800,000 federal workers going back to
work today after the longest shutdown in
US history it lasted 36 days costing the
economy billions of dollars something
like six billion president trump signed
a three-week continuing resolution to
open the government back up get people
back to work and paid and allow border
security negotiations to continue the
president now saying he doubts lawmakers
will reach steals over new border wall
funding that he would accept also saying
if necessary he will build the wall
using emergency powers now the question
becomes where do we go from here joining
me once again this morning director of
jus Public Policy Institute and news for
Jax political analyst Rick Mulaney Rick
can I've got to ask you is shutting down
the government more of a third rail
using a railroad metaphor here more of a
problem for the president than not
building a wall well he bit off more
than he could chew here you've seen that
heard he has damaged damaging his
approval ratings I don't think he
properly assessed how challenging this
would be when every year in the position
where the other side doesn't have to do
anything you're you're really
negotiating from a weak position and
what we've seen historically is that
when you try to hold the government
hostage to a policy issue it's a weak
hand that was true in 2013 when the
Republicans shut down the government
over the Affordable Care Act it was true
last year when the Democrats shut down
the government over daca and it's true
this year over the wall President Trump
has found in the near term he has sort
of lost round one here to Dancy Pelosi
and Chuck Schumer who have to see where
we go from here
February 15th keep your eye on that date
that's going to be the critical time
does February 15th include a bold move
and you know what I'm talking about here
when you have 17 members of Congress
seven senators and 10 members of the
House of Representatives on a bipartisan
committee trying to craft something so
we can avoid another shutdown and
hopefully Bruce give each side an
opportunity to claim victory I suspect
you'll see a proposal that includes some
funding for border security that
proposal will include some money for
maybe repairing existing fencing and
barriers the question is does it include
any funding for additional barrier walls
we'll have to wait and see remember in
the past Democrats and Republicans have
funded that security for the ball while
700 miles back in 2006 we'll see if this
package includes
that or not so basically we need to see
some sort of a compromise that allows
everybody to save face that's exactly
what we need to see so nomenclature is
important here there's just no question
that words do matter language matters
labels matter this has really become
much more about symbolism politics than
the underlying substance this amount of
money 5.7 billion of course would not
provide the kind of wall that the
president's been talking about and what
we're really talking about is a small
portion of that potentially going to a
barrier or a fence this is about
president Trump wanting to claim victory
this is about the Democrats wanting to
deny him that victory I'm hopeful that
cooler heads won't prevail and we'll
come up with a package a compromise so
that we can avoid a shutdown and avoid
maybe the declaration of a national
emergency and I think we all walked away
with a better idea of what federal
government really does after this
shutdown there's no question that
although this was just a partial
shutdown people began to feel it you
began to feel it in the airports you
began to see it when you're when you'd
look to the government for all kinds of
operations TSA on the border and
otherwise and when the and as it grew
the pressure built on the president
leading him last Friday to come up with
a temporary solution clock is ticking
we've got till February 15th is that
enough time it's enough time to come up
with a proposal probably not enough time
to come up with that comprehensive
proposal that was suggested back in 2013
if I'm the Democrats I know that
President Trump wants this badly I come
up with something that I want and I
leverage this situation to get something
I what such as a proposal for a pathway
on daca for the dreamers if I'm the
Democrats I would want a package
proposal potentially if you're the
Republicans you lot more flexibility
here than in the past because this is
something the president truly wants it's
game of chess give a strategy it is Rick
Mulaney thank you we continue to stay on
top of what's happening in our nation's
capital as the border security battle
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