real tight like say a 16,
then I'm not going to have anything to play with later. Yeah, a new hawk
is perfect for doing a good job getting the right amount off of it. Oh all right
take it down to this fireplace, and if the Clemson the material which you guys will get
Jay is a pretty experienced mixer, and still we get some clumps just keep troweling it down
I'm mixing it on the wall right here; otherwise, you just go one or two trifles one pass or two,
and it covers well take it down fill it up the sides come up to come down and that's all there
is to it guys we're going to keep on doing this here this is actually going to take me a ball ooh
another 20 minutes so because we still have got to put some on the sides Jay is going to do that
while I finish this and when we're completely done guys we'll show it to you okay guys let's
review why do a venire system your first coat has got sand in it for strength and plus when it
dries it will take on the second coat the finish coat the finish coat is on now now if you want
to get the finish coat say what I generally do is I put a little fat on it and leave it alone
and you can come back with water whether it's whether or not it's a felt plastering brush a
big brush for a paint brush one of these a Hudson sprayer spray bottle what it is is you wet the
wall okay that's water that's a lot of water now or you wet your trial keep that way and when you
come up see what's on there just a little bit any holidays holidays just a boo-boo a little debit in
the wall you come back and you do like so if you another way to do it is what what I do is I'll wet
the trough when it's wet I'll come over the dry surface and trial down right kind of like a level
5 right here but I'll put little imperfections in it later what you just keep wetting your trial a
dry trial will lift this finished from the base coat a lot of guys say hey how come it's bubbling
and blister and it's coming off because you're putting too much pressure and the trowel is dry
it'll it'll it'll push it in and then suck it right out and again guys don't use a big trial
like this a lot of people call say you how can you put it on accurately with a trial that
large has considered Hulk strength and the risk I'll tell you for me guys this big child right
here it's like 70 bucks some somewhere run a 35 bucks but the most important tool for me is this
dollar 50 brush this dollar 50 brush and I just took it out the pack this is my favorite brushes
for corners why you take it on its side and you just go straight up straight up on its side like
so turn it around there's where I just went up and hit the other side my favorite lead expensive tool
and it gets all the the clinkers off so don't spend a fortune on an expensive brush when this
dollar 51 throwaway works real well I always put my final touches with this guy right here anyway
guys my name is Kirk, Jason on the camera we thank you folks for watching and as usual, we'll see you
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