THAT KIND OF POSITION
THAT KIND OF POSITION.
NEIL: WE SHALL SEE, GOVERNOR.
HAPPY NEW YEAR.
NEIL,
NEIL,.
NEIL: CALL A BLUFF OR WHATEVER
YOU WANT TO SAY TO GOVERNOR'S
POINT.
THE LATEST TRANCHE ABOUT 230
TO UPWARDS OF $300 MILLION HAD
SENATOR RAND PAUL BACKING THE
PRESIDENT.
LISTEN TO THIS.
>> THIS ISSUE AND THIS MONEY,
WHY NOW, SENATOR?
YOU JUST GOT OFF THE PHONE
WITH THE PRESIDENT.
MOST AMERICANS WOULD SUPPORT
THE PRESIDENT ON THIS.
CHRISTIANS.
THERE'S A CHRISTIAN ASIA BB
THAT HAVE BEEN ON DEATH ROW
FOR FIVE YEARS.
THEY PUT DOCTOR IN JAIL FOR 33
YEARS, HE'S THE GUY WHO HELPED
US GET BIN LADEN.
THEY SEEMED TO LOOK THE OTHER
WAY WHEN BIN LADEN WAS THERE
FOR OVER A DECADE.
SO, YEAH, I THINK AMERICANS
AGREE WITH THE PRESIDENT.
.
NEIL: ALL RIGHT. FORMER NAVY
SEAL BEST-SELLING OFFER ROB
O'NEILL.
WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF THAT?
THEY DIDN'T -- THEY HID BIN
LADEN.
THEY WERE HIDING IN THE
PAKISTANI INTELLIGENCE KNEW
WHERE HE WAS.
HE WAS LIVING A FEW HUNDRED
METERS AWAY FROM A COLONEL
METERS AWAY FROM A COLONEL.
NEIL: DID AMERICA KNOW THAT?
>> YEAH. THERE WAS ALL KINDS
OF DIFFERENT
COUNTERINTELLIGENCE GOING ON
LIKE THE WHOLE STUFF WITH BIN
SAY THAT WHEN WE KNEW IT
WASN'T THE CASE BUT THEY WOULD
LAUGH AT US EVEN THOUGH WE
KNEW IT WASN'T THE CASE.
WHEN THE RUBBER HIT THE ROAD
WHEN WE WERE GOING TO GO AFTER
OPTIONS WAS THE MULTILATERAL
LAUGHABLE.
IF YOU WANT HIM GONE, MENTION
HIS NAME.
HE'LL BE GONE
HE'LL BE GONE.
NEIL: THEN WHY DID WE KEEP
GIVING MONEY?
BILLIONS OVER MULTIPLE?
>> WELL, I THINK PART OF THE
PROBLEM IS THAT WE HAVE -- WE
USED TO HAVE AT LEAST AS WE
WANT TO BE LIKED.
AND WE REALLY WANT TO KILL THE
ENEMY IN THE NICEST POSSIBLE
WAY.
WE BOTH HAVE MUTUAL INTEREST
IN PAKISTAN.
THEY HAVE THE PORT WHERE WE'RE
GOING TO BRING ALL OF OUR
STUFF THROUGH AND GET THEM
INTO THE GATE INTO COBBLE,
THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO WE NEED THEIR SUPPORT
THERE.
WE GIVE THEM A LOT OF MONEY
PLANES.
WE'RE AT THE POINT WHERE THEY
HAVE THE CHIP ON THE SHOULDER
AND IT'S NOT UNCOMMON FOR
SOMEONE TO BE A FAKE TOUGH
GUY.
THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE
TO HANDLE IT BECAUSE THEY NEED
OUR SUPPORT
OUR SUPPORT.
>> AND THAT'S THE PROBLEM THEY
MIGHT GO INTO MORE EUROPE ASIA
THAN NONNATO ALLY.
WHICH THEY'RE GOING TO
THREATEN TO DO AND CHINA WOULD
BE ALL ABOUT IT BECAUSE CHINA
WANTS TO EXPAND THEIR NAVY.
WE'VE SEEN IT WITH THE
ISLANDS.
I MEAN, IT'S NOT AS EASY AS A
TWEET
TWEET.
NEIL: SPEAKING OF TWEETING,
WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THE BACK
AND FORTH THIS PRESIDENT HAS
HAD WITH NORTH KOREA AND THE
LEADER.
I WANT TO GET THAT SECOND.
WELCOMES THEM AND SUPPORTS
THIS DEMOCRATIC MOVEMENT, THE
IRANIANS COUNTER AND SAY
YOU'RE AGITATING THINGS.
>> I LIKE THAT THE PRESIDENT
CAN TWEET BECAUSE HE CAN GET
HIS MESSAGE DIRECTLY OUT.
BUT I WISH HE WOULD TAKE --
LIKE SOME OF MY ADVICE I HAVE
FEW HOURS BEFORE YOU HIT
SEND.
DON'T BE AFRAID --
NEIL: LINCOLN WOULD WRITE
>> WELL, THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE
DOING.
I LIKE TO TWEET.
IT'S FUN FOR ME BUT AS I WAS
TIMES.
I'M USED TO GOING WITH PEOPLE
UNHINGED WHERE YOU CAN'T
JOKE.
THERE'S A BUTTON.
BUT ALSO I DISAGREE WHEN
IF A MISSILE'S LAUNCHED AT
SAN FRANCISCO AND WE HAVE A
MATTER OF MINUTES, I DON'T
WANT CONGRESS TO GET TOGETHER
TO TRY TO DECIDE A SOLUTION
TO TRY TO DECIDE A SOLUTION.
NEIL: I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE
SAYING.
BUT WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF THESE
REPORTS?
BUT IT'S ALWAYS RISKY.
BUT THAT MANY IN THE WHITE
HOUSE ARE CONCERNED, THOSE
WORKING AROUND THE PRESIDENT
THAT HE IS AGITATING US INTO
AN ACCIDENTAL WAR.
I THINK WE DO HAVE TOO MANY
GOOD PEOPLE IN PLACE.
AND PRESIDENT TRUMP WAS REALLY
GOOD AT THE BEGINNING TO PUT
GENERAL MCMASTER WHO EVEN HAVE
DISAGREEMENTS WITH EACH
OTHER.
THAT'S GOOD, THOUGH, BECAUSE
YOU DON'T GET ACCOMPLISHED
WITH AGREEING ON THE SAME
THING.
NEIL: THE PRESIDENT CAN
OVERRULE THAT.
>> HE CAN BUT HE IS SMART
I DON'T LIKE WAR.
I HOPE WE NEVER GET INTO WAR
AGAIN
AGAIN.
NEIL: WHAT WOULD WAR BE WITH
NORTH KOREA?
>> WELL, IT ALL DEPENDS
BECAUSE ALL THE PUNDITS MYSELF
INCLUDED WILL SAY IF IT'S
CONVENTIONAL WAR, YOU GET A
COUPLE HUNDRED THOUSAND DEAD
IN NORTH KOREA, SOUTH KOREA.
CAPABILITIES THAT NO ONE KNOWS
ABOUT WHERE YOU TURN THEM
OFF.
ELECTRONIC WARFARE, STUFF LIKE
THAT.
I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT WOULD
>> NO. I THINK KIM JONG-UN IS
DOING THE SAME THING HIS
FATHER DID.
HE'S ALL IN ON THE FACT THAT
HE GETS A NO KIDDING
INTERCONTINENTAL BALLISTIC
WEAPON HE CAN START
NEGOTIATING
NEGOTIATING.
NEIL: BUT I DON'T THINK HE WAS
AS SMART AS HIS.
>> HE WAS RAISED IN A BUBBLE
AND THINK SO HE'S A
SUPERHERO.
HE THINKS HE CAN CHANGE THE
WEATHER.
I'VE HEARD STORIES OF KNOWING
THEY'LL GET SHOT IS ON THEIR
BREAKS THEY'RE SCAVENGING
AROUND THE PLACE BECAUSE
THERE'S NOTHING TO EAT THERE.
NEIL: WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THE
PLANNED TALKS BETWEEN THE
ATHLETES TO PARTICIPATE?
>> I THINK THAT'S GOOD
>> I THINK THAT'S GOOD.
NEIL: YOU DON'T THINK IT'S
TRIANGULATING THE UNITED
STATES WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING?
>> POSSIBLY BUT I MEAN IF
SOMEONE'S TALKING TO THE
NORTH, THAT COULD BE AT LEAST
A GOOD THING WITH THE
REALIZATION THAT MAYBE COULD
KEEP SOME POWER AND BECOME
PART OF THE WORLD COMMUNITY.
HE WOULD HAVE TO GIVE UP THE
CRAZY PARTIES AND FREE VODKA
WITH THAT EITHER
WITH THAT EITHER.
NEIL: APPARENTLY YOU'RE
INSPIRING THAT COUNTRY TO
IMITATE THAT HERE.
>> YOU HAVE TO FIGURE
EVERYTHING'S FAKE THERE.
HUGE HOTEL THEY'VE BEEN TRYING
TO BUILD FOR 40 YEARS.
I GUESS INSIDE THE ELEVATOR
ONE OF THE PROBLEMS IS THEY
DON'T GO TO THE TOP.
SO I'M NOT SURE THE
THAT OUT.
>> IT'S NOT THAT GREAT
>> IT'S NOT THAT GREAT.
NEIL: HOW TALL?
>> HAVE YOU EVER SEEN A
PICTURE OF THE NORTH AND SOUTH
AT NIGHT?
>> THE LIGHTS THAT'S DEMOCRACY
AND THE NORTH THAT'S COMMUNISM.
THIS BECAUSE A LOT HAS COME
OUT NOW.
I'M SORRY ON OSAMA BIN LADEN'S
SON.
AND.
>> WHO IS CONVENIENTLY ENOUGH
NEIL: IS THAT SO?
>> OH, YEAH,
>> OH, YEAH,.
NEIL: SO HE'S OF AGE AND
ANGRY.
>> 28, I THINK.
29, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
WELL, I MEAN, HIS BROTHER WAS
KHALID WAS ANGRY ON THE STAIRS
IT DIDN'T TURN OUT TOO LONG
FOR KHALID, MUHAMMAD
FOR KHALID, MUHAMMAD.
NEIL: DO YOU THINK THE SAME OF
THAT?
SAME FATE.
REGARDLESS IF IT'S A NIGHTTIME
RAID LIKE WE DID OR A DRONE
STRIKE OR WHATEVER IT IS
STRIKE OR WHATEVER IT IS.
NEIL: THERE'S ALWAYS THE
HELICOPTER CROWD THAT HAS COME
OUT SINCE YOU KILLED OSAMA BIN
LADEN THAT HE'S NOT REALLY
DEAD THAT HE WAS NEVER THROWN
WE HAVE THE PICTURES.
PART OF ME NOW -- WELL, I
DON'T REALLY CARE IT'S HARD TO
>> THEY WILL.
>> NO. AM I MEAN, WHAT ARE WE
GOING TO ANGER OUR ENEMIES?
SO WE SHOW IT TO SOME
ISLAMISTS AND THEY GET MAD?
THEY'RE ALREADY MAD AT US.
IF WE SHOWED IT TO THEM -- I
MEAN, BIN LADEN'S DEAD.
I MEAN, AGAIN, I CAN'T -- I
CAN TELL YOU WHAT HAPPENED BUT
I'M NOT GOING TO GET UPSET IF
SOMEONE DOESN'T BELIEVE ME.
BUT IT'S JUST PROOF THAT WE
MEANING AMERICA AND OUR
ALLIES, A LOT OF, YOU KNOW,
THE COALITION ALLIES, WE HAVE
THE CAPABILITIES TO FIND YOU
AND WHEN WE DO, WE CAN SEND
MEN AND WOMEN TO GET YOU, AND
IT'S TOUGH TO HIDE IN A CORNER
AND VIDEO YOURSELF ABOUT HOW
TOUGH YOU ARE BUT NEVER COME
OUT AND FIGHT.
HE'S -- THEY'RE TRYING TO MAKE
HIM SOMETHING HIS FATHER WAS,
WHICH THEY WON'T
WHICH THEY WON'T.
NEIL: I KNOW YOU'VE TOLD THIS
A MILLION TIMES AND WRITTEN
ABOUT IT EXTENSIVELY.
BUT HE'S TRIED TO SHIELD
HIMSELF.
>> OSAMA BIN LADEN DID.
WHEN I SAW HIM WHEN I TURNED
THE CORNER AT THE TOP OF THE
STAIRS, HE HAD HIS HANDS ON
EASY SHOT FOR ME AND HE WAS
QUITE A BIT TALLER THAN SHE
WAS.
BUT HE WAS -- WHEN I WANT UP
THE STAIRS, I ASSUMED HE WOULD
BUT HE WAS A WEAKLING
BUT HE WAS A WEAKLING.
NEIL: DID YOU KNOW THAT THIS
ISOSE?
>> I KNEW GOING UP THE STAIRS
THAT I'M ABOUT TO FIND OUT
WHAT A SUICIDE BOMBER IS
LIKE.
AND, FOR ME, IT'S A LET'S GET
IT OVER WITH.
I'M TIRED OF THINKING ABOUT IT.
NEIL: BUT YOU KNEW AS SOON AS
YOU SAW HIM THAT'S HIM.
>> IT WAS PROBABLY GIVE OR
TAKE A SECOND IN BETWEEN THE
VISUAL IDENTIFICATION THAT'S
HIM.
I REMEMBER THINKING HOW TALL
HE WAS AND SKINNIER THAN I
THOUGHT, SHORTER WHITE BEARD.
NOT THE TRADITIONAL LONG, LONG
DARK BEARD.
AND I RECOGNIZE HIS NOSE.
HE'S A THREAT, A SUICIDE
BOMBER.
THEY'RE NOT SURRENDERING AND
THAT'S IT
THAT'S IT.
NEIL: AND THE PAKISTANIS HAD
BEEN HARBORING HIM.
>> YEAH. THEY WROTE ARTICLES
AFTER WE LEFT.
THEY WERE ANGRY.
I MEAN, WE PROVED TO THEM
WE'RE ACTUALLY A LOT BETTER
THAN YOU
THAN YOU.