♪ Bob and Brad ♪
♪ The two most famous ♪
♪ Physical therapists ♪
♪ On the internet ♪
- Hi folks, I'm Bob Schrupp physical therapist.
- Wow, Brad Heineck physical therapist.
(clapping) - Together,
we are the most famous physical therapist
on the internet.
- In our opinion, of course, Bob.
- Alright, this is Brad's quote speaking here now.
- Okay. - Quotes.
"Why I quit Karate, Taekwondo after 17 years,
and how it changed my life."
Wow. - Yeah.
Well Bob, you know,
the mission statement of our channel
is how to stay healthy fit and pain free.
And the activity, the adventure
of joining a martial arts club or program,
does it fit into our mission statement?
- I think it does.
- And we're gonna talk about this,
but why would I quit if it does?
And this whole thing is gonna explain it.
Explain my background,
and how I got into this therapy,
and fitness and trying to share with other people.
And I wanted to get people if...
- It played a big role in your life by the way.
- Oh, absolutely.
And if there's other people out there who are thinking,
wish, are my children good for...
- Good for them, right. - Yeah.
Or is it for me,
or maybe I'm too old for that kind of activity.
All those questions will be answered.
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- There you go.
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- Right, yeah exactly. - Yeah
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- Podcast, exactly right.
- We just decided to go ahead
and throw that in there, why not?
- Sure, absolutely Bob.
- So Brad, can I ask how old were you
when you started with Karate?
- Well I'm 57 now. - Martial arts, we gotta...
- Well that's a good point.
- One point you gotta specify what...
- I started the school I went to,
was called American Taekwondo.
- Okay.
- Or American Karate.
In America, some schools take the traditional names away
and put an American name in there.
- Sure.
- And I'm not gonna get into that.
But you know, actually it was American Taekwondo
is what I studied.
And then I also studied some Aikido for a few.
- I was gonna say,
I know you did a Aikido 'cause I...
- Which is a Japanese form,
Taekwondo is a Korean form.
- Which one did you do first?
Or at the same time did you do both?
- Taekwondo, American Taekwondo.
They introduced some boxing style into it
versus their traditional.
Which we're not gonna get into.
- Yeah Aikido is not a lot of holds and stuff like that.
- Aikido it's a soft form.
- Yeah, and learning to fall.
- Yeah, you don't really learn the hard punches
and the hard kicks.
It's a soft form.
You work with the energy of the opponent.
It's a completely different philosophy.
- Yeah, I got a friend
that's heavily into that right now, so.
- Yeah, at the time I was 22 years old.
It was 25 years ago I guess, was it?
35, 35 years ago.
- 105 years ago.
- Yeah, might as well be.
But at the time running was boring to me.
Everything I do now actually
it was kind of boring to me at the time.
- Right, it's just like,
I remember when I was that age,
I was like when someone mentioned golf,
I'm like, what are you kidding me.
You think I'm 100 years old.
- I'll do that when I get older.
- And I did. - Exactly.
- You know I love it now.
And now it's my life. - Right.
So anyways, I just looked in the yellow pages.
At the time, there was no internet.
And I saw, Karate or martial arts
I'll go to there and see.
I called them up and I went there,
and just started there and continued.
And for another 17 years,
I was kind of married to it.
I really enjoyed it. - Obsessed by it.
- Not obsessed, but it was a very...
- A good healthy obsession.
- It was yeah.
I mean, you could say that.
- Brad, I remember this very clearly,
like when I was in my teen years and early 20s.
Like people that knew Karate
and study Karate or martial arts,
they were very cool to us.
And I mean, serious.
Like I remember,
one guy came to the neighborhood.
And he had to numb shocks and he had, yeah.
- Was he doing them on public?
- Yeah. - Yeah, that's a big no, no.
- I think it was.
- If you're in our school,
you could not do that in public.
Unless it was a formal demonstration.
- It didn't strike me that.
I mean, I don't find that unusual,
'cause he was kind of that person.
- That he was definitely seeking the limelight.
- You do not show off your skills in public.
- He was using it to get women,
He was using I mean.
But just again,
there's that when you're the teenage boy or.
- Yeah.
- It's a real cool factor, I mean
- Yeah, the whole idea of respect
in martial arts is like this.
And that would not be showing your art any respect.
It would be flaunting it.
No, no, no, that's not good.
And that's one of the benefits that you can learn.
So if your children or you wanna get into martial arts,
and you go to a school.
You will know very quickly
if the instructor,
if the philosophy of the teaching of that school
is gonna fit what you want to learn
or what you want your kids to learn.
- So you don't want him telling them
to sweep the leg, huh.
- Right, yeah.
- "Karate Kid" movie.
- Yeah, sometimes Hollywood,
not sometimes Hollywood, oftentimes.
- Always analogies.
- Depicts a portrayal of Karate as this.
- Kick ass type. - Yeah, exactly.
- Michael, Claude Von Shawn Bon,
whatever his name is.
He's very talented. - Van Dame.
But you know, you're not gonna go out there
and kick your classmates.
If you do, you're out of the school.
- Sure - That's how we were.
So anyways, I went into it not for self defense.
I wanted that social activity and physical activity,
and that's what I found.
I ran into people from all walks of life.
Doctors, lawyers, people who worked in the trades
like I did at the time.
- What was the older age?
What was the upper end of the age would you say?
- I taught a 72 year old?
- Did you really?
- Yeah, that was the oldest student,
the youngest student I had was four.
'Cause I started teaching after I was into Karate.
My third year as a red belt,
I just started introductory classes.
When I got to be my black belt after four years into it,
I started teaching on a regular basis.
- And so what was your highest level?
- Second degree. - Second degree.
- I could have went for a third degree and I just,
I didn't take the time to do it.
But you know, I had enough time in four.
- I was gonna say secondary degree
is pretty awesome already.
You know, I had a friend that got into this,
and he was doing pretty well.
He was already in his 40s,
and he said the same thing.
They had one one lady in this class that she was in her 60s.
- Sure. - And first she started off,
and she didn't have the flexibility.
But after months and months it just started coming.
- Right, right.
- It was pretty amazing.
- And you get to know these people.
Now, our school was all ages. - Sure.
- They'll be classes where,
five years old registered people.
- Sure.
- Up to whatever.
And some classes will be just adults,
some would be just kids,
and then we mixed them at times too.
So it worked out well.
Obviously, you're teaching children different.
You're talking to them about respect.
You're talking to them about focus, behavior.
You're not teaching that to the adults.
- Sorry, I have to laugh
'cause I just keep thinking of this thing.
- Focus Bob, focus.
- I know I'm laughing because if you ever watch "Seinfeld,"
there was an episode where Kramer went to Karate,
took Karate.
And he was a little kids,
and he's kicking their butt.
And so at the end of the show,
these kids cut him in the alley
and they beat the crap out off him.
All the kids to get together.
But he's beating like five year olds.
- Sure. - He's proud of it.
- Yeah,
that's another wonderful Hollywood depiction.
- By the way, Brad, I have something to mention right now.
Brad did write a book by the way.
You did this quite a few years ago.
- When I was in physical therapy school.
Because that's how I got into,
one of the reasons I got into physical therapy,
'cause with Karate and I do wanna mention this.
I was having back problems.
I was working a physical job,
doing a lot of heavy lifting.
Had back problems,
I was going to the chiropractor on a regular basis.
And I had a great chiropractor 'cause she said,
Well do anything that,
you know any activity that makes me feel better.
Karate made me feel better consistently.
The stretching, the range of motion.
Now I understand it, back then I didn't.
I just know I didn't have to go to the chiropractor.
Less money for me,
I didn't want to go anyways.
- Yeah, and good form too, right.
I mean, in Karate.
I mean, they're emphasizing good form.
- Right, actually some of the structures we used to do,
I would say.
- Maybe not so much. - Back of them.
one way or another that I came out feeling better.
I didn't have to go to the chiropractor,
and actually just quit going after a while.
- So you kind of combined your knowledge from two areas.
From physical therapy and from martial arts,
that's why you did this book, right.
- Right, 'cause I didn't go back to school
until after I was a black belt.
- Now this book is only available on Kindle, right.
- Right, it's a Kindle.
We don't have paper.
- Yeah, so it's called "Martial Arts Manual"
we'll have a link below.
"Martial Arts manual for Stretching,
Strengthening and Treatment of Common Injuries."
So it's by Brad Heineck, H-E-I-N-E-C-K.
- Right, so I took my therapy knowledge
and applied it to the existing exercises,
and the training of martial arts.
And if you're an instructor,
it's great read because you're gonna be a better instructor.
'Cause you're gonna understand the biomechanics of muscles.
How to treat a muscle pull,
how to treat if someone got a bump on the head.
What do you watch for.
If you're a beginner,
if you wanna get your front kicks higher,
I go through which specific stretches,
stretch which specific muscles.
So that you can get your front kick,
instead of waist level to the head level.
- I would like it right now,
so I could go from knee level to waist level.
- It doesn't matter where you are.
And that's the beauty of the martial arts,
is if you got a good instructor or a good school,
they'll take you from whatever level you're at,
and take you from there.
- Your competition is you, your baseline.
- Right, your next goal.
And that's really the beauty of martial arts
is the belt color.
You start out with a white belt.
In our system, different systems are different.
We went from white to gold.
Actually, now they added stripes at that school,
which we didn't have when I was there.
And you work, so there's always a goal.
Very goal oriented. - Sure
- Which could carry over into your life,
and that's what we did with children.
This is your next goal.
You know, in school,
you wanna get to your next grade,
or your next you know,
that spelling test and everything works together.
- It's amazing how that motivates you.
I mean, at any point in life.
But I remember my parents
would give us a nickel for Bs and a dime for As.
- Oh sure.
- I worked my butt off just to get it.
- You know, you wanted approval too.
Can I read this or not?
- No, that was given to...
- Well, I thought you might wanna say.
- Bob, don't read it.
- I won't read it,
but you're just saying it might be useful
with your children someday.
- It is, there's a personal note to my step.
- I see what you're saying. - Yeah.
- I got it. - So it'd be okay.
But it probably be best not to.
- No, I understand exactly what you say.
You were dedicating this to help.
That it'll hopefully help somebody's children someday.
- Right, exactly.
So it'd be okay to read,
but it's confidential.
So, going on with it.
So for 17 years,
I'd go to work, I would do this.
Practice Karate.
And finally, I started to meet some University teachers
that taught at GW Lacrosse.
And I realized these people are just normal.
They're PhD, but I talked to them
just like I talked to anybody.
You know I thought,
I really wanna know why Karate helps my body.
And here I'm talking to these University teachers.
You say, why don't I go to school
to become a physical therapist.
And I thought, 10 years ago,
I would not even considered it.
I didn't have the confidence to go back to college.
Academics is not my strong point.
But after building myself up
and getting get my black belt,
my second degree.
- Gave you the confidence.
- And learning. - Meeting these people.
- Meeting these people.
All of a sudden, why don't I?
So I did.
It's like, if I did not have
this experience from martial arts training,
I wouldn't be a therapist.
- So how old were you Brad at that time?
- I was 29 years old,
my freshman year in college.
- Alright, listen to this.
I'm gonna make the statement. - Okay.
- This is a compliment to you.
Because physical therapy school is very, very difficult.
And it's difficult.
And I can tell you, we had people that you know,
I was at kind of the prime of my life
as far as memory. - Academic, yeah.
- Academically, and we had a guy in our class
that was 30 years old.
And you were older by time you got into PT school, right.
- Yeah, I was 33 years, yeah.
- Amazing, because we had a guy that was 30.
He had his PhD in a different topic.
And he goes, I just struggle.
He goes, these kids remember things so fast.
- Yes, yes.
- So by my 30 things are starting to slow down already.
And I mean really Brad, really kudos to you.
I mean to go to school, start that late,
and then get through physical therapy school.
Which is really, really difficult.
I'm not trying to enhance it because we're therapists,
but it is tough.
- Well, because they take your GPA.
- Right.
- You gotta have a very high GPA just to apply.
- You gotta have a very high GPA just to get in.
- Right.
- And then you gotta get accepted.
But one way or another,
I lacked out of that because of ignorance.
I did not know that it was difficult.
- That it's that difficult. - I just thought you'd...
Then I realized,
well, I gotta get good grades.
Well, I never took any college prep classes in high school.
- It's funny it happened to me too.
- But I just you know,
I listened to tutors.
I did everything I needed to get the grades.
And I don't know things just fell into place.
It was kind of little godsend.
- Amazing. - Big godsend I guess.
- I mean really amazing
So this Karate led to that.
- Oh, absolutely. - Absolutely.
Without a doubt.
Without the Karate I would have never...
With the exception my brother, a nurse.
He did give me encouragement to become a PT.
He said, well, they got good hours,
better hours than what you're working now.
But that's all he said. - Sure, sure.
- He really didn't care.
(laughing)
He did but.
- Well, he had some academics behind him too obviously,
so he could you know.
- Well he was less academic
than I was coming out of high school.
- But was he... - He was a C student.
- Was he a nurse already at that point.
- Yeah, he was registered. - Okay.
- So I knew if he could do it,
I could do it. - Right.
- So there's another little boost.
- Amazing how life that works quite often for me too.
Like I'd see other like,
well, they can do it. - Right.
- I can do it. - Yeah.
- And now people are looking at us and go.
Well, those two can do it, - Yeah.
- I can get into physical therapy school.
- So if we can get a YouTube channel,
anybody can get a YouTube channel, go on.
So the big question after all that.
you know and at that point.
- After 15 minutes, why did you quit now?
- Yeah, why did I quit this wonderful activity?
- Yeah - Very simple.
From the title,
I had to go through all that, blah, blah, blah.
And what happened was,
I graduated from PT school.
And this all happened within a year.
- Sure.
- I got a job, I got married,
and my daughter came along. - Sure.
- And if you wanna do Karate,
you have to go to scheduled classes after work.
I just did not you know.
- It's a fairly bit intensive time commitment.
- Right. - Is that Brad?
What would you say at a minimum per week?
- Well, you should go at least three times a week.
You can go two times a week and maybe maintain.
- And that's how long a time then each time.
I mean, what are the... - About a hour.
- Hour you said now.
- But then you talk to your friends afterwards.
And there's a social part.
It just did not fit.
I needed time with my family.
I needed time at work. - Yep.
- The priorities change. - Right.
So absolutely.
But I've had people like as a matter of fact,
a doctor who helped me get into PT school
just through encouragement.
He and his two children actually were in Karate
and I was their instructors.
He also gave me a lot of encouragement for PT school.
Just another little thing that.
- And encouragement is great.
But I'm telling you, you did the work, so.
(clapping) - yeah.
- I give you applause. - So yeah, that's why I quit.
And it's always with me.
And I think I might even do an introductory class here.
We'll see how the feedback is.
- Well, I think that I mean,
you still it's amazing the muscle memory you have,
and even I know you always complain about your kicks.
But your kicks are way higher than mine.
(laughing)
- I'm afraid I'll pull a hamstring now.
- Alright, alright.
- So very good, that answers the question.
- Interesting story, thanks for sharing.
- So you better believe it.
Enjoy. - Take care.
- And if you're gonna join Karate,
make sure you check out those schools.
You'll love the instructors,
and it'll come right back at you.
- There we go.
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